A Few Questions For Weber State Fans...

[Grizo406]

How confident were you before you played Eastern Washington? I'm sure you thought, as did everyone else, that you were going to win, but it didn't happen. Do you have the same level of confidence going into Washington/Grizzly that you had before you played the Eagles?

[SUUTbird]

Not a weber state fan...but i think this is very much what happened to your montana grizzlies. After losing to Weber State the first time it was kind of a wake up call for your team. I think the loss to EWU did the same for the cats. I do agree Montana has the advantage at home. But dont get to cocky.

[Wildcat Ryan]

I admit, I believed Weber would go in their and walk all over EWU, but Weber, I believe came out overconfident, and it does help not to turn the ball over 4 times. But turnovers are part of the game. Before each turnover, Weber State was easily moving the ball down the field on the Eagles, and Weber did score 19 straight on EWU, take the turnovers away, and Weber wins 40 something to like 21. But that was then and this is now, Im not even concerned about that anymore. After Weber lost I didn't have any doubts, I saw at the game, that regardless of the turnovers, Weber was able to move the ball easily. So I knew it was just a bad day from our sophomore QB. At least it wasnt against Cal Poly

I was nervous when I learned that Weber had to play Cal Poly in the first round, but was upset that just about everyone counted Weber out, because of Cal Poly's offense, what no one said was how was Cal Poly gonna be able to Stop Weber State's offense, Weber State outscored the FCS's top scoring offense in Cal Poly. Weber was able to score at will.

I do not think playing at home will favor UM all that much, especially considering that Weber has dominated all its FCS opponents on the road this year ( WSU 35 - Sac St 27, WSU 35 - Mont St 12, WSU 42 - NAU 14, WSU 59 - ISU 27, and WSU 49 - CAl Poly 35, It could have easily been a 21 point game but Weber fumbled after a catch at the 5 yard line of Cal Poly). So seeing as its the road the whole way for Weber, and how they perform on the road, I say let them stay on the road.

Weber has played tough the last 3 times they visited the Griz, they may have lost them, but in those 3 games combined Montana only outscored Weber 54 to 36, 12-7, 24-19, and 18-10. And in those years, Weber lacked an offense, now that they have an offense, I am confident that Weber can go in there and win by 21 or more points, but I believe that if Higgins has another day like he had against EWU, then Montana will win, but Montana will have to play better defense, cause if they replicate the last game where they didnt get any pressure on Higgins, Higgins will tear them apart, again, and UM has to be able to stop Trevyn Smith, and nobody has been able to do that yet. Montana is 7th in the Big Sky in rush defense.

Chase Reynolds for Montana has definetly been the work-horse of that offense in thier last 3 games, Bergquist hasnt been performing well as of late, only 112 vs ISU, 156 vs MSU, and only 177 vs TSU, IN Higgin's last 3 outings, he had 408 vs Cal Poly, 312 vs EWU, and 360 vs ISU. That is a big task for Montana's defense. I think if Weber shuts down Reynolds, they will win, because UM will be forced to throw the ball, and Weber has done an exceptional job at stopping the pass. Weber is #1 In the Big Sky in pass defense, and Montana is 8th in the Big Sky in Passing Offense

Im even more confident than I was when Weber played EWU, that Weber will win this weekend, but if they dont, Go Montana and represent the Sky well

[Mvemjsunpx]

I admit, I believed Weber would go in their and walk all over EWU, but Weber, I believe came out overconfident, and it does help not to turn the ball over 4 times. But turnovers are part of the game. Before each turnover, Weber State was easily moving the ball down the field on the Eagles, and Weber did score 19 straight on EWU, take the turnovers away, and Weber wins 40 something to like 21. But that was then and this is now, Im not even concerned about that anymore. After Weber lost I didn't have any doubts, I saw at the game, that regardless of the turnovers, Weber was able to move the ball easily. So I knew it was just a bad day from our sophomore QB. At least it wasnt against Cal Poly

I was nervous when I learned that Weber had to play Cal Poly in the first round, but was upset that just about everyone counted Weber out, because of Cal Poly's offense, what no one said was how was Cal Poly gonna be able to Stop Weber State's offense, Weber State outscored the FCS's top scoring offense in Cal Poly. Weber was able to score at will.

