Roe v Wade Anniversary

[Purple For Life]

Is there anyone who really believes that? That somehow the passage through the vaginal canal begins life?

BTW, I know there are many who believe that the essence of life is passing through the vaginal canal, but that's for another thread. (see, there's levity)

And is there anyone who really believes the government has the right to invade the privacy of a woman's body? Pretty ironic that "stay out of my life" conks seem to want some sort of fetus-Gestapo running around invading abortion clinics.

[Purple For Life]

Abortion is here to stay. Women are rapidly taking over the world. look at college grad rates and you'll see the future. They don't have the problem with abortion like men do, cuz they are the ones who suffer from child bearing.

Abortion will also be relatively non existent in the future as contraception becomes more available, more convenient and more effective. Women are taking shit that causes them to have a couple periods a year. The morning after pill is a trip to the drugstore away for any chick over the age of 17.

Joltin Joke can moralize all he wants and fallaciously claim that women are all of a sudden realizing the "wisdom" of the catholics, or that life is so fucking precious, but the reality is birth control, chemistry, medicine, big pharma and demand from women are driving the concept of abortion into the past, not catholic or pro life dogma.

God bless abortion.

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

[native]

I hope CBS airs the Tebow Super Bowl pro-life ad. DB1, you're wrong, the tide is turning. I know it pains you, but you'll have to live with it.

I hope they air it too. Hen, you and Joltin Job are brainwashed cult members.

Rational America is both laughing at you and appalled by your behavior.

Shouldn't we find someone rational to make that pronouncement?!??

[Purple For Life]

Out of curiosity, what health issue does pregnancy cause? Unexplained death in women? High blood pressure?

Poverty, suffering, lost potential, disempowerment and reliance on men and government, depression, loss of education and quality of life.... 9 months of discomfort, horrendous pain of child birth thanks to your fucking god...

Those are all reasons enough for me to do it.

Let me put it this way: if I were to become pregnant, and for some reason couldn't get an abortion, I'd try to induce one myself. Failing that, suicide (or at least I would seriously consider it).

It would help immensely if doctors would take women under 30 seriously when they say they want to be permanently sterilized instead of waving them off and saying, "oh, you'll change your mind!" BULLSHIT. I'm capable of making all the other decisions in my life, who are you to tell me I can't?

Fuckers.

[SeattleGriz]

Poverty, suffering, lost potential, disempowerment and reliance on men and government, depression, loss of education and quality of life.... 9 months of discomfort, horrendous pain of child birth thanks to your fucking god...

Those are all reasons enough for me to do it.

Let me put it this way: if I were to become pregnant, and for some reason couldn't get an abortion, I'd try to induce one myself. Failing that, suicide (or at least I would seriously consider it).

You know you don't want a child and am sure you take sensible precautions to prevent a pregnancy. My biggest bitch in this whole argument is that there are plenty of lazy assholes who don't take precaution, knowing they can just get an abortion. While I understand it is up to each persons perspective as to when life begins, at least save yourself the time and the money by not getting pregnant in the first place. Not to mention the link they are starting to discover with women who abort and the increased chance of breast cancer.

My wife and I used the rhythm method for 8 years before we decided to have children and it worked perfectly. We didn't use any contraception because if she got pregnant by accident, we were ready for that. When we really wanted kids, we just had sex on the days we normally didn't. BAM! Done.

And yes, I do know the old joke about what do you call a woman who practices the rhythm method...mother.

[Purple For Life]

Those are all reasons enough for me to do it.

Let me put it this way: if I were to become pregnant, and for some reason couldn't get an abortion, I'd try to induce one myself. Failing that, suicide (or at least I would seriously consider it).

You know you don't want a child and am sure you take sensible precautions to prevent a pregnancy. My biggest bitch in this whole argument is that there are plenty of lazy assholes who don't take precaution, knowing they can just get an abortion. While I understand it is up to each persons perspective as to when life begins, at least save yourself the time and the money by not getting pregnant in the first place. Not to mention the link they are starting to discover with women who abort and the increased chance of breast cancer.

My wife and I used the rhythm method for 8 years before we decided to have children and it worked perfectly. We didn't use any contraception because if she got pregnant by accident, we were ready for that. When we really wanted kids, we just had sex on the days we normally didn't. BAM! Done.

And yes, I do know the old joke about what do you call a woman who practices the rhythm method...mother.

The problem then lies in the situation I posed above--when you've got people wanting to take steps to permanently sterilize themselves, but being poo-poohed by doctors, you've got a big fucking problem.

I'm on the Pill--take it religiously at 7 every night--but I wouldn't even hesitate a split second if for some unfathomable reason I got pregnant. No fucking way am I going to let some uterine parasite kick back and take up residence in my body.

