Will the CAA break up by 2011?

[dbackjon]

With ODU starting football next season (and CAA play in 2010), and Georgia State starting football in 2010 (CAA play in 2011), can a 14-team league survive?

[Col Hogan]

Yes to the thread title

No to your question

[dbackjon]

Yes to the thread title

No to your question

So what is going to happen, good colonel?

[AZGrizFan]

Yes to the thread title

No to your question

So what is going to happen, good colonel?

They'll become two conferences, each with two good teams. Just like every other meaningful conference in America.

Montana/Weber
UNI/SIU
ASU/Wofford
Cal Poly/UCD
JMU/Richmond
UMass/UNH

Oh, every year, some other pretender will surface, then sink back down (EWU, ISU, Elon, UD, W&M, etc)....but the big 12 will remain.

[Col Hogan]

Yes to the thread title

No to your question

So what is going to happen, good colonel?

jon, there are so many different "proposals" floating around...but none affiliated with anybody with the power to make them happen...

If you want my opinion, we'll see a conference with the four teams (UMass, UNH, URI and Maine) to get the boot from the CAA formed...most likely with Albany...maybe Stony Brook...and the rest are pure conjecture...

The CAA will become a 10 team conference unless others bail due to the break-up...that could provide the new conference I mentioned with additional teams...

But, what do I know...I just hope someone is working it behind the scenes...I'll do some research...

[dbackjon]

What will be interesting to see what Northeastern does in this scenario:

Stay in CAA
Stay in CAA, drop football
Bolt CAA for America East.

I can see CCSU in the mix for this new conference, as well.

[danefan]

Interestingly enough or maybe just coincidence there is supposed to be a CAA football meeting the first week in January (next week) where the future of the CAA will be discussed. The interesting thing is that after some repeated pressure by Albany alumns and donors we have been promised a public statement on the future of the Albany football program by the Athletic Director. This was spurred by a thread on AGS about the future of Albany football that was responding to a "what could have been" article about this season and what could have happened had Albany had the depth of 63 rides. The "plan" is supposed to be announced the second week in January.

The timing could be purely coincidental or maybe not.

[dbackjon]

Interestingly enough or maybe just coincidence there is supposed to be a CAA football meeting the first week in January (next week) where the future of the CAA will be discussed. The interesting thing is that after some repeated pressure by Albany alumns and donors we have been promised a public statement on the future of the Albany football program by the Athletic Director. This was spurred by a thread on AGS about the future of Albany football that was responding to a "what could have been" article about this season and what could have happened had Albany had the depth of 63 rides. The "plan" is supposed to be announced the second week in January.

The timing could be purely coincidental or maybe not.

Good to hear. No reason why Albany should not be at 63. And yes, with Albany's current team, supplimented by some more skill that additional schollies would have provided, who knows what they could have done.

[Col Hogan]

Interestingly enough or maybe just coincidence there is supposed to be a CAA football meeting the first week in January (next week) where the future of the CAA will be discussed. The interesting thing is that after some repeated pressure by Albany alumns and donors we have been promised a public statement on the future of the Albany football program by the Athletic Director. This was spurred by a thread on AGS about the future of Albany football that was responding to a "what could have been" article about this season and what could have happened had Albany had the depth of 63 rides. The "plan" is supposed to be announced the second week in January.

The timing could be purely coincidental or maybe not.

Good to hear. No reason why Albany should not be at 63. And yes, with Albany's current team, supplimented by some more skill that additional schollies would have provided, who knows what they could have done.

Albany, IMHO, is an example to all those teams with no schollys or few on how to move up and be competitive...and Albany is not just competitive, they truely are becoming a force in the east...

Those, who in the past, have slammed a team for playing Albany, better get used to seeing their name regularly in polls...

Good luck, danefan...I hope this pronouncement is what you are looking for...

I for one, would welcome you guys into a new conference because I know you bring a desire to win...

[dbackjon]

Didn't Montana get slammed by certain CAA posters for scheduling Albany last year?

[Col Hogan]

Didn't Montana get slammed by certain CAA posters for scheduling Albany last year?

I don't know...not me...

[putter]

Didn't Montana get slammed by certain CAA posters for scheduling Albany last year?

Yes, along with the other cupcakes the Griz scheduled..

[dbackjon]

Didn't Montana get slammed by certain CAA posters for scheduling Albany last year?

I don't know...not me...