I do not think playing at home will favor UM all that much, especially considering that Weber has dominated all its FCS opponents on the road this year ( WSU 35 - Sac St 27, WSU 35 - Mont St 12, WSU 42 - NAU 14, WSU 59 - ISU 27, and WSU 49 - CAl Poly 35, It could have easily been a 21 point game but Weber fumbled after a catch at the 5 yard line of Cal Poly). So seeing as its the road the whole way for Weber, and how they perform on the road, I say let them stay on the road.

Weber has played tough the last 3 times they visited the Griz, they may have lost them, but in those 3 games combined Montana only outscored Weber 54 to 36, 12-7, 24-19, and 18-10. And in those years, Weber lacked an offense, now that they have an offense, I am confident that Weber can go in there and win by 21 or more points, but I believe that if Higgins has another day like he had against EWU, then Montana will win, but Montana will have to play better defense, cause if they replicate the last game where they didnt get any pressure on Higgins, Higgins will tear them apart, again, and UM has to be able to stop Trevyn Smith, and nobody has been able to do that yet. Montana is 7th in the Big Sky in rush defense.

Chase Reynolds for Montana has definetly been the work-horse of that offense in thier last 3 games, Bergquist hasnt been performing well as of late, only 112 vs ISU, 156 vs MSU, and only 177 vs TSU, IN Higgin's last 3 outings, he had 408 vs Cal Poly, 312 vs EWU, and 360 vs ISU. That is a big task for Montana's defense. I think if Weber shuts down Reynolds, they will win, because UM will be forced to throw the ball, and Weber has done an exceptional job at stopping the pass. Weber is #1 In the Big Sky in pass defense, and Montana is 8th in the Big Sky in Passing Offense

Im even more confident than I was when Weber played EWU, that Weber will win this weekend, but if they dont, Go Montana and represent the Sky well

I think you're forgetting what Montana's defense has done since the Weber loss. In the last 8 games, the Griz are allowing just 9.75 ppg & the starters have given up no more than 13 in any of those contests. Even if Trumaine Johnson remains out, the Griz still have a way better secondary than Cal Poly, so I don't think Higgins can torch Montana like he did the Mustangs on Saturday.

Also, you're wrong that Weber is 1st. in pass defense. Montana leads the Big Sky in pass defense while Weber narrowly leads in passing efficiency defense. The Griz are also 7th. in passing offense, not 8th., & they are 2nd. in passing efficiency (behind Weber, of course). Weber has a good shot if they shut down Reynolds, but that would be difficult to do since Reynolds has 6 straight 100 yard games and the Wildcats have other weapons to worry about, as well.

Weber won the first meeting (& the Cal Poly game) because of turnovers. Weber would like something like that again, but it won't be easy because Montana is +15 in turnover margin (committing just 7) since the Weber loss. If the Wildcats can't force a lot of Griz mistakes, they will fall for the 11th. straight time in Missoula.

[weberwildcat]

How confident were you before you played Eastern Washington? I'm sure you thought, as did everyone else, that you were going to win, but it didn't happen. Do you have the same level of confidence going into Washington/Grizzly that you had before you played the Eagles?

personally i was worried about the ewu game given the bye week. then i was more worried for cal poly. so yes i am more confident about this game than ewu game.

we need to continue discussing who has peaked and when! LOL

[Cap'n Cat]

How confident were you before you played Eastern Washington? I'm sure you thought, as did everyone else, that you were going to win, but it didn't happen. Do you have the same level of confidence going into Washington/Grizzly that you had before you played the Eagles?

What a little turd!

[Wildcat Ryan]

No disrespect towards you Mvemjsunpx, but Montana hasnt played anyone since the Weber game who has an offense that even comes close to that of Weber's. Reynolds is a very good running back, but I believe Weber can shut him down and force UM to throw the ball, an area which UM hasnt been performing in well lately, Montana is going to need more than just a running game to beat Weber.

