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weberwildcat wrote:
BigSkyBears wrote:
I don't see Weber finishing that high. Not after all you've lost.

Other than the past 2 seasons my confidence in the 2010 team is of course having Higgins back and hoping he has a better year than last year. He most likely will break all Nichols records. Most importantly though, Weber's Offensive Line.

The consistently top notch Oline will keep us contending. Mac's best quality is recruiting Oline. Under Mac in his 5 yrs at WSU we've had 4 Oline go to the NFL, 3 drafted. This year we should have another possible draftee in JC Oram. Our Oline will be one of the best in the Big Sky.
No question WSU has quality coaching, so that will definitely be a plus for you guys this year.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
weberwildcat wrote:

Other than the past 2 seasons my confidence in the 2010 team is of course having Higgins back and hoping he has a better year than last year. He most likely will break all Nichols records.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Maybe the interceptions record. :lol:
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kemajic wrote:EWU has neither an established QB nor a strong defense. They will not beat Montana. Second in the BSC will be a total tossup among MSU, EWU, Weber and NAU. There is nothing unusual about this coming year. SacSt, PSU, ISU and UNC will still be out of it.
Griz have questions, too, mainly revolving around a new coaching staff. Interesting that the schedule makers put the UM/EWU game so early in the season. It is quite possible the outcome could be different if it were to be played later in the year. Also, a lot of people (myself included) are intrigued with Hilliard coming back to a Hornet team that clearly overachieved last year. If the coaches there can figure out how to play him without disrupting the success they generated without him last year, they won't be the typical Sac State pushover this year.
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JALMOND wrote:
kemajic wrote:EWU has neither an established QB nor a strong defense. They will not beat Montana. Second in the BSC will be a total tossup among MSU, EWU, Weber and NAU. There is nothing unusual about this coming year. SacSt, PSU, ISU and UNC will still be out of it.
Griz have questions, too, mainly revolving around a new coaching staff. Interesting that the schedule makers put the UM/EWU game so early in the season. It is quite possible the outcome could be different if it were to be played later in the year. Also, a lot of people (myself included) are intrigued with Hilliard coming back to a Hornet team that clearly overachieved last year. If the coaches there can figure out how to play him without disrupting the success they generated without him last year, they won't be the typical Sac State pushover this year.
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JALMOND wrote: Griz have questions, too, mainly revolving around a new coaching staff. Interesting that the schedule makers put the UM/EWU game so early in the season. It is quite possible the outcome could be different if it were to be played later in the year. Also, a lot of people (myself included) are intrigued with Hilliard coming back to a Hornet team that clearly overachieved last year. If the coaches there can figure out how to play him without disrupting the success they generated without him last year, they won't be the typical Sac State pushover this year.
Since when is beating the bottom tier BSC teams overachieving? The NAU win was an upset, but the annual NAU collapse had to start with someone, it just happened to be the Hornets. How would adding a power back to the arsenal be "disrupting" last year's success? I think the only question mark on the offensive side of the ball is how soon will the OL mesh and get going. We lost 3 starters to graduation but did add a Hofstra transfer to fill one of the voids. Some of the underclassmen will have to step in and make some noise. It will be an interesting year. :nod:
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JALMOND wrote:
kemajic wrote:EWU has neither an established QB nor a strong defense. They will not beat Montana. Second in the BSC will be a total tossup among MSU, EWU, Weber and NAU. There is nothing unusual about this coming year. SacSt, PSU, ISU and UNC will still be out of it.
Griz have questions, too, mainly revolving around a new coaching staff.
The questions revolving around the new Griz coaching staff are how much better they will be, both offensively and defensively. Two seasoned senior QBs, Chase Reynolds; there is no anxiety in Missoula. Next year, when we have no established QB (like EWU this year) is of more concern.
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kemajic wrote:
JALMOND wrote:
Griz have questions, too, mainly revolving around a new coaching staff.
The questions revolving around the new Griz coaching staff are how much better they will be, both offensively and defensively. Two seasoned senior QBs, Chase Reynolds; there is no anxiety in Missoula. Next year, when we have no established QB (like EWU this year) is of more concern.
:roll:

The question regarding our new QB is how much better he will be than Nichols, a little or a lot. A beefier seasoned O-line, Taiwan Jones and the return of Zach Johnson; there is no anxiety in Cheney.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
kemajic wrote: The questions revolving around the new Griz coaching staff are how much better they will be, both offensively and defensively. Two seasoned senior QBs, Chase Reynolds; there is no anxiety in Missoula. Next year, when we have no established QB (like EWU this year) is of more concern.
:roll:

