'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
That is great, though not that surprising. The won the NC and beat a bowl elegible Temple team. Maybe these writers are seeing the light the the top FCS teams are actually pretty good.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
I didn't realize that NOVA played football. No schedule listed on their website.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
Two votes seems to me like kind of a backhanded compliment. Better than nothing, I guess, but I'd love to see what the results would be of our final four teams vs. "others receiving votes". 
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
You'd get rolled by every one of them.ASUG8 wrote:Two votes seems to me like kind of a backhanded compliment. Better than nothing, I guess, but I'd love to see what the results would be of our final four teams vs. "others receiving votes".
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
They played Temple and beat them. Temple was good for the 1st time since 1979. Did Temple get any votes? If they did Nova deserves some.

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Not many folks may get it....but that's funny...CAA Flagship wrote:I didn't realize that NOVA played football. No schedule listed on their website.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
How would they do against this ESPN list?ASUG8 wrote:Two votes seems to me like kind of a backhanded compliment. Better than nothing, I guess, but I'd love to see what the results would be of our final four teams vs. "others receiving votes".
ESPN.com's Bottom 10
Rank Team Record Comment
1. Western Kentucky 0-12 "I'm Threw Witchu": The David Elson era ended with a 24-20 loss to Arkansas State. Former Stanford assistant Willie Taggart inherits a team that has lost 20 games in a row.
2. Eastern Michigan 0-12 "Betta Days": The Eagles can only hope there are betta days ahead after Ron English's first season ended with a winless record.
3. Miami (Ohio) 1-11 "One Chance (Make It Good)": The RedHawks' best day was Halloween, when they defeated Toledo 31-24 for their only victory of 2009.
4. New Mexico 1-11 "Loosen' Control:" Lobos coach Mike Locksley keeps his job after a forgettable maiden voyage in Albuquerque.
5. Cal 8-4 "Ain't No Fun": The Bears fell down the Pac-10 bowl pecking order after failing to show up in a 42-10 loss at Washington.
6. Washington State 1-11 "2 Minute Warning": With a 3-22 record in two seasons, Cougars coach Paul Wulff needs to show much progress in 2010.
7. Rice 2-10 "Ain't Nuttin' Personal": The Owls gave up eight touchdowns and 59 points in the first half of their 73-14 loss at Houston in their finale.
8. Memphis 2-10 "Ya'll Gone Miss Me": At least the Tigers put up a fight in coach Tommy West's final game, losing 33-30 in overtime at Tulsa.
9. Maryland 2-10 "Da Boss Would Like To See You": Terrapins athletics director Debbie Yow has made it clear that 2010 will be a big season for embattled coach Ralph Friedgen.
10. New Mexico State 3-10 "Step Yo Game Up": The Aggies will be looking for better things in coach DeWayne Walker's second season.
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putter wrote: ESPN.com's Bottom 10
Rank Team Record Comment
1. Western Kentucky 0-12 "I'm Threw Witchu": The David Elson era ended with a 24-20 loss to Arkansas State. Former Stanford assistant Willie Taggart inherits a team that has lost 20 games in a row.
2. Eastern Michigan 0-12 "Betta Days": The Eagles can only hope there are betta days ahead after Ron English's first season ended with a winless record.
3. Miami (Ohio) 1-11 "One Chance (Make It Good)": The RedHawks' best day was Halloween, when they defeated Toledo 31-24 for their only victory of 2009.
4. New Mexico 1-11 "Loosen' Control:" Lobos coach Mike Locksley keeps his job after a forgettable maiden voyage in Albuquerque.
5. Cal 8-4 "Ain't No Fun": The Bears fell down the Pac-10 bowl pecking order after failing to show up in a 42-10 loss at Washington.
6. Washington State 1-11 "2 Minute Warning": With a 3-22 record in two seasons, Cougars coach Paul Wulff needs to show much progress in 2010.
7. Rice 2-10 "Ain't Nuttin' Personal": The Owls gave up eight touchdowns and 59 points in the first half of their 73-14 loss at Houston in their finale.
8. Memphis 2-10 "Ya'll Gone Miss Me": At least the Tigers put up a fight in coach Tommy West's final game, losing 33-30 in overtime at Tulsa.
9. Maryland 2-10 "Da Boss Would Like To See You": Terrapins athletics director Debbie Yow has made it clear that 2010 will be a big season for embattled coach Ralph Friedgen.
10. New Mexico State 3-10 "Step Yo Game Up": The Aggies will be looking for better things in coach DeWayne Walker's second season.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
How the F does an 8-4 Cal team make that listputter wrote:How would they do against this ESPN list?ASUG8 wrote:Two votes seems to me like kind of a backhanded compliment. Better than nothing, I guess, but I'd love to see what the results would be of our final four teams vs. "others receiving votes".
ESPN.com's Bottom 10
Rank Team Record Comment
1. Western Kentucky 0-12 "I'm Threw Witchu": The David Elson era ended with a 24-20 loss to Arkansas State. Former Stanford assistant Willie Taggart inherits a team that has lost 20 games in a row.
2. Eastern Michigan 0-12 "Betta Days": The Eagles can only hope there are betta days ahead after Ron English's first season ended with a winless record.
3. Miami (Ohio) 1-11 "One Chance (Make It Good)": The RedHawks' best day was Halloween, when they defeated Toledo 31-24 for their only victory of 2009.
4. New Mexico 1-11 "Loosen' Control:" Lobos coach Mike Locksley keeps his job after a forgettable maiden voyage in Albuquerque.