Cal Poly was forced to start passing the ball when they got down by 14 points, and look what happened, You cant beat Weber with the run alone. Especially considering that Weber has the best QB and RB and WR in the Big Sky, the question is,

Who does Montana key on?

They only reason I would think Montana has a chance, is because they are at home. Montana has talent, but no where near the talent Weber has.

[Wildcat Ryan]

And Mvemjsunpx,

Turnovers=DEFENSE
Weber's Defence forced those TO's

Turnovers are part of the game, Thats why Weber lost to EWU, But to assume that Montana would have won the first time if they wouldnt have turned the ball over is false, because Montana's defense couldnt stop Weber's offense, Trevyn Smith ran for 160 yards on a Montana defense that previously only allowed 80 yards a game.

Yes turnovers hurt UM, but only 2 of thier 4 TO's led to Weber State points.
It was Montana's defense who failed to stop Weber's offense, and in the meantime, Weber's defense started shutting down UM's offense, so for Montana fans to say Weber won only because of turnovers, is undermining Weber State's offensive ability, and only trying to make your defense look better. If you cant play defense, you are going to lose regardless of turnovers

[Mvemjsunpx]

No disrespect towards you Mvemjsunpx, but Montana hasnt played anyone since the Weber game who has an offense that even comes close to that of Weber's. Reynolds is a very good running back, but I believe Weber can shut him down and force UM to throw the ball, an area which UM hasnt been performing in well lately, Montana is going to need more than just a running game to beat Weber.

What about Texas State? Their offense had equal or better numbers than Weber's.

Cal Poly was forced to start passing the ball when they got down by 14 points, and look what happened, You cant beat Weber with the run alone. Especially considering that Weber has the best QB and RB and WR in the Big Sky, the question is.

Cal Poly was an option team, though, & not one skilled at dropback passing. Montana isn't Cal Poly, & doesn't have the same weaknesses. Who said UM was going to beat Weber with the run alone? Montana can pass pretty well, in case you'd forgotten.

Oh, & one minor quibble: Tim Toone isn't the best receiver in the Big Sky, Tony Washington of Sac State is.

They only reason I would think Montana has a chance, is because they are at home. Montana has talent, but no where near the talent Weber has.

You're joking, right? To say Montana has nowhere near the talent of Weber just shows you have no clue what you are talking about. Your team isn't a collection of immortal gods, so stop treating them as such.

Turnovers are part of the game, Thats why Weber lost to EWU, But to assume that Montana would have won the first time if they wouldnt have turned the ball over is false, because Montana's defense couldnt stop Weber's offense, Trevyn Smith ran for 160 yards on a Montana defense that previously only allowed 80 yards a game.

I think that's a fairly safe assumption. The Griz led 14-3 before the turnovers started. The Griz obviously weren't the best team then, but I believe they are now and I believe they'll win a tough game Saturday. Montana is used to these playoff situations while the Wildcats are not. I also don't think the Griz will make the stupid mistakes they did the first time; they're a much better team now.

[AZGrizFan]

Montana has talent, but no where near the talent Weber has.

Wow. Just.....WOW.....


That's quite a statement.

Montana scores --- ON AVERAGE --- 2.7 points per game less than Weber. Montana gives up --- ON AVERAGE --- 5.6 points per game LESS than Weber. That's with (now) NINE common opponents. In the past 5 games, while opponents ave keyed on Mariani and Ferriter, Reynolds has gashed the defenses for almost 800 yards. Montana's rushing offense is the #1 rated offense in the BSC. Weber's vaunted rushing offense is 5th---over a 40 yard/game difference. Montana's rush DEFENSE is 5th, Weber's is 7th. Offensively, Weber producs a grand total of about 55 yards more offense, but gives up about 40 yards a game more.

Again, in the first meeting, statistically we were dead even---same TOP, same # of 1st downs, total yardage within a margin of error....the ONLY two stats that came into play were 7 sacks and 4 turnovers. We had 18 turnovers all season, and 9 were in a two game span with you and Central Washington.

To imply that Montana's talent level is "nowhere near the talent Weber has" smacks of extreme overconfidence.

I can't WAIT for Saturday to get here.

