Goodbye Delaware, UMass, FAMU

[Screamin_Eagle174]

If we hadn't of lost, we would have almost won a National Title

That's all I read.

Obviously not very well. Par for the course out of a JMU grad.

[JMU DJ]

That's all I read.

Obviously not very well. Par for the course out of a JMU grad.

Ahhhh, he put the coffee guy after his post. You've learned a lot from Z on how to make your point hit home. You should really check credentials of your own school before you try to make an academic argument.

Besides, we're talkin' football here. You can make all the arguments you want for the EWU in the playoffs, but so can many other people about their schools and it just turns into a transitive theory story.

[AZGrizFan]

Obviously not very well. Par for the course out of a JMU grad.

Ahhhh, he put the coffee guy after his post. You've learned a lot from Z on how to make your point hit home. You should really check credentials of your own school before you try to make an academic argument.

Besides, we're talkin' football here. You can make all the arguments you want for the EWU in the playoffs, but so can many other people about their schools and it just turns into a transitive theory story.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Obviously not very well. Par for the course out of a JMU grad.

Ahhhh, he put the coffee guy after his post. You've learned a lot from Z on how to make your point hit home. You should really check credentials of your own school before you try to make an academic argument.

Besides, we're talkin' football here. You can make all the arguments you want for the EWU in the playoffs, but so can many other people about their schools and it just turns into a transitive theory story.

And you can deflect or ignore the BSC and EWU's legitimacy, but it doesn't take away from the fact that EWU has the 4th best playoff record (5-6) among teams that have never won a title, and has dispatched a top 2 seed in 2 of the last 3 times we've been to the dance.

The top 3 (based on a scan of the the brackets from the last 31 years:

UNI: 18-14
McNeese: 11-13
Stephen F. Austin: 6-4

[JMU DJ]

Ahhhh, he put the coffee guy after his post. You've learned a lot from Z on how to make your point hit home. You should really check credentials of your own school before you try to make an academic argument.

Besides, we're talkin' football here. You can make all the arguments you want for the EWU in the playoffs, but so can many other people about their schools and it just turns into a transitive theory story.

And you can deflect or ignore the BSC and EWU's legitimacy, but it doesn't take away from the fact that EWU has the second best playoff record among teams that have never won a title, and has dispatched a top 2 seed in 2 of the last 3 times we've been to the dance.

There was no deflection there homie, it was a counterpoint. Also, I've never discounted the Big Sky or even called them the "Big Fluff." So you can take that argument out. Lastly, if you are celebrating a 5-6 record in the playoffs (according to your stats in another thread) as being the best to never to win and beating a couple of good teams but losing in the end... more power to you.

You've got a good conference, I don't think anyone on this board is doubting that. But until one of you guys can unseat Montana, you're not going to convince a lot of the "haters" out there. And back to what I believe was CluckU's original target, co-conference champs with Montana don't count as "unseating." When's the last time another BSC school made it out of the second round besides Montana (I'll give you a hint, it was over a decade ago and it's another bullet you can add to your playoff celebration list)? Until then, what people will continue to see is a consistently good Montana team that is on the precipice of winning another National title each year and then a couple of other teams here and there who are good but can't get it done in the end.

[kalm]

Or Montana really is that good and the bsc al's have compiled a solid playoff record while mostly playing on the road and often at seeds

[JMU DJ]

Or Montana really is that good and the bsc al's have compiled a solid playoff record while mostly playing on the road and often at seeds

That's what I said... Montana IS that good. Also, playing on the road @ seeds hasn't seemed to affect other teams from winning the National Championship. Richmond played @ #2 App St and @ #3 UNI before beating #4 Montana. JMU also won the NC playing all of their games on the road. So you may have compiled a good first round record...

[kalm]

Or Montana really is that good and the bsc al's have compiled a solid playoff record while mostly playing on the road and often at seeds

That's what I said... Montana IS that good. Also, playing on the road @ seeds hasn't seemed to affect other teams from winning the National Championship. Richmond played @ #2 App St and @ #3 UNI before beating #4 Montana. JMU also won the NC playing all of their games on the road. So you may have compiled a good first round record...

Richmond only had to play 3 playoff games?

In all seriousness, good point. And if memory serves didn't JMU do the same thing?

But you have to admit the number of teams and home games the CAA enjoys skews the comparison just a bit.

[JMU DJ]

Richmond only had to play 3 playoff games?

In all seriousness, good point. And if memory serves didn't JMU do the same thing?

