What a difference 30-some years make...

[free7694]

...or not.

Jimmy Carter:
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Ronald Reagan:
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[89Hen]

Wow, I hadn't seen Obama's presser yet. WAFJ. NOW you want to work with both parties? NOW you want people to put aside partisan politics? What a douche.

[SuperHornet]

WAFJ.

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[89Hen]

WAFJ.

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What A F'in Joke

[Cap'n Cat]

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What A F'in Joke

The joke is all the time Obama and Democrats have spent and will spend correcting Reagan's Reign of Error.

[89Hen]

The joke is all the time Obama and Democrats have spent and will spend correcting Reagan's Reign of Error.

Yeah, zero.

[Cap'n Cat]

The joke is all the time Obama and Democrats have spent and will spend correcting Reagan's Reign of Error.

Yeah, zero.

Get your blueblood nose outta the Mass hymnals and start reading something other than the Limbaugh Letter for once, friend. You're embarrassing yourself with your ign'ance.

[89Hen]

Get your blueblood nose outta the Mass hymnals and start reading something other than the Limbaugh Letter for once, friend. You're embarrassing yourself with your ign'ance.

At least you're regaining some of your swagger you lost on Tuesday. It's still misdirected and wrong, but at least you have it.

[Cap'n Cat]

Get your blueblood nose outta the Mass hymnals and start reading something other than the Limbaugh Letter for once, friend. You're embarrassing yourself with your ign'ance.

At least you're regaining some of your swagger you lost on Tuesday. It's still misdirected and wrong, but at least you have it.

No, really, start reading. The fog clears after a number of years and history is recorded more accurately to reveal the truth.

[89Hen]

No, really, start reading. The fog clears after a number of years and history is recorded more accurately to reveal the truth.

You missed the point. Read it again.

[Cap'n Cat]

No, really, start reading. The fog clears after a number of years and history is recorded more accurately to reveal the truth.

You missed the point. Read it again.

Sorry, you're missing the point, Brother Hen.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

At least you're regaining some of your swagger you lost on Tuesday. It's still misdirected and wrong, but at least you have it.

No, really, start reading. The fog clears after a number of years and history is recorded more accurately to reveal the truth.

You realize how familiar that sounds to what a lot of the Bush people said right?

Like I've said for all my years on the boards. There are basically two teams and somehow people feel like they have to choose one team or the other and support it and fight it out even when their team isn't doing right by them. Nothing has changed Cap'n and that's a cold hard fact that we all have to come to grips with.

[Cap'n Cat]

No, really, start reading. The fog clears after a number of years and history is recorded more accurately to reveal the truth.

You realize how familiar that sounds to what a lot of the Bush people said right?

Like I've said for all my years on the boards. There are basically two teams and somehow people feel like they have to choose one team or the other and support it and fight it out even when their team isn't doing right by them. Nothing has changed Cap'n and that's a cold hard fact that we all have to come to grips with.

So, what are you saying, T?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

You realize how familiar that sounds to what a lot of the Bush people said right?

Like I've said for all my years on the boards. There are basically two teams and somehow people feel like they have to choose one team or the other and support it and fight it out even when their team isn't doing right by them. Nothing has changed Cap'n and that's a cold hard fact that we all have to come to grips with.

So, what are you saying, T?

Nothing, as usual.

[Cap'n Cat]

So, what are you saying, T?

Nothing, as usual.

Sorry, don't understand. Been on these boards for years just like you guys. I understand back and forth. Nobody wins. It's theatre and it's comedy and we're all brothers in the end.

[89Hen]

I understand back and forth. Nobody wins. It's theatre and it's comedy and we're all brothers in the end.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Nothing, as usual.

Sorry, don't understand. Been on these boards for years just like you guys. I understand back and forth. Nobody wins. It's theatre and it's comedy and we're all brothers in the end.

True enough.

[CitadelGrad]

Nothing, as usual.

Sorry, don't understand. Been on these boards for years just like you guys. I understand back and forth. Nobody wins. It's theatre and it's comedy and we're all brothers in the end.

If you're my brother, then I guess that old Hollies song is bullshit.

/He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

[JoltinJoe]

What A F'in Joke

The joke is all the time Obama and Democrats have spent and will spend correcting Reagan's Reign of Error.

Can't wait for the return of the Soviet Union.

[Cap'n Cat]

Sorry, don't understand. Been on these boards for years just like you guys. I understand back and forth. Nobody wins. It's theatre and it's comedy and we're all brothers in the end.

If you're my brother, then I guess that old Hollies song is bullshit.

/He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

It's glandular!!!!!!

[Cap'n Cat]

The joke is all the time Obama and Democrats have spent and will spend correcting Reagan's Reign of Error.

Can't wait for the return of the Soviet Union.

Reagan had little to do with that, Joe. Read up on it, please. Historians credit Gorbachev and Bush1 and even Margaret Thatcher more than they do Reagan for the fall. Just take the time to read up on that myth.

[JoltinJoe]

Can't wait for the return of the Soviet Union.

Reagan had little to do with that, Joe. Read up on it, please. Historians credit Gorbachev and Bush1 and even Margaret Thatcher more than they do Reagan for the fall. Just take the time to read up on that myth.

Reagan. And say it .... Pope John Paul II.

[Cap'n Cat]

Reagan had little to do with that, Joe. Read up on it, please. Historians credit Gorbachev and Bush1 and even Margaret Thatcher more than they do Reagan for the fall. Just take the time to read up on that myth.

Reagan. And say it .... Pope John Paul II.

Comedy aside, yes, JPII has been given more credit for that than Reagan...by sane thoughtful historians, too, and not Conks.

[CitadelGrad]

If you wish to give Thatcher credit (and it is deserved), then you have to give credit to Reagan. Thatcher and Reagan closely coordinated development and implementation of policy toward the Soviet Union. Still, it was only the United States that had the resources to make those policies successful. Britain couldn't possibly have done it by itself.

[Cap'n Cat]

If you wish to give Thatcher credit (and it is deserved), then you have to give credit to Reagan. Thatcher and Reagan closely coordinated development and implementation of policy toward the Soviet Union. Still, it was only the United States that had the resources to make those policies successful. Britain couldn't possibly have done it by itself.

Don't get me wrong, Grad san, Reagan gets some credit, but NOTHING like he's been handed for this by Conk revisionists and blind fellaters of his mythological legacy such as Limbaugh, Hannity, Rove and others of their sorry ilk. In fact, every single President from World War II until the Fall gets as much credit as him for containing them and forcing them to hasten their demise through constant unsustainable expense toward an unattainable goal of world dominance. Reagan is little more than an asterisk to many in the entire affair, a guy who simply benefitted from growing media technology and coverage of it. Gorbachev was in the crucible. Reagan was a yapping chihuahua outside in the yard.