[SUUTbird]

Alright people there are a few things that both weber state and montana fans are right and wrong on some parts i believe. In reference to the turnovers lost the game. I will have to disagree. Weber State started slow and then their offense picked up and montanas defense could not stop them. The stats prove that. They did hurt but not why they lost. Poor play calling and bad effort on montana's part is what killed them. Second of all Montana Does have the talent the WEber State does, Cole Berquist is a phenominal QB in my opinion, Chase Reynolds is a rising star and marc mariani is a threat whenever he gets the ball. The key of this game is if Montanas D can keep up with Webers O

[Wildcat Ryan]

Alright people there are a few things that both weber state and montana fans are right and wrong on some parts i believe. In reference to the turnovers lost the game. I will have to disagree. Weber State started slow and then their offense picked up and montanas defense could not stop them. The stats prove that. They did hurt but not why they lost. Poor play calling and bad effort on montana's part is what killed them. Second of all Montana Does have the talent the WEber State does, Cole Berquist is a phenominal QB in my opinion, Chase Reynolds is a rising star and marc mariani is a threat whenever he gets the ball. The key of this game is if Montanas D can keep up with Webers O

I dont believe they can, they couldnt the first time, they wont be able to do it this time.

[Wildcat Ryan]

No disrespect towards you Mvemjsunpx, but Montana hasnt played anyone since the Weber game who has an offense that even comes close to that of Weber's. Reynolds is a very good running back, but I believe Weber can shut him down and force UM to throw the ball, an area which UM hasnt been performing in well lately, Montana is going to need more than just a running game to beat Weber.

Cal Poly was forced to start passing the ball when they got down by 14 points, and look what happened, You cant beat Weber with the run alone. Especially considering that Weber has the best QB and RB and WR in the Big Sky, the question is,

Who does Montana key on?

They only reason I would think Montana has a chance, is because they are at home. Montana has talent, but no where near the talent Weber has.

I apologize for not being specific, What I meant was offensive talent, Montana is indeed the more talented defensive team, but I believe Weber State has a more talented offense. Once again sorry for not being specific.

[mtgrizfankb]

Alright people there are a few things that both weber state and montana fans are right and wrong on some parts i believe. In reference to the turnovers lost the game. I will have to disagree. Weber State started slow and then their offense picked up and montanas defense could not stop them. The stats prove that. They did hurt but not why they lost. Poor play calling and bad effort on montana's part is what killed them. Second of all Montana Does have the talent the WEber State does, Cole Berquist is a phenominal QB in my opinion, Chase Reynolds is a rising star and marc mariani is a threat whenever he gets the ball. The key of this game is if Montanas D can keep up with Webers O

I dont believe they can, they couldnt the first time, they wont be able to do it this time.

There turning game of the year, to start really playing was E.washington. It is a total diff. D now....They have been tackling, getting to the ball and if they cant make the tackle, hold the man til help comes.

Not saying we will stop Weber cause it cant happen. SLOW them DOWN??? maybe i sure hope we can cause i think we are a ton better now. And to put the weber held chase to 30 yards thing to rest......HE WAS NOT OUR MAIN RB THEN!! He was number 2 or 3. SO in that case...since he has hit stride i think weber states seventh ranked BSC run D will get ran all over

[native]

.... And to put the weber held chase to 30 yards thing to rest......HE WAS NOT OUR MAIN RB THEN!! He was number 2 or 3. SO in that case...since he has hit stride i think weber states seventh ranked BSC run D will get ran all over

Let's see, Chase Reynolds had more carries than all the other Montana running backs combined in the Weber State game, but he was not the main RB?

OK, boss, whatever you say.

Uh... who, then, WAS the main running back?!???