But you have to admit the number of teams and home games the CAA enjoys skews the comparison just a bit.

I only mentioned those three games because UR played their first game at home, which is why I also brought up JMU as they played them all on the road.

....Maybe it skews the comparison, or maybe the CAA is just that good

[kalm]

Richmond only had to play 3 playoff games?

In all seriousness, good point. And if memory serves didn't JMU do the same thing?

But you have to admit the number of teams and home games the CAA enjoys skews the comparison just a bit.

I only mentioned those three games because UR played their first game at home, which is why I also brought up JMU as they played them all on the road.

....Maybe it skews the comparison, or maybe the CAA is just that good

Or maybe, even after I threw you a bone, you're still incapable of admitting I'm right.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I only mentioned those three games because UR played their first game at home, which is why I also brought up JMU as they played them all on the road.

....Maybe it skews the comparison, or maybe the CAA is just that good

Or maybe, even after I threw you a bone, you're still incapable of admitting I'm right.

From what I understand DJ is one of the most capable young men you could ever meet for receiving a bone. I think it's the way you were sweet talking him Kalm.

[YoUDeeMan]

Cluck, you're an ass and know nothing about TXST. For the record, we did have a chance. That game Saturday was close and hard fought. Remember 2005? Jeezus, what a moron. Yeah, yeah, we all know the **** UCA stuff. Get over it. They still aren't a full football member. Check the NCAA site and see where they are listed...under independents. Nothing they do yet, in football, amounts to ****.

You know, when a team that hasn't had a history of winning starts to make strides in the right direction people either applaud or berate. I easily surmised where you stand. Nope, we've never been a DI powerhouse but you know what? Things are happening to move the program in the right direction.......finally. I'll take 2nd place and 2 winning seasons in a row (that hasn't happened in 2 decades) and all the good that is starting to occur in San Marcos, over all the FCS cynics here and on other boards. We'll probably have more losing seasons along the way but we won't ever be down like in the past.

Hey, and you lose a 1000 yd RB and see what happens to your O.....just sayin'

I'm excited for this program. Ridicule all you want if it makes your day

You certainly are excited about your program!

BTW, stop talking to Karmita. She would occassionally lecture me and call me an ass and a moron; but like you, she never could understand what the hell I was talking about.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Or maybe, even after I threw you a bone, you're still incapable of admitting I'm right.

From what I understand DJ is one of the most capable young men you could ever meet for receiving a bone. I think it's the way you were sweet talking him Kalm.

[YoUDeeMan]

I don't think he was talking about Texas State. Little too much wine?

Come to think of it, this is what happens when a team with ZERO chance of winning their own conference outright...each and every single year...sees other successful teams have off years.

Yeah, he was.

No, I wasn't. But thanks for the chuckle.

[YoUDeeMan]

CAA
2006 - 1st Round 2-1; 2nd Round 1-1 (loss was to another CAA team)
2007 - 1st Round 3-2; 2nd Round 2-1 (no CAA teams played each other)
2008 - 1st Round 4-1; 2nd Round 3-1 (loss was to another CAA team)
Total - 1st Round 9-4 (69%); 2nd round 6-3 (67%)

BSC

2006 - 1st Round 2-0; 2nd round 1-1
2007 - 1st Round 1-1; 2nd round 0-1
2008 - 1st Round 2-0; 2nd round 1-1 (loss was to another BSC team)
Total - 1st Round 5-1 (83%); 2nd Round (40%)

Using those stats, and eliminating the intraconference match ups:
CAA second round: 4-1 (75%)
BSC second round: 1-2 (33%)

Game, set, match.

[CatMom]

With the number of teams the committee puts in there, every year, from the CAA, it's no surprise they win more. Get a grip guys. They don't play each other until later rounds. The BSC end up playing each other more. Sorry, just MHO.

And wasn't this about teams that are no longer in the playoff picture? See it got hijacked into another BSC/CAA pissing match.

[YoUDeeMan]

With the number of teams the committee puts in there, every year, from the CAA, it's no surprise they win more. Get a grip guys. They don't play each other until later rounds. The BSC end up playing each other more. Sorry, just MHO.

And wasn't this about teams that are no longer in the playoff picture? See it got hijacked into another BSC/CAA pissing match.

The OVC and MEAC occassionally put two teams in the playoffs and they both lose. Putting more conference teams into the playoffs doesn't mean more victories unless those teams win. That means beating other teams from other conferences, which, of course, is the point. Once past the first round, as the opponets get tougher, the BSC, with the exception of the Griz, consistently fails.