5. Cal 8-4 "Ain't No Fun": The Bears fell down the Pac-10 bowl pecking order after failing to show up in a 42-10 loss at Washington.
6. Washington State 1-11 "2 Minute Warning": With a 3-22 record in two seasons, Cougars coach Paul Wulff needs to show much progress in 2010.
7. Rice 2-10 "Ain't Nuttin' Personal": The Owls gave up eight touchdowns and 59 points in the first half of their 73-14 loss at Houston in their finale.
8. Memphis 2-10 "Ya'll Gone Miss Me": At least the Tigers put up a fight in coach Tommy West's final game, losing 33-30 in overtime at Tulsa.
9. Maryland 2-10 "Da Boss Would Like To See You": Terrapins athletics director Debbie Yow has made it clear that 2010 will be a big season for embattled coach Ralph Friedgen.
10. New Mexico State 3-10 "Step Yo Game Up": The Aggies will be looking for better things in coach DeWayne Walker's second season.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
Because every year we have to listen to people say how good they are going to be this year, and every year they end up losing 5-7 games. Most overrated program in FBS.clenz wrote:How the F does an 8-4 Cal team make that listputter wrote:
How would they do against this ESPN list?
ESPN.com's Bottom 10
Rank Team Record Comment
1. Western Kentucky 0-12 "I'm Threw Witchu": The David Elson era ended with a 24-20 loss to Arkansas State. Former Stanford assistant Willie Taggart inherits a team that has lost 20 games in a row.
2. Eastern Michigan 0-12 "Betta Days": The Eagles can only hope there are betta days ahead after Ron English's first season ended with a winless record.
3. Miami (Ohio) 1-11 "One Chance (Make It Good)": The RedHawks' best day was Halloween, when they defeated Toledo 31-24 for their only victory of 2009.
4. New Mexico 1-11 "Loosen' Control:" Lobos coach Mike Locksley keeps his job after a forgettable maiden voyage in Albuquerque.
5. Cal 8-4 "Ain't No Fun": The Bears fell down the Pac-10 bowl pecking order after failing to show up in a 42-10 loss at Washington.
6. Washington State 1-11 "2 Minute Warning": With a 3-22 record in two seasons, Cougars coach Paul Wulff needs to show much progress in 2010.
7. Rice 2-10 "Ain't Nuttin' Personal": The Owls gave up eight touchdowns and 59 points in the first half of their 73-14 loss at Houston in their finale.
8. Memphis 2-10 "Ya'll Gone Miss Me": At least the Tigers put up a fight in coach Tommy West's final game, losing 33-30 in overtime at Tulsa.
9. Maryland 2-10 "Da Boss Would Like To See You": Terrapins athletics director Debbie Yow has made it clear that 2010 will be a big season for embattled coach Ralph Friedgen.
10. New Mexico State 3-10 "Step Yo Game Up": The Aggies will be looking for better things in coach DeWayne Walker's second season.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
They went 8-4 this year. Hardly belong in the same category with 0-3 win mid-major teamsDJH wrote:Because every year we have to listen to people say how good they are going to be this year, and every year they end up losing 5-7 games. Most overrated program in FBS.clenz wrote:How the F does an 8-4 Cal team make that list
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No, that would be Notre Dame.DJH wrote:Because every year we have to listen to people say how good they are going to be this year, and every year they end up losing 5-7 games. Most overrated program in FBS.clenz wrote:How the F does an 8-4 Cal team make that list
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How about because they are in Berkley where the treehuggin', delta smelt lovin', birkenstock wearin', granola eatin', Pelosi worshipin', pineapple on pizza fixin', non shampoo and comb buyin', close to Mannyland livin', PETA patronizin', yoga practicin', euro-trash wannabe liberals are harvested.clenz wrote:How the F does an 8-4 Cal team make that list
Other than that, it really is odd that an 8-4 team from the Pac-10 would be on the list.
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I did NOT know that GATW, dback, TTBF and kyjelli lived in Berkley.....CAA Flagship wrote:How about because they are in Berkley where the treehuggin', delta smelt lovin', birkenstock wearin', granola eatin', Pelosi worshipin', pineapple on pizza fixin', non shampoo and comb buyin', close to Mannyland livin', PETA patronizin', yoga practicin', euro-trash wannabe liberals are harvested.clenz wrote:How the F does an 8-4 Cal team make that list
Other than that, it really is odd that an 8-4 team from the Pac-10 would be on the list.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
Middle Tennessee State would be the underdog against any of the FCS final four teams. So would Central Michigan. WRT the others, you are right.AZGrizFan wrote:You'd get rolled by every one of them.ASUG8 wrote:Two votes seems to me like kind of a backhanded compliment. Better than nothing, I guess, but I'd love to see what the results would be of our final four teams vs. "others receiving votes".
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i actually meant to exclude MTS from that list.Pwns wrote:Middle Tennessee State would be the underdog against any of the FCS final four teams. So would Central Michigan. WRT the others, you are right.AZGrizFan wrote:
You'd get rolled by every one of them.
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Re: 'Nova ends the year with 2 votes in the AP Poll
Because that ranking isn't meant to be taken all that seriously.clenz wrote:They went 8-4 this year. Hardly belong in the same category with 0-3 win mid-major teamsDJH wrote:
Because every year we have to listen to people say how good they are going to be this year, and every year they end up losing 5-7 games. Most overrated program in FBS.
They always mix in one decent team that played a bad game or disappointed or whatever just to make fun of them.
