2010 Governor's Cup: Montana vs. Eastern Washington

[eagle1]

Retards!

[Willie]

[eagle1]

Retards!

[EWURanger]

Willie, that is a kick ass Avatar.

It's Montana's schedule poster this year.

Very cool. If it's not too much of a trade secret, what program are you using to make most of your buttons and banners - GIMP? Just wondering, because I am starting to tool around a little and was wondering what the easiest/best program was for that type of thing.

[Willie]

I use Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop.

[EWURanger]

Cool, thanks.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Redzone twice retard! Fumbled on the goal line and kicked a field goal. Holding EWU to 315 yards is what you call a TOTAL defensive domintation! Wow!

3 pts.

Your scoring opportunity for the first one came from outside the red zone.

Nobody ever mentioned Peach didn't have a good game as he usually did so I'm not even sure where you are going with that one.

Your offense got bitch slapped in their own home and there just ain't nothing you can do about that.

Congrats on that yardage though. Too bad your team couldn't come up with anything on the goals we were defending.

3 fucking points bitch.

[eagle1]

Retards!

[AZGrizFan]

Redzone twice retard! Fumbled on the goal line and kicked a field goal. Holding EWU to 315 yards is what you call a TOTAL defensive domintation! Wow!

3 pts.

Your scoring opportunity for the first one came from outside the red zone.

Nobody ever mentioned Peach didn't have a good game as he usually did so I'm not even sure where you are going with that one.

Your offense got bitch slapped in their own home and there just ain't nothing you can do about that.

Congrats on that yardage though. Too bad your team couldn't come up with anything on the goals we were defending.

3 fucking points bitch.

Eagle1 counts moral victories. He HAS to....he's an EWU fan.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

3 pts.

Your scoring opportunity for the first one came from outside the red zone.

Nobody ever mentioned Peach didn't have a good game as he usually did so I'm not even sure where you are going with that one.

Your offense got bitch slapped in their own home and there just ain't nothing you can do about that.

Congrats on that yardage though. Too bad your team couldn't come up with anything on the goals we were defending.

3 fucking points bitch.

Eagle1 counts moral victories. He HAS to....he's an EWU fan.

Yeah no big deal. Kinda feel sorry for the poor kid. I gotta admit that once soundly beaten in the exchange his "Last great act of defiance" attempts are pretty small minded but at least he's trying to find his way.

[BlackFalkin]

This is what you guys do all day? It must really suck to live in Montana. After the UM-EWU game theres gonna be a record number of suicides in the Missoula area.

[SouthDakotaGrizzly]

Is gonna be great watching all those sad UM fans leaving the stadium with their tails tucked between their legs.

Bears don't have tails. Shows what you know .

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

This is what you guys do all day? It must really suck to live in Montana. After the UM-EWU game theres gonna be a record number of suicides in the Missoula area.

EWU fans put a whole lot more into this game than we do BF. Like it or not it is not really a rivalry game to us. It's got the same importance as our games with PSU, ISU, WSU, Sac St., UNC, or NAU. The only BSC conference game that means anything above the normal conference schedule is MSU.

You are placing your feelings of the importance of the game on us and it just ain't that way.

[Montanan]

rivalry, reality...

[BlackFalkin]

1. EWU fans put a whole lot more into this game than we do BF.
2. Like it or not it is not really a rivalry game to us.

1. The same is true for any other BSC that wants to be the best. And to be the best, YOU GOTTA BEAT THE BEST. And aside from MSU most UM fans would rather watch UM vs EWU anyway. dont kid yourself pal.

2. "Like it or not"? Dont flatter yourself guy, EWU doesnt have a rival, this is the Governor's Cup.. played EWU vs UM & EWU vs MSU.
(Unlike Griz fans, EWU doesnt try to gain importance from UM Football's success.)<--Very Important

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

1. EWU fans put a whole lot more into this game than we do BF.
2. Like it or not it is not really a rivalry game to us.

1. The same is true for any other BSC that wants to be the best. And to be the best, YOU GOTTA BEAT THE BEST. And aside from MSU most UM fans would rather watch UM vs EWU anyway. dont kid yourself pal.
2. "Like it or not"? Dont flatter yourself guy, EWU doesnt have a rival, this is the Governor's Cup.. played EWU vs UM & EWU vs MSU. Thats it..

You can say what you want about it there character, but I know for a fact that one of the team goals that makes a perennial appearance on your guys' list is to beat UM. That is not a specific team goal on the Griz list.

"And to be the best, YOU GOTTA BEAT THE BEST" I can see you guys using that one.
We are the best and the only way we could use that worn out saying is to make sure the Griz don't beat themselves.