Note: I did not mention TXST or the Southland. That doesn't mean that I am not an ass or a moron, but I will look for those compliments to be tossed with a little bit of Pacific seasoning.

[BlueHen86]

With the number of teams the committee puts in there, every year, from the CAA, it's no surprise they win more. Get a grip guys. They don't play each other until later rounds. The BSC end up playing each other more. Sorry, just MHO.

And wasn't this about teams that are no longer in the playoff picture? See it got hijacked into another BSC/CAA pissing match.

The thread was about three specific teams that are no longer in the payoff picture, two of which are CAA schools.

The thread wasn't hijacked, it started out as a BSC/CAA pissing match.

[CatMom]

logically, think about why that is ...... and yes, it's my opinion

Sometimes a lot of you guys can't step back. He's BSC and you're CAA. You see it from you're side and he, his. I'm looking at it from the outside and from a school with little (practically none) playoff history. Been here almost a year and this pissing match never ends. Stop drinking the kool aid for a bit and put it away. Let it be decided on the field..it's getting old. Mine is better than yours is a kindergarten issue.

There are really good teams, there are really bad teams. There are mediocre teams, teams on the rise, teams on the decline and teams just getting started. Some of you who come from schools with perrennial football powerhouses have no idea how some of your bitching comes off to those other schools, like TXST. It's really annoying at times. Sorry, it is.

For a while I get swayed one way or the other...I'll admit that but it's getting so tiresome I think I'll step back and not give a fuck about the argument. Guilty in the past for taking sides. I think I need to stop. Just adds fuel.

Ok, off my soap box (and back to reality)

[JMU DJ]

Or maybe, even after I threw you a bone, you're still incapable of admitting I'm right.

Or maybe your sarcasm meter is broken... may be kind of hard to pick it up as I enjoy perpetuating the CAA stereotype and I'm a CAA poster.

From what I understand DJ is one of the most capable young men you could ever meet for receiving a bone. I think it's the way you were sweet talking him Kalm.

URPUS!!! YOU SWORE YOU'D NEVER TELL!!!

[bandl]

logically, think about why that is ...... and yes, it's my opinion

Sometimes a lot of you guys can't step back. He's BSC and you're CAA. You see it from you're side and he, his. I'm looking at it from the outside and from a school with little (practically none) playoff history. Been here almost a year and this pissing match never ends. Stop drinking the kool aid for a bit and put it away. Let it be decided on the field..it's getting old. Mine is better than yours is a kindergarten issue.

There are really good teams, there are really bad teams. There are mediocre teams, teams on the rise, teams on the decline and teams just getting started. Some of you who come from schools with perrennial football powerhouses have no idea how some of your bitching comes off to those other schools, like TXST. It's really annoying at times. Sorry, it is.

For a while I get swayed one way or the other...I'll admit that but it's getting so tiresome I think I'll step back and not give a fuck about the argument. Guilty in the past for taking sides. I think I need to stop. Just adds fuel.

Ok, off my soap box (and back to reality)

Am I the only one who thinks this when CM posts?
(JMU DJ will get what I'm talking about)

[JMU DJ]

Am I the only one who thinks this when CM posts?
(JMU DJ will get what I'm talking about)

So in this analogy, is the CAA like Jermaine and the BSC is like Brett?

[bandl]

Am I the only one who thinks this when CM posts?
(JMU DJ will get what I'm talking about)

So in this analogy, is the CAA like Jermaine and the BSC is like Brett?

Doesn't Brett get more bitches than Jemaine? Other than that, not sure what other successes those two really have to compare...so I think Brett would be like the CAA

[CatMom]

bandl,

Think what you want. Sometimes I don't express myself very well, ok, most times. I actually have logical thoughts but I can't get it out right when I type. If you aren't in my position you won't understand what I am truly attempting to say. Even the right words and phrases escape me after I do start to respond.

Basically, unless you are from a school such as TXST or any other program in similar positions, you won't get why 'watching' all of you from very good programs always arguing about who is better, etc. all the time, is befuddling and causes one to scratch heads. It's almost like the BCS arguments.

That said (and not very well) I will continue to contribute as best I can. Someone has to, at least, attempt to rep the SLC and right now, there aren't many of us here. I may not be the best wordsmith to do so but, I try.

[JMU DJ]

Doesn't Brett get more bitches than Jemaine? Other than that, not sure what other successes those two really have to compare...so I think Brett would be like the CAA

BlackFlakin might disagree with this statement... apparently he get's more bitches by himself than the entire CAA.