Can Weber pull off 1st rd upset back2back yrs?

[EWURanger]

How do you like your crow cooked????

I'll have mine the same way you took yours after the JMU game that you were certain we didn't have a chance in last year.

Oh yeah, Weber by 7.

[kalm]

W&M has not played a team in top 25 of FCS total offense and only 2 in the top 20 and 3 in the top 50 of FCS scoring offense. The Big Sky has 4 teams ranked higher than the CAA's top scoring offense (UNH at #14). Now the same case can be made about the Big Sky's defenses, but to assume the Tribe will lock down the cats might be a little premature.

[fencer24]

The key for Weber is to keep their QB protected. When he was at Montana, he made a lot of bad choices because he seemed afraid of being hit. If W&M keep him contained and under pressure, I don't think Weber will have a very good outing.
On the other hand, if they do protect Higgins, then W&M could be having the awful day.
Right now, if I had to put money on it, I think the CAA team will bring enough pressure to make Higgins screw up. Advantage Bill and Mary.

[houndawg]

The outlook is doubtful.

Weeber will need to get rich quick because they won't have the ball as much.

[wideright82]

Well I can see my job here is done....

[wideright82]

W&M has not played a team in top 25 of FCS total offense and only 2 in the top 20 and 3 in the top 50 of FCS scoring offense. The Big Sky has 4 teams ranked higher than the CAA's top scoring offense (UNH at #14). Now the same case can be made about the Big Sky's defenses, but to assume the Tribe will lock down the cats might be a little premature.

Weber may very well put up 500 yards on Saturday, but they will be doing all of that in between the 20's. Redzone defense is where these CAA teams will get that edge. William and Mary will stop people from getting in the endzone, will Weber?

[weberwildcat]

Here's a few clips of Higgins to Toone

http://www.weberhoops.com/footballclips.htm

[weberwildcat]

W&M is lucky the game is in VA. All WSU needs is a little rain or snow and the game is ours.

[dbackjon]

That's how I'd sum up the CAA, other than UNH. They have no defense.

Have you looked at the defensive stats or are you makin a funny? EDIT: I believe you are refering to UNH hear... if so, in that case you may proceed with your weak defense argument.

Don't they teach reading comprehension at JMU?

Good defenses in the CAA EXCEPT UNH...

[wideright82]

Here's a few clips of Higgins to Toone

http://www.weberhoops.com/footballclips.htm

I thought you guys said he was on Weber State University's team? That looked like Weber High

[DukeJack]

It's going to depend on W&M's ability to get to Higgins that will likely decide this game. The Tribe lead the CAA in sacks and Higgins has looked his absolute worst this year when teams like Montana and Montana State have been able to hit him and cause turnovers.

No, no other quarterback in the CAA is that pure drop-back passer, Devlin's similar but the closest the Tribe have likely seen is Sewell from UVA or Ricky Santos a couple years ago. The CAA quarterbacks are more used as dual threats, something I have not seen in the Sky. And yes, Toone's average would place him at the top of the CAA in receiving, but for pure playmaking ability I consider it a tossup between him and Matt Szczur.

Weber's offensive line will be the key here - William & Mary is middle of the pack in passing efficiency defense and if the o-line can give Higgins time to pick out his receivers, the Tribe could be in trouble here. But I'm really struggling to think of a Big Sky team who can bring the pressure as well as Tribe, most defenses aren't anywhere near the level of the opposing offense.

Should the Tribe be able to pressure Higgins like I think they will, I see William & Mary moving on.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

It's going to depend on W&M's ability to get to Higgins that will likely decide this game. The Tribe lead the CAA in sacks and Higgins has looked his absolute worst this year when teams like Montana and Montana State have been able to hit him and cause turnovers.

No, no other quarterback in the CAA is that pure drop-back passer, Devlin's similar but the closest the Tribe have likely seen is Sewell from UVA or Ricky Santos a couple years ago. The CAA quarterbacks are more used as dual threats, something I have not seen in the Sky. And yes, Toone's average would place him at the top of the CAA in receiving, but for pure playmaking ability I consider it a tossup between him and Matt Szczur.

Weber's offensive line will be the key here - William & Mary is middle of the pack in passing efficiency defense and if the o-line can give Higgins time to pick out his receivers, the Tribe could be in trouble here. But I'm really struggling to think of a Big Sky team who can bring the pressure as well as Tribe, most defenses aren't anywhere near the level of the opposing offense.

Should the Tribe be able to pressure Higgins like I think they will, I see William & Mary moving on.

Exactly what I told Cleets on the phone last night so you may be a genius.

[DukeJack]

Exactly what I told Cleets on the phone last night so you may be a genius.

Well, that's a given, but I did say waiting a year on the poll would give me a much better ability to evaluate the teams

[AZGrizFan]

Exactly what I told Cleets on the phone last night so you may be a genius.

Having met DukeJack, having drunk with DukeJack, having broken bread with DukeJack and having spoken at length with DukeJack regarding his current course of study I can assure you that he is, in fact, a genius.

[WeberAlum02]

Here's a few clips of Higgins to Toone

http://www.weberhoops.com/footballclips.htm

I thought you guys said he was on Weber State University's team? That looked like Weber High

That would be one kick ass high school team!