You can call it the Gov. Cup, the game, the sand pounding tournament, or whatever else you want to call it but the fact remains the game means a lot to more to your fans than it does to ours. Would we be discouraged if we lost it? Sure we would. But it doesn't bring the depths of sorrow that you are projecting on us. That's YOU, not us.

Not trying to be a dick BF but just trying to counter any misconceptions you may have.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

1. EWU fans put a whole lot more into this game than we do BF.
2. Like it or not it is not really a rivalry game to us.

1. The same is true for any other BSC that wants to be the best. And to be the best, YOU GOTTA BEAT THE BEST. And aside from MSU most UM fans would rather watch UM vs EWU anyway. dont kid yourself pal.

2. "Like it or not"? Dont flatter yourself guy, EWU doesnt have a rival, this is the Governor's Cup.. played EWU vs UM & EWU vs MSU.
(Unlike Griz fans, EWU doesnt try to gain importance from UM Football's success.)<--Very Important

I see you added a little sumpin' there at the end. I'm not sure what it means though?

"EWU doesn't try to gain importance from UM's success?"
I think you do. You didn't start any of these threads about any of the other schools so I have an inkling that you do try to gain some notoriety on your prognostications of beating us. FWIW BF, I don't blame ya one bit.

[EWURanger]

This is what you guys do all day? It must really suck to live in Montana. After the UM-EWU game theres gonna be a record number of suicides in the Missoula area.

EWU fans put a whole lot more into this game than we do BF. Like it or not it is not really a rivalry game to us. It's got the same importance as our games with PSU, ISU, WSU, Sac St., UNC, or NAU. The only BSC conference game that means anything above the normal conference schedule is MSU.

You are placing your feelings of the importance of the game on us and it just ain't that way.

Like it or not.........ummm, ok.

You like it or not; It is a a rivalry:
1.) We play in the same Division, in the same conference.
2.) Both teams are usually in the top 25 or higher; often times in the top 10 when the game is played.
3.) Generally has larger conference championship and play-off implications than Cat-Griz. Games are also generally much closer and exciting than Cat-Griz. Agree with BF here - don't kid yourself by thinking the Brawl of the Wild has been anything resembling competitive the past few years. Not a dig at MSU here, but it's true.
4.) EWU has a higher winning percentage in WA-Griz than any other BSC team.
5.) Geographic proximity and the fact that EWU has no in-state rival means that Montana is as close to a "rival" as EWU is going to get in the BSC.

What else do you need to define a rivalry? Yes, EWU fans put more into this game than Montana fans. Of course we do. When Montana is the team to beat year in and year out and the Conference Championship goes through Missoula, why wouldn't we? I'm not saying a "W" against Montana defines a successful year, a play-off bid defines that - but beating the Griz generally goes a long way to that end.

I understand the "beneath us" attitude most Montana fans feel about EWU's program - and I am ok with that, it makes it even better when we do beat you. But it *is* a rivalry - to say that it isn't is just being completely dismissive and disrespectful of our program. I am not saying it takes the place of or even compares to Cat-Griz, but I would not want it to, either.

We may not be Montana's chief rival, but we are a "rival" nonetheless. You guys need to get off your high horses.

It must be so hard to be a fan of a team that always wins.......

[BlackFalkin]

^Good points! And Ursus, read my post again, you missed something in the last sentence.

[Silenoz]

EWU is our toughest opponent generally, anyone who says otherwise is just trying to get under your guys' skin

I'd say it's working

[EWURanger]

EWU is our toughest opponent generally, anyone who says otherwise is just trying to get under your guys' skin

I'd say it's working

Not at all. I understand the points Ursus is making, I really do. But to say the EWU game is no more a "rivalry" than ISU or UNC is being more than just a little dismissive and not really based on reality, IMO.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

EWU fans put a whole lot more into this game than we do BF. Like it or not it is not really a rivalry game to us. It's got the same importance as our games with PSU, ISU, WSU, Sac St., UNC, or NAU. The only BSC conference game that means anything above the normal conference schedule is MSU.

You are placing your feelings of the importance of the game on us and it just ain't that way.

Like it or not.........ummm, ok.

You like it or not; It is a a rivalry:
1.) We play in the same Division, in the same conference.
2.) Both teams are usually in the top 25 or higher; often times in the top 10 when the game is played.
3.) Generally has larger conference championship and play-off implications than Cat-Griz. Games are also generally much closer and exciting than Cat-Griz. Agree with BF here - don't kid yourself by thinking the Brawl of the Wild has been anything resembling competitive the past few years. Not a dig at MSU here, but it's true.
4.) EWU has a higher winning percentage in WA-Griz than any other BSC team.
5.) Geographic proximity and the fact that EWU has no in-state rival means that Montana is as close to a "rival" as EWU is going to get in the BSC.

