Strongest and Weakest in FCS

[CatMom]

Disregard, I found it so, for shits and giggles, I'll list the SLC FBS opponents

TCU - 3 (TXST)
Houston- 31 (Northwestern)
Ole Miss - 38 (SELA)
Air Force - 50 (Nicholls)
Baylor - 77 (Northwestern)
SMU - 79 (SFA)
Tulsa - 94 (SAM)
Hawaii - 108 (UCA)
Tulane - 142 (McNeese)
WKU - 181 (UCA)

[89Hen]

Other than the fact that we are 6-6 in our last 12 against 1A you have a point.

How many of the 6 wins weren't against Idaho?

[89Hen]

If by "you" you meant the BSC, let's take a look at the relative strength of the FBS opponents, shall we?

Sagarin ratings as of 11/8:
Cal 25 - LOSS
Michigan State 51 - LOSS
Wyoming 107 - LOSS
Colorado State 97 - LOSS
Arizona 14 - LOSS
Mississippi 38 - LOSS
UNLV 99 - LOSS
Arizona State 54 - LOSS
Oklahoma 26 - LOSS
Kansas 62 - LOSS
Oregon State 18 - LOSS

I'm sorry, somebody just stepped in my office and I couldn't hear you... did you have a point?

[89Hen]

AZ - can you post the Sagarin for TCU - just for laughs?

Why's that? I thought TCU was undefeated.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Other than the fact that we are 6-6 in our last 12 against 1A you have a point.

How many of the 6 wins weren't against Idaho?

Four, but didn't you say FBS wins? The wins you are touting aren't over Florida correct? 2 wins were against Oregon State as well. You said we can't beat a 1A and I showed you that not only can we but we are .500 in the last 12.

[AZGrizFan]

Other than the fact that we are 6-6 in our last 12 against 1A you have a point.

How many of the 6 wins weren't against Idaho?

You mean the West coast version of Tulane, Ball State et. al.?

[AZGrizFan]

If by "you" you meant the BSC, let's take a look at the relative strength of the FBS opponents, shall we?

Sagarin ratings as of 11/8:
Cal 25 - LOSS
Michigan State 51 - LOSS
Wyoming 107 - LOSS
Colorado State 97 - LOSS
Arizona 14 - LOSS
Mississippi 38 - LOSS
UNLV 99 - LOSS
Arizona State 54 - LOSS
Oklahoma 26 - LOSS
Kansas 62 - LOSS
Oregon State 18 - LOSS

I'm sorry, somebody just stepped in my office and I couldn't hear you... did you have a point?

Yes, but you're too dense to understand it anyway.

[CatMom]

AZ - can you post the Sagarin for TCU - just for laughs?

Why's that? I thought TCU was undefeated.

I suppose it's because I had no real point to make in your argument but I wanted to know where TCU was in the Sagarin. My only point, outside your particular oneupmanship fray, being, when the rest of you guys decide to man up and take on a team like TCU, knowing full well you will not likely come out with a win, but your team doesn't see it as just a money game...but a real challenge... then I'll get into the fray.

This is why when all of you kissed UCA's ass after beating WKU, I was not on the bandwagon. Yeah, we could take on WKU or any of the other bottom dwellers in the FBS but my hope is that TXST will always attempt to schedule that more challenging game.
Now if they would schedule better FCS OOC to go along with them...I'd be a really happy camper.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Why's that? I thought TCU was undefeated.

I suppose it's because I had no real point to make in your argument but I wanted to know where TCU was in the Sagarin. My only point, outside your particular oneupmanship fray, being, when the rest of you guys decide to man up and take on a team like TCU, knowing full well you will not likely come out with a win, but your team doesn't see it as just a money game...but a real challenge... then I'll get into the fray.