[D1B]

Those are all reasons enough for me to do it.

Let me put it this way: if I were to become pregnant, and for some reason couldn't get an abortion, I'd try to induce one myself. Failing that, suicide (or at least I would seriously consider it).

You know you don't want a child and am sure you take sensible precautions to prevent a pregnancy. My biggest bitch in this whole argument is that there are plenty of lazy assholes who don't take precaution, knowing they can just get an abortion. While I understand it is up to each persons perspective as to when life begins, at least save yourself the time and the money by not getting pregnant in the first place. Not to mention the link they are starting to discover with women who abort and the increased chance of breast cancer.

My wife and I used the rhythm method for 8 years before we decided to have children and it worked perfectly. We didn't use any contraception because if she got pregnant by accident, we were ready for that. When we really wanted kids, we just had sex on the days we normally didn't. BAM! Done.

And yes, I do know the old joke about what do you call a woman who practices the rhythm method...mother.

Women can take precautions and still get pregnant. The only 100% effective is abstinence.

A fetus is not a person. A fetus is an invading parasite and women have the right to remove it from their ovaries. Simple.

Game, set and match - D1B (as usual )

[SeattleGriz]

No fucking way am I going to let some uterine parasite kick back and take up residence in my body.

That has got to one of the harshest, but yet, funniest things I have heard in a while.

Like I said, you know you don't want a child and you take precaution. In your case, lets just hope they come out with a more permanent solution for contraception.

By the way, have you ever thought maybe your provider is scared to death of getting sued if he does sterilize you and you come back saying he didn't counsel you enough? The way jury's are today, you whip up some fake tears, talk about how he took advantage of your naivety and how you will never ever be able to have children again. Jury's love to stick it to doctors.

[D1B]

No fucking way am I going to let some uterine parasite kick back and take up residence in my body.[/ quote]

That has got to one of the harshest, but yet, funniest things I have heard in a while.

Like I said, you know you don't want a child and you take precaution. In your case, lets just hope they come out with a more permanent solution for contraception.

By the way, have you ever thought maybe your provider is scared to death of getting sued if he does sterilize you and you come back saying he didn't counsel you enough? The way jury's are today, you whip up some fake tears, talk about how he took advantage of your naivety and how you will never ever be able to have children again. Jury's love to stick it to doctors.

You're right SG. That doctor made the right decision.

[SeattleGriz]

Women can take precautions and still get pregnant. The only 100% effective is abstinence.

A fetus is not a person. A fetus is an invading parasite and women have the right to remove it from their ovaries. Simple.

Game, set and match - D1B (as usual )

At this point, I am only addressing the lazy ones who don't use any contraception, or the withdrawal method. Some of the irresponsible don't know for 4-8 weeks, and then take a couple more to see an abortionist. Then we are right at that point of the being able to see a fully formed baby.

Just spitballin' here.

[Purple For Life]

No fucking way am I going to let some uterine parasite kick back and take up residence in my body.[/ quote]

That has got to one of the harshest, but yet, funniest things I have heard in a while.

Like I said, you know you don't want a child and you take precaution. In your case, lets just hope they come out with a more permanent solution for contraception.

By the way, have you ever thought maybe your provider is scared to death of getting sued if he does sterilize you and you come back saying he didn't counsel you enough? The way jury's are today, you whip up some fake tears, talk about how he took advantage of your naivety and how you will never ever be able to have children again. Jury's love to stick it to doctors.

Yeah. Because I'm soooooooooooooooooo going to change my mind when I called it a uterine parasite, aren't I? (and I meant it.)

Sterilization IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR CONTRACEPTION. And FFS, I'm 30. I could see where a doc might be skeptical if I was 20 or something. But by 30, I've got it figured out.

[SeattleGriz]

Yeah. Because I'm soooooooooooooooooo going to change my mind when I called it a uterine parasite, aren't I? (and I meant it.)

Hey, I have no issue with your stand and in fact applaud you for knowing exactly what you want. Just trying to point out it might not be that the doctor doesn't want to help you, he/she just knows they would be screwed if you came back and presented the scenario I did.

Why do you think doctors order the latest and greatest in technologies even when a standard test will work? They are afraid a jury will believe they didn't do everything in their power to diagnose or treat you. SUED!

[89Hen]

First off, who's invading women's bodies? (besides Grizo?)

Secondly, do you believe the government has the right to invade the privacy of my home if my kid comes to school with evidence of abuse?

Finally, let me ask you another question... Why was Scott Peterson charged and convicted of two counts of murder?

By telling her what she can and can't do with it, Hen.

Thanks for not answering the other questions. Typical pro-choice response.

[89Hen]

Murder is a moral wrong and it is illegal. It is an infringement on another person's natural right to life and therefore should be illegal.

