JMU Bridgeforth Stadium construction webcam

[T-Dog]

Give me a break about that.
1987' 1st round #7 JMU @ #13 Marshall. Marshall won and went all the way to the NC game. JMU back then was never going to be able to outbid Marshall.

1991' 1st round JMU @ #4 seed UD. JMU won, hosted Samfords in the quarterfinals, lost 24-21, so must have put in a decent bid.

1994' JMU hosted 1st round win over Troy State. Lost @ #2 seed Marshall in OT in the quarterfinals. So JMU must have put in a good bid that yr.

1995' 1st round lost @ #1 seed ASU, so don't know what kind of bid JMU put in that year.

1999' 1st round lost @ Troy State. Don't know what size bid JMU put in, but Troy State announced the next yr they were moving up, so they probably had a big bid.

Teams were seeded 1-16 in these years.

2004' 1st round JMU won @ Lehigh. Yes, apparently JMU put in a shitty bid. The quarterfinals and semis it didn't matter when JMU won @ #2 seeded Furman and #4 seeded W&M.

Yeah, crappy bid.

2006' 1st round JMU lost @ #4 seed YSU. JMU AD claimed JMU put in a substantial bid, but it didn't matter as JMU was matched up with a seeded YSU.

2007' JMU lost @ ASU. Again JMU AD claimed a substantial bid was made, but as we all know, no one is going to be able to outbid ASU with the possible exception of Montana.

08' JMU was the #1 seed so it didn't matter.

The 300-mile rule screwed you in 06 and 07 the same way it screwed SCSU this past year, not a crappy bid.

My point was that you were claiming attendance was directly responsible for who was the home teams. While it helps, it isn't attendance numbers but bids and geographical proximity that determines home teams. JMU could have the highest bid in all FCS and it wouldn't matter if they weren't seeded and App, YSU or Liberty were.

[BDKJMU]

Like I said, come 2011 for at least the next 4-5 years after, if JMU and ASU are paired up, both as non seeds, JMU will still be on the road. Only team east of the Mississippi that JMU definitely won't be able to outbid, not when ASU avg almost 26k regular season last yr.

Even within conference, though, you wonder if JMU would be able to outbid UD or ODU. JMU's new stadium is only going to be a hair larger than both (JMU's 24.5k versus UD's 22k or ODU's 20k) and both the latter are likely to make incremental additions in the near future (UD's supposed to detail additions to the current stadium this Fall and if ODU keeps the incredible pace of season tix sales then they'll do the same). And bidding is more than just overall attendance, it's still actual money - the reason JMU's been on the road as much as they have has at least partly been due to lowballing the bid - I mean, Lehigh outbid them in '04 somehow and Lehigh's attendance was just so-so.

1st of all, JMU only lowballed the bid in 1 year- 04' (see my previous post). It won't happen again.

Maybe. But look at UD's attendance since 98':
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome ... index.html

Its between 19 and 22k. Not like there has been much growth there, and its not like UD has a youthfull fan base. Even with some additions maybe in 5-10 years UD will get up to the mid 20sk attendance avg in a playoff year.
ODU has sure been impressive, they are topped out at 19780. Unless they make some expensive additions, they aren't going to be able to avg more than the low 20sk.

In 5 years JMU should certainly be at the low 20sk, and in a decade the mid 20s. The JMU student body and alumni base has been growing every year. JMU was less than 14k when I graduated 12 years ago. Now has 18+k students, is suppose to top out at 21k.

Like you said, bidding isn't just overall attendance its also $. JMU will be putting up substantial bids in the future. There won't be any more 2004s. And as the school and fanbase continues to grow, so will ability to put up bigger and bigger bids.

Like I said, the only school east of the Mississippi JMU definitely won't be able to outbid anytime in the near future would be ASU. UD probably till the middle of the decade, and then it will probably be a toss up. ODU it will be a toss up. But as far as UD and ODU, its likely irrelevant if the NCAA isn't going to pair up conference foes in the round of 16 as has been the case in the past. If in the quarterfinals or the semis JMU, UD, and ODU were to run into each other, 8-9 times out of 10 one of them will be a seed, and the seed (or higher seed if semis) will dictate who hosts.

[GannonFan]

Even within conference, though, you wonder if JMU would be able to outbid UD or ODU. JMU's new stadium is only going to be a hair larger than both (JMU's 24.5k versus UD's 22k or ODU's 20k) and both the latter are likely to make incremental additions in the near future (UD's supposed to detail additions to the current stadium this Fall and if ODU keeps the incredible pace of season tix sales then they'll do the same). And bidding is more than just overall attendance, it's still actual money - the reason JMU's been on the road as much as they have has at least partly been due to lowballing the bid - I mean, Lehigh outbid them in '04 somehow and Lehigh's attendance was just so-so.