No, it wasn't you. But it was done...

[Col Hogan]

I don't know...not me...

No, it wasn't you. But it was done...

Then that pposter's team hasn't faced Albany...and is stupid...

[dbackjon]

What will happen to Villanova? Non CAA team as well...

[Col Hogan]

What will happen to Villanova? Non CAA team as well...

That's always an interesting question...because academically, Villanova is closer to Richmond and William and Mary than the other publics...they have a strong (albeit nasty) relationship with Delaware in football...

They could be part of the "new" conference...or a third conference might form when the CAA breaks up...involving teams from other conferences (SOCON, for example)...

I think there will be lots of movement between 2010 and 2012 in the FCS, especially along the east coast...

[wideright82]

What will happen to Villanova? Non CAA team as well...

That's always an interesting question...because academically, Villanova is closer to Richmond and William and Mary than the other publics...they have a strong (albeit nasty) relationship with Delaware in football...

They could be part of the "new" conference...or a third conference might form when the CAA breaks up...involving teams from other conferences (SOCON, for example)...

I think there will be lots of movement between 2010 and 2012 in the FCS, especially along the east coast...

All of these questions are being brought up a lot, and with the addition of 2 southern schools to the CAA, the geographical aspects of the conference are all outta whack. The unknowns are the hardest parts to answer. These 2 new teams are really a pain in the ass. I don't think Villanova goes anywhere unless it is up to FBS (ain't gonna happen). They may go to the "CAA North", but that is the farthest they go, as a Yankee, A-10, CAA football ally for the last God knows how many years, it would be tough to give em the boot IMHO. Not to mention it was an easy agreement to the CAA last year with Lacrosse being a CAA member already. Delaware will be an out of conference game even if the North/South split happened, so I don't think that rivalry is an issue for the future. I don't think it would be completely outlandish (assuming NE doesnt drop football) to see Villanova move to the North for a 7 team conference, and keep the south (- Villanova) as another 7 team conference. This could also open the doors for an addition to the north (Albany, Stoneybrook), and an addition to the South. I am just throwing ideas out there, as I obviously don't know, but that seems most logical. A 14 team conference is nothing but absurd, so unless the new comers or JMU/Delaware (with their stadium projects) are planning on moving to FBS in the next couple years, I see a "CAA North" and "CAA South, with new names, and now 2 conferences.




Edit: So i finally get done with work and get on here and you assholes are off doin god knows what with god knows who. Well go fu(k yourselves, how does THAT sound.

[Col Hogan]

That's always an interesting question...because academically, Villanova is closer to Richmond and William and Mary than the other publics...they have a strong (albeit nasty) relationship with Delaware in football...

They could be part of the "new" conference...or a third conference might form when the CAA breaks up...involving teams from other conferences (SOCON, for example)...

I think there will be lots of movement between 2010 and 2012 in the FCS, especially along the east coast...

All of these questions are being brought up a lot, and with the addition of 2 southern schools to the CAA, the geographical aspects of the conference are all outta whack. The unknowns are the hardest parts to answer. These 2 new teams are really a pain in the ass. I don't think Villanova goes anywhere unless it is up to FBS (ain't gonna happen). They may go to the "CAA North", but that is the farthest they go, as a Yankee, A-10, CAA football ally for the last God knows how many years, it would be tough to give em the boot IMHO. Not to mention it was an easy agreement to the CAA last year with Lacrosse being a CAA member already. Delaware will be an out of conference game even if the North/South split happened, so I don't think that rivalry is an issue for the future. I don't think it would be completely outlandish (assuming NE doesnt drop football) to see Villanova move to the North for a 7 team conference, and keep the south (- Villanova) as another 7 team conference. This could also open the doors for an addition to the north (Albany, Stoneybrook), and an addition to the South. I am just throwing ideas out there, as I obviously don't know, but that seems most logical. A 14 team conference is nothing but absurd, so unless the new comers or JMU/Delaware (with their stadium projects) are planning on moving to FBS in the next couple years, I see a "CAA North" and "CAA South, with new names, and now 2 conferences.




Edit: So i finally get done with work and get on here and you assholes are off doin god knows what with god knows who. Well go fu(k yourselves, how does THAT sound.

Patientence, grasshopper...it comes in waves around here...

Quality does not just happen...one must post...think...then post again...