What else do you need to define a rivalry? Yes, EWU fans put more into this game than Montana fans. Of course we do. When Montana is the team to beat year in and year out and the Conference Championship goes through Missoula, why wouldn't we? I'm not saying a "W" against Montana defines a successful year, a play-off bid defines that - but beating the Griz generally goes a long way to that end.

I understand the "beneath us" attitude most Montana fans feel about EWU's program - and I am ok with that, it makes it even better when we do beat you. But it *is* a rivalry - to say that it isn't is just being completely dismissive and disrespectful of our program. I am not saying it takes the place of or even compares to Cat-Griz, but I would not want it to, either.

We may not be Montana's chief rival, but we are a "rival" nonetheless. You guys need to get off your high horses.

It must be so hard to be a fan of a team that always wins.......

You got to the crux of what I was telling BF. I'm not saying EWU isn't a rival but they are in the group of BSC rival. The win against them or the loss against EWU would be no more crushing than any other loss. That of course depends on the point in season and if a loss to you guys would mean not winning the BSC Championship and so forth. That is not unlike it would be for any other BSC rival.

Can't argue with most of your post. It is well thought out and reasoned. I only take exception to the items of drama like the "suicide watch" and provide reasons why that thought is misguided. Of course I was using an inflammatory tone to draw this kind of a retort out of BF but you were drawn into it. Think of it as being a victim of friendly fire.

You are wrong about it being tough to be a fan of a team that wins all the time. It is actually quite easy.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

EWU is our toughest opponent generally, anyone who says otherwise is just trying to get under your guys' skin

I'd say it's working

Not at all. I understand the points Ursus is making, I really do. But to say the EWU game is no more a "rivalry" than ISU or UNC is being more than just a little dismissive and not really based on reality, IMO.

I already put some of what Sil said in my post and I was being purposely dismissive to rile BF's intellect.

Sil nailed it on the head though.

The game means a lot fella's, just fuckin' with ya.

[EWURanger]

Like it or not.........ummm, ok.

You like it or not; It is a a rivalry:
1.) We play in the same Division, in the same conference.
2.) Both teams are usually in the top 25 or higher; often times in the top 10 when the game is played.
3.) Generally has larger conference championship and play-off implications than Cat-Griz. Games are also generally much closer and exciting than Cat-Griz. Agree with BF here - don't kid yourself by thinking the Brawl of the Wild has been anything resembling competitive the past few years. Not a dig at MSU here, but it's true.
4.) EWU has a higher winning percentage in WA-Griz than any other BSC team.
5.) Geographic proximity and the fact that EWU has no in-state rival means that Montana is as close to a "rival" as EWU is going to get in the BSC.

What else do you need to define a rivalry? Yes, EWU fans put more into this game than Montana fans. Of course we do. When Montana is the team to beat year in and year out and the Conference Championship goes through Missoula, why wouldn't we? I'm not saying a "W" against Montana defines a successful year, a play-off bid defines that - but beating the Griz generally goes a long way to that end.

I understand the "beneath us" attitude most Montana fans feel about EWU's program - and I am ok with that, it makes it even better when we do beat you. But it *is* a rivalry - to say that it isn't is just being completely dismissive and disrespectful of our program. I am not saying it takes the place of or even compares to Cat-Griz, but I would not want it to, either.

We may not be Montana's chief rival, but we are a "rival" nonetheless. You guys need to get off your high horses.

It must be so hard to be a fan of a team that always wins.......

You got to the crux of what I was telling BF. I'm not saying EWU isn't a rival but they are in the group of BSC rival. The win against them or the loss against EWU would be no more crushing than any other loss. That of course depends on the point in season and if a loss to you guys would mean not winning the BSC Championship and so forth. That is not unlike it would be for any other BSC rival.

Can't argue with most of your post. It is well thought out and reasoned. I only take exception to the items of drama like the "suicide watch" and provide reasons why that thought is misguided. Of course I was using an inflammatory tone to draw this kind of a retort out of BF but you were drawn into it. Think of it as being a victim of friendly fire.

You are wrong about it being tough to be a fan of a team that wins all the time. It is actually quite easy.

Yep, I got what you're saying. But even if you took away half of the reasons I listed above, I still believe EWU-UM would be more of a natural rivalry than Sac, UNC, etc. etc - if nothing else, because of geographical proximity and the Pacific Northwest flavor of the game.

Not all of my post was directed at yours - it's more of just a general malaise I have towards some Griz fans who think Montana is already in the WAC, the Big Sky is little better than the Frontier League, and the Griz should be blowing out every BSC team by 60 points because they are just that much better. Ok, ok, maybe irrelevant to this topic.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Ranger, I definitely am not one of those guys that thinks we need to move to the WAC. Never missed a game in our stadium, watched every one that has ever been available on TV, and listened to the others. I know very well that the level of competition where we are at is high caliber.

There are some turds every year but that wouldn't change if we move on.