This is why when all of you kissed UCA's ass after beating WKU, I was not on the bandwagon. Yeah, we could take on WKU or any of the other bottom dwellers in the FBS but my hope is that TXST will always attempt to schedule that more challenging game.
Now if they would schedule better FCS OOC to go along with them...I'd be a really happy camper.

I can't believe a woman is caught up in a dick measuring contest.

If we're gonna talk about anything along these lines shouldn't it be who won the FBS games and not who "challenged" themselves the most and lost? Schools don't challenge themselves because they are testing their manliness, they challenge themselves with those games because they found the "john" willing to give them the most money. Nothing wrong with paying the bills but let's not pass that shit off as a test of the mettle of a particular school's team. That's disingenuous at best.

Montana has played Oregon, & Iowa in the last 5 yrs. Delaware has Maryland, and a lot of other teams have real good FBS teams they have played in the last few years. Why you would think it is more "impressive" to play those teams and lose most of the time when they can play an FBS they have a chance of winning and thus going toward your playoff hopes I just can't figure.

You have said every time I've asked you why you are carrying a grudge against UCA and the fact that msot of the FCS community thought of them as a good team. You say every time that you don't carry a grudge but NOBODY brings that team up more than you do. We thought UCA was gonna be pretty good again this year because of what the (surprisingly) were able to do to your conference right out of the gate. They have been a good team the last few years and when they go and beat an FBS on the road that leads a guy to think they still are decent. As a guy I kinda need to see some proof that they aren't as good as I thought which they have provided in the last month. Until that point I don't go on emotion and bring them down without the proof. You may not like this but the UCA obsession and how we saw them is a little overdone at this point. You ain't Texas Terror yet but you seem to have the makings of he as far as UCA goes.

[CatMom]

So I'm not allowed to get into pissing contests?

Look, Montana doesn't have to argue many points with other BSC teams, you have a good prgram. However, you do get into pissing contests with other conferences. I live and die in the SLC. I watch the SLC. Not many on here can say that. I watched UCA. I watched McNeese, I watched SELA...etc, this year. I also got very tired of everyone bringing up last season (the NCAA pages won't even list a conference record for UCA for last year). So, they win a game against WKU and everyone here was "thinking" they had to be the better team. I tried to tell you all and now that I have been proven right I can't bitch?

TXST likely will lose tomorrow and not make the playoffs, but we have a better team than UCA and SFA. We won against both of them. I keep saying SFA isn't the team you all place them at too. What about that one? They may or may not win out and make the playoffs. If they do, fine but I will hold out we are better than them. That said, I think SELA can take them. My prediction for SLC rep, at this point, is McNeese and SELA. SELA came "out of nowhere" and is surprising the hell out of everyone in the SLC. SFA could win tomorrow also, then they would make the playoffs but nothing is settled in the SLC ....yet. I just feel SELA is the better of those 2 teams.

People will, always, watch the teams...from last year. From past years. Make assumptions. UCA lost Nathan Brown and they are not the same team...no one on here wanted to hear that. We lost 19 players and while most were optimistic, and I admit I was, after seeing the D in the first few games I was positive we were in for a very long season.
(And now this is not making any kind of coherent sense.)
Plainly...I am the mainTXST poster on here and the love given UCA on this board had to be discredited by someone. Some on here diss the CAA, others Montana, others App, others UNI. I can't help it that other SLC folks aren't on this board to agree with me or not. So that leaves me alone doing so. Perhaps that's why it stands out. (that and sometimes I don't know when to shut the fuck up)

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

So I'm not allowed to get into pissing contests?

Look, Montana doesn't have to argue many points with other BSC teams, you have a good prgram. However, you do get into pissing contests with other conferences. I live and die in the SLC. I watch the SLC. Not many on here can say that. I watched UCA. I watched McNeese, I watched SELA...etc, this year. I also got very tired of everyone bringing up last season (the NCAA pages won't even list a conference record for UCA for last year). So, they win a game against WKU and everyone here was "thinking" they had to be the better team. I tried to tell you all and now that I have been proven right I can't bitch?