Montana
Rushing No Gain Loss Net TD Lg Avg
--------------------------------------------
Rob Schulte 3 32 0 32 0 18 10.7
Chase Reynolds 13 40 10 30 1 10 2.3
Andrew Schmidt 2 14 0 14 0 13 7.0
Cole Bergquist 16 48 36 12 1 17 0.8
Tyler Palmer 1 9 0 9 0 9 9.0
Andrew Selle 1 9 0 9 0 9 9.0
Ken Wood 1 5 0 5 0 5 5.0
Brooks-Fletcher 1 4 0 4 0 4 4.0
TEAM 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
Kevin Klaboe 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
Totals... 40 161 46 115 2 18 2.9

reference: Big Sky Conference web site

[native]

...since he [Chase reynolds] has hit stride i think weber states seventh ranked BSC run D will get ran all over

Seventh? MONTANA's rushing defense is ranked seventh in the BSC. Weber's is ranked fifth.

Here are the Big Sky Conference defensive rankings:

SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Montana............. 8 12 12 0 1 8 0 110 13.8
2. Weber State......... 8 21 19 1 0 7 2 172 21.5
3. Eastern Washington.. 8 21 17 0 0 13 1 184 23.0
4. Montana State....... 8 29 23 2 0 2 0 207 25.9
5. Northern Colorado... 8 26 25 0 1 9 1 212 26.5
6. Northern Arizona.... 8 28 24 2 0 7 1 219 27.4
7. Sacramento State.... 8 33 24 0 0 9 2 253 31.6
8. Portland State...... 8 34 30 1 0 7 0 257 32.1
9. Idaho State......... 8 40 32 3 0 10 4 316 39.5

PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Montana............. 8 251 124 12 49.4 1451 5.8 8 181.4
2. Weber State......... 8 285 147 13 51.6 1824 6.4 10 228.0
3. Portland State...... 8 268 160 8 59.7 1964 7.3 8 245.5
4. Montana State....... 8 297 185 14 62.3 1998 6.7 13 249.8
5. Northern Colorado... 8 234 148 9 63.2 2114 9.0 13 264.2
6. Idaho State......... 8 240 144 7 60.0 2123 8.8 17 265.4
7. Northern Arizona.... 8 308 167 12 54.2 2344 7.6 16 293.0
8. Eastern Washington.. 8 335 206 10 61.5 2529 7.5 15 316.1
9. Sacramento State.... 8 282 167 8 59.2 2541 9.0 18 317.6

RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
----------------------------------------------------------
1. Montana State....... 8 252 576 2.3 11 72.0
2. Northern Arizona.... 8 245 597 2.4 10 74.6
3. Eastern Washington.. 8 268 695 2.6 6 86.9
4. Sacramento State.... 8 246 843 3.4 13 105.4
5. Weber State......... 8 270 949 3.5 9 118.6
6. Northern Colorado... 8 290 1044 3.6 10 130.5
7. Montana............. 8 246 1066 4.3 4 133.2
8. Portland State...... 8 342 1521 4.4 22 190.1
9. Idaho State......... 8 302 1605 5.3 20 200.6

TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Montana............. 8 1066 1451 497 2517 5.1 12 314.6
2. Montana State....... 8 576 1998 549 2574 4.7 24 321.8
3. Weber State......... 8 949 1824 555 2773 5.0 19 346.6
4. Northern Arizona.... 8 597 2344 553 2941 5.3 26 367.6
5. Northern Colorado... 8 1044 2114 524 3158 6.0 23 394.8
6. Eastern Washington.. 8 695 2529 603 3224 5.3 21 403.0
7. Sacramento State.... 8 843 2541 528 3384 6.4 31 423.0
8. Portland State...... 8 1521 1964 610 3485 5.7 30 435.6
9. Idaho State......... 8 1605 2123 542 3728 6.9 37 466.0

reference: Big Sky Conference web site

[Mvemjsunpx]

Seventh? MONTANA's rushing defense is ranked seventh in the BSC. Weber's is ranked fifth.