1st of all, JMU only lowballed the bid in 1 year- 04' (see my previous post). It won't happen again.

Maybe. But look at UD's attendance since 98':
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaahome ... index.html

Its between 19 and 22k. Not like there has been much growth there, and its not like UD has a youthfull fan base. Even with some additions maybe in 5-10 years UD will get up to the mid 20sk attendance avg in a playoff year.
ODU has sure been impressive, they are topped out at 19780. Unless they make some expensive additions, they aren't going to be able to avg more than the low 20sk.

In 5 years JMU should certainly be at the low 20sk, and in a decade the mid 20s. The JMU student body and alumni base has been growing every year. JMU was less than 14k when I graduated 12 years ago. Now has 18+k students, is suppose to top out at 21k.

Like you said, bidding isn't just overall attendance its also $. JMU will be putting up substantial bids in the future. There won't be any more 2004s. And as the school and fanbase continues to grow, so will ability to put up bigger and bigger bids.

Like I said, the only school east of the Mississippi JMU definitely won't be able to outbid anytime in the near future would be ASU. UD probably till the middle of the decade, and then it will probably be a toss up. ODU it will be a toss up. But as far as UD and ODU, its likely irrelevant if the NCAA isn't going to pair up conference foes in the round of 16 as has been the case in the past. If in the quarterfinals or the semis JMU, UD, and ODU were to run into each other, 8-9 times out of 10 one of them will be a seed, and the seed (or higher seed if semis) will dictate who hosts.

How can you grow the attendance when the stadium doesn't change? Of course UD's attendance has not shown tons of growth - where are you going to put more people? But even with a static stadium, just look at the past 6 years versus the 5 that came before them - in the past 6 years, UD's had 23 sellouts and only 1 game that came in under 20k - in the 5 years prior to that there were 7 sellouts and 8 games with sub 20k attendance. That seems like pretty decent growth to me, even for a place that hasn't increased the size of the stadium at the same time. Considering the number of sellouts, it's not hard to project that UD could average close to 25k right now for regular season games (the NCAA stuff you linked to includes playoff data that skews the data).

As for the age of the fanbase, come on, that's just silly stuff - it's a family place - sure there are grandparents, but there are plenty of middle aged people and then kids as well - it's just a different fanbase that isn't reliant on the student body for a significant percentage of the crowd - hence why it's so stable.

[Henny]

Now that UD is staying at Delaware Stadium the new estimated capacity will be approx 30k. The question is when will it happen? Our AD said it is the "top priority" along with the athletic performance center. Now we just need to make the playoffs to bid!

JMU's tenure of having the largest stadium in the CAA will be brief.

[JMUpurplehazed]

Henny
UD can have the biggest stadium, I don't mind. I think it's great that three CAA programs will average 20K+. I know 20K is nothing compared to some programs but that is still a lot of people at a game.

[BDKJMU]

Give me a break about that.
1987' 1st round #7 JMU @ #13 Marshall. Marshall won and went all the way to the NC game. JMU back then was never going to be able to outbid Marshall.

1991' 1st round JMU @ #4 seed UD. JMU won, hosted Samfords in the quarterfinals, lost 24-21, so must have put in a decent bid.

1994' JMU hosted 1st round win over Troy State. Lost @ #2 seed Marshall in OT in the quarterfinals. So JMU must have put in a good bid that yr.

1995' 1st round lost @ #1 seed ASU, so don't know what kind of bid JMU put in that year.

1999' 1st round lost @ Troy State. Don't know what size bid JMU put in, but Troy State announced the next yr they were moving up, so they probably had a big bid.

Teams were seeded 1-16 in these years.

Wrong. They weren't seeded 1-16 all those 13 years 87'-99'. Looks like it was only 87'-88':
http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews. ... ckets.html

My point was that you were claiming attendance was directly responsible for who was the home teams. While it helps, it isn't attendance numbers but bids and geographical proximity that determines home teams. JMU could have the highest bid in all FCS and it wouldn't matter if they weren't seeded and App, YSU or Liberty were.

Granted, I should have stated that when 2 NON seeded teams are paired that attendance is one of several major factors in the bid (when I made it sound like it was the sole factor). My bad.

[T-Dog]

Teams were seeded 1-16 in these years.