The question regarding our new QB is how much better he will be than Nichols, a little or a lot. A beefier seasoned O-line, Taiwan Jones and the return of Zach Johnson; there is no anxiety in Cheney.
I know you're an ubber-fan, but the guy hasn't taken a snap for the Eagles. Might you just wait to make that assumption?
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
kemajic wrote: The questions revolving around the new Griz coaching staff are how much better they will be, both offensively and defensively. Two seasoned senior QBs, Chase Reynolds; there is no anxiety in Missoula. Next year, when we have no established QB (like EWU this year) is of more concern.
:roll:

The question regarding our new QB is how much better he will be than Nichols, a little or a lot. A beefier seasoned O-line, Taiwan Jones and the return of Zach Johnson; there is no anxiety in Cheney.
There is never anxiety in Cheny



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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
kemajic wrote: The questions revolving around the new Griz coaching staff are how much better they will be, both offensively and defensively. Two seasoned senior QBs, Chase Reynolds; there is no anxiety in Missoula. Next year, when we have no established QB (like EWU this year) is of more concern.
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there is no anxiety in Cheney.
Nor defense....
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BigSkyBears wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :roll:

The question regarding our new QB is how much better he will be than Nichols, a little or a lot. A beefier seasoned O-line, Taiwan Jones and the return of Zach Johnson; there is no anxiety in Cheney.
I know you're an ubber-fan, but the guy hasn't taken a snap for the Eagles. Might you just wait to make that assumption?
Obviously my tongue-in-cheek response to kemajic went right over your head. That's exactly the point I was making to his comment that the Griz are only going to be that much better offensively and defensively under Pfloofy, without ever having called a single play as HC and under the "new" scheme. Try to keep up buddy. ;)
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kemajic wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :roll:

there is no anxiety in Cheney.
Nor defense....
Just the leading candidate for the Buchanan, two years removed from a winner of the Buchanan. :coffee:
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Silenoz wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :roll:

The question regarding our new QB is how much better he will be than Nichols, a little or a lot. A beefier seasoned O-line, Taiwan Jones and the return of Zach Johnson; there is no anxiety in Cheney.
There is never anxiety in Cheny



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But thank god we have English classes. :thumb:
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BigSkyBears wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :roll:

The question regarding our new QB is how much better he will be than Nichols, a little or a lot. A beefier seasoned O-line, Taiwan Jones and the return of Zach Johnson; there is no anxiety in Cheney.
I know you're an ubber-fan, but the guy hasn't taken a snap for the Eagles. Might you just wait to make that assumption?
Speaking of QB any idea who is going to get the nod at UNC? Who are leading candidates? :?:
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
BigSkyBears wrote:
I know you're an ubber-fan, but the guy hasn't taken a snap for the Eagles. Might you just wait to make that assumption?
Obviously my tongue-in-cheek response to kemajic went right over your head. That's exactly the point I was making to his comment that the Griz are only going to be that much better offensively and defensively under Pfloofy, without ever having called a single play as HC and under the "new" scheme. Try to keep up buddy. ;)
I understood you cheekiness SE. :thumb:

I like to take these opportunities when you say something false though to let you know a factoid. Pflu was the assistant HC from 1991-1994 and he has called years worth of plays in that capacity. Now you can split the hairs if you want and say he wasn't the HC but another factoid for you is that on game days Don Read let his assistant HC and the other coaches do their jobs without interference. I had quite a few friends that played during the Read era and to a man they all said that Don Read basically stood back and let his coaches do their assigned jobs.

Pflu is a lot more seasoned at the position than some of you are giving him credit for. That's cool though. :thumb:
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SDHornet wrote:
JALMOND wrote: Griz have questions, too, mainly revolving around a new coaching staff. Interesting that the schedule makers put the UM/EWU game so early in the season. It is quite possible the outcome could be different if it were to be played later in the year. Also, a lot of people (myself included) are intrigued with Hilliard coming back to a Hornet team that clearly overachieved last year. If the coaches there can figure out how to play him without disrupting the success they generated without him last year, they won't be the typical Sac State pushover this year.
Since when is beating the bottom tier BSC teams overachieving? The NAU win was an upset, but the annual NAU collapse had to start with someone, it just happened to be the Hornets. How would adding a power back to the arsenal be "disrupting" last year's success? I think the only question mark on the offensive side of the ball is how soon will the OL mesh and get going. We lost 3 starters to graduation but did add a Hofstra transfer to fill one of the voids. Some of the underclassmen will have to step in and make some noise. It will be an interesting year. :nod:
Maybe a poor choice of words on my part. Still, history has not been too kind in recent years for the Hornets in the Big Sky, and no one could have objectively predicted the success the Hornets had last year after Hilliard went down. They won the games they should last year and the NAU game was a bonus. The return of Hilliard could mean perhaps the bar is set a little higher in Sacramento this year (and rightly so).
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SDHornet wrote:
BigSkyBears wrote:
I know you're an ubber-fan, but the guy hasn't taken a snap for the Eagles. Might you just wait to make that assumption?
Speaking of QB any idea who is going to get the nod at UNC? Who are leading candidates? :?:
Probably between Dylan Orms and Matt Bacca. Orms is the only one with game experience. I'm a bit concerned about that position coming in to the season.
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BigSkyBears wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :roll:

The question regarding our new QB is how much better he will be than Nichols, a little or a lot. A beefier seasoned O-line, Taiwan Jones and the return of Zach Johnson; there is no anxiety in Cheney.
I know you're an ubber-fan, but the guy hasn't taken a snap for the Eagles. Might you just wait to make that assumption?
I'd jump on this, but for the most part, Scream was right last year on Taipai Jones. Just like a sheep, you look past the fluff and there is some meat there. I doubt he can go 2 for 2, but because of last year, I won't join the Scream-bashing this year. :D
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JALMOND wrote: Maybe a poor choice of words on my part. Still, history has not been too kind in recent years for the Hornets in the Big Sky, and no one could have objectively predicted the success the Hornets had last year after Hilliard went down. They won the games they should last year and the NAU game was a bonus. The return of Hilliard could mean perhaps the bar is set a little higher in Sacramento this year (and rightly so).
Actually J a few of us were predicting an uptick for them...including yourself. :lol:

I went looking for my post where I said they seemed to be putting things together and I thought they would climb into the top 4 last year in the conference. I couldn't find it but I did find the one where Grizza mentioned that I was touting them as a team to watch.

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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Obviously my tongue-in-cheek response to kemajic went right over your head. That's exactly the point I was making to his comment that the Griz are only going to be that much better offensively and defensively under Pfloofy, without ever having called a single play as HC and under the "new" scheme. Try to keep up buddy. ;)
I understood you cheekiness SE. :thumb:

I like to take these opportunities when you say something false though to let you know a factoid. Pflu was the assistant HC from 1991-1994 and he has called years worth of plays in that capacity. Now you can split the hairs if you want and say he wasn't the HC but another factoid for you is that on game days Don Read let his assistant HC and the other coaches do their jobs without interference. I had quite a few friends that played during the Read era and to a man they all said that Don Read basically stood back and let his coaches do their assigned jobs.

Pflu is a lot more seasoned at the position than some of you are giving him credit for. That's cool though. :thumb:
Likewise if you want to split hairs, BLM has taken plenty of snaps and competed in a higher level of competition than he will in the BSC. I've watched him play this spring, and he looked every bit as good as Nichols. Granted there's no hitting QBs in springball so there's no real pressure, but objectively, I don't think there will be much of a dropoff in offensive production at QB with BLM. He's solid. We've also got a good history of coaching up QBs here at EWU, so sufficed to say, I'm not worried.

We can sit here all day clenzing, but what really matters will happen on the field. Two more months baby! :D
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I'm seeing the potential for Sac to finish with a 0, 1, or 2 in the loss column. If it's a 1, it's the Griz.
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JALMOND wrote:
BigSkyBears wrote:
I know you're an ubber-fan, but the guy hasn't taken a snap for the Eagles. Might you just wait to make that assumption?
I'd jump on this, but for the most part, Scream was right last year on Taipai Jones. Just like a sheep, you look past the fluff and there is some meat there. I doubt he can go 2 for 2, but because of last year, I won't join the Scream-bashing this year. :D
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SuperHornet wrote:I'm seeing the potential for Sac to finish with a 0, 1, or 2 in the loss column. If it's a 1, it's the Griz.
I'm glad you see through the rose-colored glasses of potential. Way to keep positive SH! :lol:
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: I like to take these opportunities when you say something false though to let you know a factoid. Pflu was the assistant HC from 1991-1994 and he has called years worth of plays in that capacity. Now you can split the hairs if you want and say he wasn't the HC but another factoid for you is that on game days Don Read let his assistant HC and the other coaches do their jobs without interference. I had quite a few friends that played during the Read era and to a man they all said that Don Read basically stood back and let his coaches do their assigned jobs.

Pflu is a lot more seasoned at the position than some of you are giving him credit for. That's cool though. :thumb:
So your saying that he does have experience calling plays


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cats2506 wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: I like to take these opportunities when you say something false though to let you know a factoid. Pflu was the assistant HC from 1991-1994 and he has called years worth of plays in that capacity. Now you can split the hairs if you want and say he wasn't the HC but another factoid for you is that on game days Don Read let his assistant HC and the other coaches do their jobs without interference. I had quite a few friends that played during the Read era and to a man they all said that Don Read basically stood back and let his coaches do their assigned jobs.

Pflu is a lot more seasoned at the position than some of you are giving him credit for. That's cool though. :thumb:
So your saying that he does have experience calling plays


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