Here are the Big Sky Conference defensive rankings:

SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Montana............. 8 12 12 0 1 8 0 110 13.8
2. Weber State......... 8 21 19 1 0 7 2 172 21.5
3. Eastern Washington.. 8 21 17 0 0 13 1 184 23.0
4. Montana State....... 8 29 23 2 0 2 0 207 25.9
5. Northern Colorado... 8 26 25 0 1 9 1 212 26.5
6. Northern Arizona.... 8 28 24 2 0 7 1 219 27.4
7. Sacramento State.... 8 33 24 0 0 9 2 253 31.6
8. Portland State...... 8 34 30 1 0 7 0 257 32.1
9. Idaho State......... 8 40 32 3 0 10 4 316 39.5

PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Montana............. 8 251 124 12 49.4 1451 5.8 8 181.4
2. Weber State......... 8 285 147 13 51.6 1824 6.4 10 228.0
3. Portland State...... 8 268 160 8 59.7 1964 7.3 8 245.5
4. Montana State....... 8 297 185 14 62.3 1998 6.7 13 249.8
5. Northern Colorado... 8 234 148 9 63.2 2114 9.0 13 264.2
6. Idaho State......... 8 240 144 7 60.0 2123 8.8 17 265.4
7. Northern Arizona.... 8 308 167 12 54.2 2344 7.6 16 293.0
8. Eastern Washington.. 8 335 206 10 61.5 2529 7.5 15 316.1
9. Sacramento State.... 8 282 167 8 59.2 2541 9.0 18 317.6

RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
----------------------------------------------------------
1. Montana State....... 8 252 576 2.3 11 72.0
2. Northern Arizona.... 8 245 597 2.4 10 74.6
3. Eastern Washington.. 8 268 695 2.6 6 86.9
4. Sacramento State.... 8 246 843 3.4 13 105.4
5. Weber State......... 8 270 949 3.5 9 118.6
6. Northern Colorado... 8 290 1044 3.6 10 130.5
7. Montana............. 8 246 1066 4.3 4 133.2
8. Portland State...... 8 342 1521 4.4 22 190.1
9. Idaho State......... 8 302 1605 5.3 20 200.6

TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. Montana............. 8 1066 1451 497 2517 5.1 12 314.6
2. Montana State....... 8 576 1998 549 2574 4.7 24 321.8
3. Weber State......... 8 949 1824 555 2773 5.0 19 346.6
4. Northern Arizona.... 8 597 2344 553 2941 5.3 26 367.6
5. Northern Colorado... 8 1044 2114 524 3158 6.0 23 394.8
6. Eastern Washington.. 8 695 2529 603 3224 5.3 21 403.0
7. Sacramento State.... 8 843 2541 528 3384 6.4 31 423.0
8. Portland State...... 8 1521 1964 610 3485 5.7 30 435.6
9. Idaho State......... 8 1605 2123 542 3728 6.9 37 466.0

reference: Big Sky Conference web site

You only posted the conference game stats. Weber is seventh in all games.


RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
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1. Northern Arizona.... 11 307 658 2.1 12 59.8
2. Montana State....... 12 406 1066 2.6 21 88.8
3. Eastern Washington.. 11 369 1028 2.8 13 93.5
4. Sacramento State.... 12 367 1167 3.2 17 97.2
5. Montana............. 13 395 1511 3.8 8 116.2
6. Northern Colorado... 11 393 1455 3.7 17 132.3
7. Weber State......... 13 455 1849 4.1 17 142.2
8. Portland State...... 11 466 2162 4.6 29 196.5
9. Idaho State......... 12 464 2784 6.0 35 232.0



Another interesting run defense comparison…

Cal Poly vs. Montana - 42 carries, 173 yards, 4.1 ypc (CP's lowest total of the season)
Cal Poly vs. Weber St. - 52 carries, 363 yards, 7.0 ypc

[native]

You only posted the conference game stats. Weber is seventh in all games.

RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
----------------------------------------------------------
1. Northern Arizona.... 11 307 658 2.1 12 59.8
2. Montana State....... 12 406 1066 2.6 21 88.8
3. Eastern Washington.. 11 369 1028 2.8 13 93.5
4. Sacramento State.... 12 367 1167 3.2 17 97.2
5. Montana............. 13 395 1511 3.8 8 116.2
6. Northern Colorado... 11 393 1455 3.7 17 132.3
7. Weber State......... 13 455 1849 4.1 17 142.2
8. Portland State...... 11 466 2162 4.6 29 196.5
9. Idaho State......... 12 464 2784 6.0 35 232.0

Another interesting run defense comparison…

Cal Poly vs. Montana - 42 carries, 173 yards, 4.1 ypc (CP's lowest total of the season)
Cal Poly vs. Weber St. - 52 carries, 363 yards, 7.0 ypc

Correct. Conference-only stats are a more meaningful comparisons between Montana and Weber because they are all common opponents, as you correctly imply by adding the Cal Poly stats.