TXST likely will lose tomorrow and not make the playoffs, but we have a better team than UCA and SFA. We won against both of them. I keep saying SFA isn't the team you all place them at too. What about that one? They may or may not win out and make the playoffs. If they do, fine but I will hold out we are better than them. That said, I think SELA can take them. My prediction for SLC rep, at this point, is McNeese and SELA. SELA came "out of nowhere" and is surprising the hell out of everyone in the SLC. SFA could win tomorrow also, then they would make the playoffs but nothing is settled in the SLC ....yet. I just feel SELA is the better of those 2 teams.

People will, always, watch the teams...from last year. From past years. Make assumptions. UCA lost Nathan Brown and they are not the same team...no one on here wanted to hear that. We lost 19 players and while most were optimistic, and I admit I was, after seeing the D in the first few games I was positive we were in for a very long season.
(And now this is not making any kind of coherent sense.)
Plainly...I am the mainTXST poster on here and the love given UCA on this board had to be discredited by someone. Some on here diss the CAA, others Montana, others App, others UNI. I can't help it that other SLC folks aren't on this board to agree with me or not. So that leaves me alone doing so. Perhaps that's why it stands out. (that and sometimes I don't know when to shut the fuck up)

Hey, I don't mind going back and forth about anything. Everything is debatable in my book. I'm just trying to point out to you that you are grinding an axe and making claims that we were all in love with UCA. You have to be shittin' me here cmilfy. What you are doing is mistaking some posters on both boards as being in love with UCA when all it was really is just needing to see them falter when it wasn't expected. Once they did then people take that new information in and reassess the rankings and so on. The thing that I don't think you realize you are doing is that you make statements like "you were all kissing UCA's ass" and "I told you so!" and so forth. You see, we can trust what you say but we NEED verification as well. You seem to take that a little too personally. It's the "I told you so" factor that smells a little funny and makes it come off a little cranky.

As a juxtaposition I will use something that you brought up in your post.

Before the SUU game you were actually quite confident that SUU had not seen a defense like you guys had. You were downright stern in your posts about it. I brought up to you the fact that you might be overestimating TXST's defensive prowess based on what I had seen. I also think I said that SUU was a stouter team this year than the one you played last year. You were unconvinced. I could try and point that out to you at every opportunity but I don't. I am comfortable that you maybe relaxed your position on TXST's defense (from what you said above anyway) and started looking at it from a new perspective. That's good enough for me. It might be nice if you tried that as far as letting some of us learn what UCA is really about this year by pointing out what you think and then letting the board members see it for themselves. It is easier for people when they don't see the "I told you so" thing on a repetitive basis.

Last point...so what if you're incoherent? So what if you don't know when to shut the fuck up? If you did STFU we wouldn't have as many fun trysts now would we?

Love ya TexasCatMilfTerror.

If you get the chance then call with updates.

[CatMom]

In reverse order.

Nothing will change there Ursus

I use the "I told you so" because sometimes it comes off like nobody's listening and I've had a lot of that elsewhere. Hard habit to break, but I'll work on it.

I think I posted several times (and threads) after SUU and especially after SELA, that our D sucked more thanI (or the rest of BCF) had expected. After TCU I was convinced we finally had a D somewhere similar (not as good but close) to 2005. That got deflated quickly. As for SUU, I also stated we "supposedly" signed another home and home and we're not happy about it. They have our number. However good or bad SUU may have been this year, they likely would have beaten us anyway. No, I didn't know about SUU's team but one has to hype one's team at times and I can certainly go overboard

However, somewhere along the way, whether the return of Joe Bell and the healing of Hood and a couple others had anything to do with it or if the seniors finally lit fires under asses, the past 3 games have seen an improved, though not overwhelming, defense.

If I can manage to remember Saturday, I'll try to(call) give updates. I have an old phone so texting is a slow go and a bit of a bitch.