Wrong. They weren't seeded 1-16 all those 13 years 87'-99'. Looks like it was only 87'-88':
http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews. ... ckets.html

My point was that you were claiming attendance was directly responsible for who was the home teams. While it helps, it isn't attendance numbers but bids and geographical proximity that determines home teams. JMU could have the highest bid in all FCS and it wouldn't matter if they weren't seeded and App, YSU or Liberty were.

Granted, I should have stated that when 2 NON seeded teams are paired that attendance is one of several major factors in the bid (when I made it sound like it was the sole factor). My bad.

They were also seeded 1-16 from 1995-2000.

[BDKJMU]

Wrong. They weren't seeded 1-16 all those 13 years 87'-99'. Looks like it was only 87'-88':
http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews. ... ckets.html



Granted, I should have stated that when 2 NON seeded teams are paired that attendance is one of several major factors in the bid (when I made it sound like it was the sole factor). My bad.

They were also seeded 1-16 from 1995-2000.

Yeah but I listed the JMU playoff teams from 87' to 99' and and whole field wasn't seeded in all of those years. Looks like it wasn't 89'-94'

[JMU DJ]

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Time Lapse from November-May

[ASUG8]

That time lapse is awesome, Joo - I wish ASU had compiled one like that for one or both sides.

[93henfan]

Very nice time lapse. It must be nice to have an athletic department that values its football fans.

[JMU DJ]

Very nice time lapse. It must be nice to have an athletic department that values its football fans.

Not my fault K.C. Keeler is Nosferatu... or whatever you guys are calling him. Take your self loathing hate back over to GoHens.

[93henfan]

Very nice time lapse. It must be nice to have an athletic department that values its football fans.

Not my fault K.C. Keeler is Nosferatu... or whatever you guys are calling him. Take your self loathing hate back over to GoHens.

Well, a lot of good it did to compliment JMU I see.

[JMU DJ]

Not my fault K.C. Keeler is Nosferatu... or whatever you guys are calling him. Take your self loathing hate back over to GoHens.

Well, a lot of good it did to compliment JMU I see.

Awwww, I'm just kidding with you 93. I was just trying to fit in with the UD posting crowd that has migrated over here.

[93henfan]

Well, a lot of good it did to compliment JMU I see.

Awwww, I'm just kidding with you 93. I was just trying to fit in with the UD posting crowd that has migrated over here.

I'm not talking to you any more. You hurt my feelings.

[JMU DJ]

Awwww, I'm just kidding with you 93. I was just trying to fit in with the UD posting crowd that has migrated over here.

I'm not talking to you any more. You hurt my feelings.

... a token of my sorrow over this ordeal:

[93henfan]

Ah! That'll brighten up anyone's day.

[89Hen]

Now that UD is staying at Delaware Stadium the new estimated capacity will be approx 30k. The question is when will it happen? Our AD said it is the "top priority" along with the athletic performance center. Now we just need to make the playoffs to bid!

JMU's tenure of having the largest stadium in the CAA will be brief.

I'm not holding my breath.

[BlackFalkin]

#1. Congrats to JMU for a great renovation plan
#2. Can someone pls tell me the phases? Looks like Phase one will be the 1 sideline, with a small corner piece maybe the full endzone section... cant tell.
thanks!

[JMU DJ]

#2. Can someone pls tell me the phases? Looks like Phase one will be the 1 sideline, with a small corner piece maybe the full endzone section... cant tell.
thanks!

They made a video for that too!

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Unless I'm mistaken, this is how it will look after Phase I

[89Hen]

Unless I'm mistaken, this is how it will look after Phase I

I thought the larger endzone was in future phases.

[JMU DJ]

Unless I'm mistaken, this is how it will look after Phase I

I thought the larger endzone was in future phases.

I know they are installing 4,200 permanent seats in the North Enzone... I don't know if that rendering is further along as I can't recall if Phase I includes "Horse Shoeing" the stadium as it is depicted in the photo above. I grabbed that photo from the JMU site with renderings for Phase I, so I'm going off the assumption that is how it will look upon completion next year.

[JMU2004]

the lower level horseshoe IS part of phase I.

Phase 2 is mirroring Phase 1

Phase 3 is putting an upper deck on the endzone.

Phases 2 and 3 are likely years away (though the contract is signed)

[BlackFalkin]

So Phase 1 is....
West sideline
West sideline deck
North endzone

and phase 2 is...
East sideline
East sideline deck

and phase 3 is...
North endzone deck.


is that correct?

[JMU2004]

So Phase 1 is....
West sideline
West sideline deck
North endzone

and phase 2 is...
East sideline
East sideline deck

and phase 3 is...
North endzone deck.


is that correct?

exactly....but phase 2 and phase 3 are far far away