What is the value of adding Utah and Hawaii to the mix? Very little.

By the way, Montana does clearly have the edge in run defense. No doubt.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Correct. Conference-only stats are a more meaningful comparisons between Montana and Weber because they are all common opponents, as you correctly imply by adding the Cal Poly stats.

What is the value of adding Utah and Hawaii to the mix? Very little.

By the way, Montana does clearly have the edge in run defense. No doubt.

I don't think adding Utah & Hawai'i to the numbers are bad uses. Hawai'i was hardly stellar this year & the FBS games are balanced by UM-Western & Dixie State anyway. The more games there are to average, the more accurate the stats generally are as long as you don't use it as the end all & be all.

[BlackFalkin]

I do not think playing at home will favor UM all that much

Gotta disagree, one thing u gotta give to the Montana Teddy bears is they have a very nice stadium. 24k people everytime ive played there, theres a bigass jumbotron, and next to it a big scoreboard that might have been the old replay screen, then theres four screens in all four corners on the playing field level. those fvckin fans are LOUD, i gotta stand up for montana here bc saying that they dont have a home field advantage there is insane. I dare you to sit in that stadium and wear a weber state jersey. They will kill you

[AZGrizFan]

I do not think playing at home will favor UM all that much

Gotta disagree, one thing u gotta give to the Montana Teddy bears is they have a very nice stadium. 24k people everytime ive played there, theres a bigass jumbotron, and next to it a big scoreboard that might have been the old replay screen, then theres four screens in all four corners on the playing field level. those fvckin fans are LOUD, i gotta stand up for montana here bc saying that they dont have a home field advantage there is insane. I dare you to sit in that stadium and wear a weber state jersey. They will kill you

Only if he's sitting near the student section. ANYWHERE else in the stadium, and he may not have to buy a beer all day.

[BlackFalkin]

NOPE, not my experience....that student section is on the home side, i got tickets for 3 of my best friends and a couple breezies to that game ON THE VISITORS SIDE, about the 20 yard line, and they were wearing all eastern shit and they said they almost got into a fight with a couple of fans and that they kept talking shit. but when we pulled ahead, then BEAT montana and the game was almost over they had to shut the hell up.

[grizzaholic]

NOPE, not my experience....that student section is on the home side, i got tickets for 3 of my best friends and a couple breezies to that game ON THE VISITORS SIDE, about the 20 yard line, and they were wearing all eastern shit and they said they almost got into a fight with a couple of fans and that they kept talking shit. but when we pulled ahead, then BEAT montana and the game was almost over they had to shut the hell up.

The only time I have ever heard of anybody getting into fights in the stadium was Griz/Bobcat games.

[AZGrizFan]

NOPE, not my experience....that student section is on the home side, i got tickets for 3 of my best friends and a couple breezies to that game ON THE VISITORS SIDE, about the 20 yard line, and they were wearing all eastern shit and they said they almost got into a fight with a couple of fans and that they kept talking shit. but when we pulled ahead, then BEAT montana and the game was almost over they had to shut the hell up.

Well, if your friends have the "gift of gab" like you do, and converse with total strangers using the same language, then they probably DESERVED to get their asses kicked. I have NEVER seen a fan who's being respectful of the Griz get any form of beatdown. If they come in and start talkin' shit, then yeah, they're gonna have to buy their own beer.

[BlackFalkin]

Well, i dont disagree with that. my original point is the teddy bears do have some loyal fans, bc they fill up the stadium and half of easterns for the Govenors cup. i think thats also evident bc of the large amount of teddy bear fans on this site. BUT DOES MONTANA HAVE LOTS OF FANS BC THEYRE CONSISTANLY GOOD? Or are the fans genuwine and would be loyal even in a drought with no big sky champioships, no playoffs????? i dooooont knoooow.