Abortion certainly is a gray area where libertarians are concerned, because it does infringe on the right of the unborn.

Gray area?

[Ibanez]

Poverty, suffering, lost potential, disempowerment and reliance on men and government, depression, loss of education and quality of life.... 9 months of discomfort, horrendous pain of child birth thanks to your fucking god...

Those are all reasons enough for me to do it.

Let me put it this way: if I were to become pregnant, and for some reason couldn't get an abortion, I'd try to induce one myself. Failing that, suicide (or at least I would seriously consider it).

It would help immensely if doctors would take women under 30 seriously when they say they want to be permanently sterilized instead of waving them off and saying, "oh, you'll change your mind!" BULLSHIT. I'm capable of making all the other decisions in my life, who are you to tell me I can't?

Fuckers.

I don't want kids and my wife agrees, but Suicide? Are you fucking kidding me?

[89Hen]

It would help immensely if doctors would take women under 30 seriously when they say they want to be permanently sterilized instead of waving them off and saying, "oh, you'll change your mind!" BULLSHIT. I'm capable of making all the other decisions in my life, who are you to tell me I can't?

Fuckers.

Finally a good point from you.

[89Hen]

some uterine parasite

I really feel bad for you.

[Ibanez]

No fucking way am I going to let some uterine parasite kick back and take up residence in my body.

That has got to one of the harshest, but yet, funniest things I have heard in a while.

Like I said, you know you don't want a child and you take precaution. In your case, lets just hope they come out with a more permanent solution for contraception.

By the way, have you ever thought maybe your provider is scared to death of getting sued if he does sterilize you and you come back saying he didn't counsel you enough? The way jury's are today, you whip up some fake tears, talk about how he took advantage of your naivety and how you will never ever be able to have children again. Jury's love to stick it to doctors.

No, she'll tell us all about it and then I swear on her infertility, that I will print off every post of her's and supply them to the court as proof to the contrary.

Uterine Parasite? Grow the fuck up, just call it a fetus, there is no need for you to devalue life just because you don't want it. You're a fucking child.

[89Hen]

Women can take precautions and still get pregnant. The only 100% effective is abstinence.

A fetus is not a person. A fetus is an invading parasite and women have the right to remove it from their ovaries. Simple.

Game, set and match - D1B (as usual )

And in the waning days of his time on CS.com DB1 became increasing detatched with reality. Sad to see someone lose their faculties in front of everyone.

[Ibanez]

It would help immensely if doctors would take women under 30 seriously when they say they want to be permanently sterilized instead of waving them off and saying, "oh, you'll change your mind!" BULLSHIT. I'm capable of making all the other decisions in my life, who are you to tell me I can't?

Fuckers.

Finally a good point from you.

I'm glad she won't reproduce. There is less of a chance that another entitled, arrogant, rude lack of air will be brought into this world. You should go into the ghetto's and get those fuckers to stop reproducing.

[D1B]

some uterine parasite

I really feel bad for you.

Quit harrassing her you fucking asshole. Like YOU care you typical catholic dipshit.

[D1B]

Women can take precautions and still get pregnant. The only 100% effective is abstinence.

A fetus is not a person. A fetus is an invading parasite and women have the right to remove it from their ovaries. Simple.

Game, set and match - D1B (as usual )

And in the waning days of his time on CS.com DB1 became increasing detatched with reality. Sad to see someone lose their faculties in front of everyone.

Fuck you fat clown. Another catholic dipshit.

[JoltinJoe]

Finally a good point from you.

I'm glad she won't reproduce. There is less of a chance that another entitled, arrogant, rude lack of air will be brought into this world. You should go into the ghetto's and get those **** to stop reproducing.

She's entitled to her opinions. Let's not personalize our disagreements.

[JoltinJoe]

I just cannot imagine the utter horror of the prospect of a woman who, after registering her pregnancy with the state, then has her baby spontaneously aborted by god and then appearing in court in front of a fat **** tyrant moralist/catholic shithead like 89 Hen or a **** lifelong schoolyard ragdoll pussy dork like Joltin Joe, to save herself from prison.

i was way cooler than you in the schoolyard, and way too fast and smart to get cornered by some fat football player too dumb to play a position that the cheerleaders would actually date.

[JoltinJoe]

I cannot project the degree of hatred required to make those women run around in crusades against abortion. Hatred is what they certainly project, not love for the embryos, which is a piece of nonsense no one could experience, but hatred, a virulent hatred for an unnamed object...Their hatred is directed against human beings as such, against the mind, against reason, against ambition, against success, against love, against any value that brings happiness to human life. In compliance with the dishonesty that dominates today's intellectual field, they call themselves 'pro-life.'

Ayn Rand

Now you are relying on miserable and self-absorbed Ayn Rand who stands against everything you otherwise believe in?