[JMU DJ]

Have you looked at the defensive stats or are you makin a funny? EDIT: I believe you are refering to UNH hear... if so, in that case you may proceed with your weak defense argument.

Don't they teach reading comprehension at JMU?

Good defenses in the CAA EXCEPT UNH...

I jumped the gun Jon... thus the edit. Thought I saw a comma after UNH thus it would have read "UNH has a defense, the rest of the CAA doesn't"

Perhaps you failed to read the edit?



EDIT: I also just noticed I misspelled "Here".... cardinal sin, I've messed up and I've embarrassed my fellow Dukes.

[YoUDeeMan]

Completly agreed
Weber St has never and will never see a defense like W&M out west
Tribe by 17

Weber has already played a team with a defense as good or better than William and Mary's and laid 322 yards and 22 points on the Cowboys in our first game this season. The difference is that Wyoming's secondary is a little stronger than the Tribe's, and six of the Wyoming starters against Weber are on the 2010 NFL draft watch lists compared to only three from W&M.

Are you talking about the Wyoming efence that gave up 41 points to Texas or the one which gave up 52 to BYU? How about the one that showed up (or maybe they didn't) and surrendered 45 points to TCU?

I could go on, but the only 2 teams to score LESS than 22 points on Wyoming were Air Force (a 10-0 AF victory) and hapless New Mexico.

Good lord, if you think Wyoming has a good D then you are mistaken. W&M front 7 is much better then the Cowboys'.

[wideright82]

I thought you guys said he was on Weber State University's team? That looked like Weber High

That would be one kick ass high school team!

Maybe in Utah

[kalm]

Weber has already played a team with a defense as good or better than William and Mary's and laid 322 yards and 22 points on the Cowboys in our first game this season. The difference is that Wyoming's secondary is a little stronger than the Tribe's, and six of the Wyoming starters against Weber are on the 2010 NFL draft watch lists compared to only three from W&M.

Are you talking about the Wyoming efence that gave up 41 points to Texas or the one which gave up 52 to BYU? How about the one that showed up (or maybe they didn't) and surrendered 45 points to TCU?

I could go on, but the only 2 teams to score LESS than 22 points on Wyoming were Air Force (a 10-0 AF victory) and hapless New Mexico.

Good lord, if you think Wyoming has a good D then you are mistaken. W&M front 7 is much better then the Cowboys'.

Texas, BYU, and TCU put up those numbers on most teams they play. W&M gave up 14 points to the #118 rated offense in FBS. I'm guessing Wyoming's defenese no worse than = to W&M

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Are you talking about the Wyoming efence that gave up 41 points to Texas or the one which gave up 52 to BYU? How about the one that showed up (or maybe they didn't) and surrendered 45 points to TCU?

I could go on, but the only 2 teams to score LESS than 22 points on Wyoming were Air Force (a 10-0 AF victory) and hapless New Mexico.

Good lord, if you think Wyoming has a good D then you are mistaken. W&M front 7 is much better then the Cowboys'.

Texas, BYU, and TCU put up those numbers on most teams they play. W&M gave up 14 points to the #118 rated offense in FBS. I'm guessing Wyoming's defenese no worse than = to W&M

That seemed like such an obvious point that Clucker had to be just making fun to get a reaction. W&M would get their shit handed to them playing any of those teams he mentioned.

[native]

Texas, BYU, and TCU put up those numbers on most teams they play. W&M gave up 14 points to the #118 rated offense in FBS. I'm guessing Wyoming's defenese no worse than = to W&M

That seemed like such an obvious point that Clucker had to be just making fun to get a reaction. W&M would get their **** handed to them playing any of those teams he mentioned.

I am trying to imagine W&M (or Weber) playing Texas...

[ChickenMan]

Apparently Weber's QB doesn't handle pressure very well.. if that's the case it will be a long day for Mr Higgins as there is no doubt that the Tribe will bring a lot heat on the Weber pass offense. W&M can and will pressure the passer.. as their CAA leading 40 QB sacks indicate.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Apparently Weber's QB doesn't handle pressure very well.. if that's the case it will be a long day for Mr Higgins as there no doubt that the Tribe will bring a lot heat on the Weber pass offense. W&M can and will pressure the passer.. as their CAA leading 40 QB sacks indicate.

That is the problem and that is how W&M will win this game if that happens. You are probably gonna see them leaving Trevyn/and or Bo Bolden back there and they are fairly adept at picking up a block but they may not be able to stand up to the kind of pressure that W&M will be bringing. Look for Weber to be going to the flat a lot and trying to get Trevyn out there to catch a couple and of course a lot of screens as well.

[WeberAlum02]

The pressure W&M could put on Higgins may be important, but Weber throws a lot of quick passes (quick slants, screens, flats). I am more concerned about W&M's ability to stop the run (best in the nation). Montana was able to stop Weber's running game, and it led to Higgins throwing 4 picks. And that game was the only game Weber wasn't in this year (lost 10-31). If Weber can't establish some run attack and must rely completely on the pass, it could get ugly.

[DukeJack]

Exactly what I told Cleets on the phone last night so you may be a genius.

Having met DukeJack, having drunk with DukeJack, having broken bread with DukeJack and having spoken at length with DukeJack regarding his current course of study I can assure you that he is, in fact, a genius.

Thank you, Z, for the kinds words, drinks, and bread broken