Good thoughts on the future...I hadn't thought about two seperate, but similarly named conferences (CAA-North and CAA-South)...could use the same overhead management of the CAA, but remain seperate in scheduling, etc...

[wideright82]

All of these questions are being brought up a lot, and with the addition of 2 southern schools to the CAA, the geographical aspects of the conference are all outta whack. The unknowns are the hardest parts to answer. These 2 new teams are really a pain in the ass. I don't think Villanova goes anywhere unless it is up to FBS (ain't gonna happen). They may go to the "CAA North", but that is the farthest they go, as a Yankee, A-10, CAA football ally for the last God knows how many years, it would be tough to give em the boot IMHO. Not to mention it was an easy agreement to the CAA last year with Lacrosse being a CAA member already. Delaware will be an out of conference game even if the North/South split happened, so I don't think that rivalry is an issue for the future. I don't think it would be completely outlandish (assuming NE doesnt drop football) to see Villanova move to the North for a 7 team conference, and keep the south (- Villanova) as another 7 team conference. This could also open the doors for an addition to the north (Albany, Stoneybrook), and an addition to the South. I am just throwing ideas out there, as I obviously don't know, but that seems most logical. A 14 team conference is nothing but absurd, so unless the new comers or JMU/Delaware (with their stadium projects) are planning on moving to FBS in the next couple years, I see a "CAA North" and "CAA South, with new names, and now 2 conferences.




Edit: So i finally get done with work and get on here and you assholes are off doin god knows what with god knows who. Well go fu(k yourselves, how does THAT sound.

Patientence, grasshopper...it comes in waves around here...

Quality does not just happen...one must post...think...then post again...

Good thoughts on the future...I hadn't thought about two seperate, but similarly named conferences (CAA-North and CAA-South)...could use the same overhead management of the CAA, but remain seperate in scheduling, etc...

You are wise sensei.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

How do you think that would affect the auto bids if they were not two stand alone conferences. I think it would be a good idea monetarily to have there be one headquarters for a CAAS, CAAN type of a deal but that seems like it could be opening up a real can of worms if one Conference starts to perceive a favoritism by the main office or something with regards to playoffs and representation in the field. How would they handle the auto and how would they push another through for the other side quickly? Man there really are a lot of questions to ponder on this whole thing.

[dbackjon]

They would need to structure it so there would be 6 teams playing together for the two years prior, to be eligible for both sides to have auto-bid...

[Col Hogan]

How do you think that would affect the auto bids if they were not two stand alone conferences. I think it would be a good idea monetarily to have there be one headquarters for a CAAS, CAAN type of a deal but that seems like it could be opening up a real can of worms if one Conference starts to perceive a favoritism by the main office or something with regards to playoffs and representation in the field. How would they handle the auto and how would they push another through for the other side quickly? Man there really are a lot of questions to ponder on this whole thing.

Agreed...each conference would have to be a stand-alone when it comes to auto-bids, etc...the Management overhead would simply provide just that...

A lot of big-cities with two newspapers have a similar arrangement...work with me here...

The newsrooms compete, but the production/sales are done by a management overhead company...

The CAA could do the promotion (and let me tell you, CAA is fantastic, especailly compared to what the A-10 did for football), the organization...and anything else that can be corporately done...but anything having to do with competition would have to be firewalled seperate...

[SUUTbird]

Well why not just make everything simple and do this. The Big South Conference and the Northeast Conference are going to start getting autobids into the playoffs correct? So why not split the football only schools in the CAA into those conferences? Like add URI and UMASS into the Big South and put UNH and Maine into the Northeast? Geographically that wouldnt be to bad.

[Appaholic]

What will happen to Villanova? Non CAA team as well...

That's always an interesting question...because academically, Villanova is closer to Richmond and William and Mary than the other publics...they have a strong (albeit nasty) relationship with Delaware in football...

They could be part of the "new" conference...or a third conference might form when the CAA breaks up...involving teams from other conferences (SOCON, for example)...

I think there will be lots of movement between 2010 and 2012 in the FCS, especially along the east coast...

We'll give you citadel.....and western....

[wideright82]

Well why not just make everything simple and do this. The Big South Conference and the Northeast Conference are going to start getting autobids into the playoffs correct? So why not split the football only schools in the CAA into those conferences? Like add URI and UMASS into the Big South and put UNH and Maine into the Northeast? Geographically that wouldnt be to bad.

did u mean "simple" or simple.