Oh, my apologies then. I didn't realize that montana had to play against an old championship banner as well...kalm wrote:14-3 and 38-28 against an Ivy and Big South are hardly better than 12-10 against a down ISU. At least Idaho State has a National Championship banner hanging in its stadium and comes from a conference that fully funds scholarships.DJH wrote:
The games you mentioned were both double digit victories. Not last second FG wins, against winless teams.
Illogical would be describing a team from a power conference (no matter how bad) as sister's of the poor.
Who's #1?
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Re: Who's #1?
I completely AGREE with these standings..!!!!!AZGrizFan wrote:My top 5 will probably look like this (with last weeks position in parentheses):
1) Villanova (5)
2) SIU (3)
3) Elon (4)
4) Montana (1)
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Re: Who's #1?
Old championship banners would keep it within 10 against VMI or Penn.DJH wrote:Oh, my apologies then. I didn't realize that montana had to play against an old championship banner as well...kalm wrote:
14-3 and 38-28 against an Ivy and Big South are hardly better than 12-10 against a down ISU. At least Idaho State has a National Championship banner hanging in its stadium and comes from a conference that fully funds scholarships.
Illogical would be describing a team from a power conference (no matter how bad) as sister's of the poor.
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Re: Who's #1?
No, Butler is 9-0.Grizalltheway wrote:Regardless of how shitty they played today, the Griz are still the only team in FCS (I think) with a zero in the loss column.
Certainly not saying that merits them the #1 spot.
But SIU's only loss was a three-point loss to an FBS team (not a particularly GOOD FBS team, but still).
So if I was voting (which I'm not), I'd have SIU as my #1.
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Re: Who's #1?
Agreed 100%.DJH wrote:Its not dumb. This is supposed to be a ranking of which teams are the best teams. Not which teams have the longest winning streaks.MrTitleist wrote:Unfortunately. But regardless, it's dumb to move a team down after a win. Bad win or not, it's still another tally in the W column.
If you squeak by a team that you should roll by 30, then you don't deserve to stay at the same spot or move up in the poll IMO.
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Seconded.AZGrizFan wrote:Agreed 100%.DJH wrote:
Its not dumb. This is supposed to be a ranking of which teams are the best teams. Not which teams have the longest winning streaks.
If you squeak by a team that you should roll by 30, then you don't deserve to stay at the same spot or move up in the poll IMO.
Re: Who's #1?
Sometimes it's not so much "moving a team down" as it is moving another team up (which might bump other teams down a spot).MrTitleist wrote:Unfortunately. But regardless, it's dumb to move a team down after a win. Bad win or not, it's still another tally in the W column.
I'd think it would be quite tough to say that SIU's win over SDSU today was not more impressive than UM's win over ISU.
Re: Who's #1?
my top 5 is.
1. Southern Illinois
2. Villanova
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. William & Mary
1. Southern Illinois
2. Villanova
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. William & Mary

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Re: Who's #1?
1) 'Nova
2) SIU
3) Montana
4) Elon
5) Richmond
Nova beat #1 on the road, deserves it this week in spite of loss to UNH.
SIU jumps the Griz this week, played better against stroger opponent, no FCS losses.
Griz probably deserve to be a place or two lower, but a win is a win counts for something.
Elon, deserves some recognition in spite of weaker resume than rest of top 5
Richmond, lost a close one, a number 1 team shouldn't lose at home because of poor kicking.
2) SIU
3) Montana
4) Elon
5) Richmond
Nova beat #1 on the road, deserves it this week in spite of loss to UNH.
SIU jumps the Griz this week, played better against stroger opponent, no FCS losses.
Griz probably deserve to be a place or two lower, but a win is a win counts for something.
Elon, deserves some recognition in spite of weaker resume than rest of top 5
Richmond, lost a close one, a number 1 team shouldn't lose at home because of poor kicking.
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Re: Who's #1?
I've had SIU ahead of Montana for the previous 3 weeks, they will continue to be ahead of them this week, too.
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Montana.
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Re: Who's #1?
Princeton has 28 National Championships in football.kalm wrote:14-3 and 38-28 against an Ivy and Big South are hardly better than 12-10 against a down ISU. At least Idaho State has a National Championship banner hanging in its stadium and comes from a conference that fully funds scholarships.DJH wrote:
The games you mentioned were both double digit victories. Not last second FG wins, against winless teams.
Illogical would be describing a team from a power conference (no matter how bad) as sister's of the poor.
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My point is that ISU is being tremendously under rated. They are easily on of the ten best 0-8 teams in the country. Hell, it wouldn't be a stretch for them to have a couple of wins playing if they were playing in the Ivy or NEC.UNHWildCats wrote:Princeton has 28 National Championships in football.kalm wrote:
14-3 and 38-28 against an Ivy and Big South are hardly better than 12-10 against a down ISU. At least Idaho State has a National Championship banner hanging in its stadium and comes from a conference that fully funds scholarships.
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Re: Who's #1?
kalm wrote:My point is that ISU is being tremendously under rated. They are easily on of the ten best 0-8 teams in the country. Hell, it wouldn't be a stretch for them to have a couple of wins playing if they were playing in the Ivy or NEC.UNHWildCats wrote:
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Re: Who's #1?
ISU would have more than a couple of wins in the NEC or Ivy League.kalm wrote:...My point is that ISU is being tremendously under rated. ... Hell, it wouldn't be a stretch for them to have a couple of wins playing if they were playing in the Ivy or NEC.
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Re: Who's #1?
native wrote:Montana.
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Re: Who's #1?
SIU is my #2.houndawg wrote:native wrote:Montana.
Nova and SIU both have a better resume, and SIU is undefeated in FCS play, too.
Re: Who's #1?
And we're not?houndawg wrote:native wrote:Montana.
Nova and SIU both have a better resume, and SIU is undefeated in FCS play, too.
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Hence why he said "too." Both undefeated in FCS play, SIU with the better resume.Willie wrote:And we're not?houndawg wrote:
Nova and SIU both have a better resume, and SIU is undefeated in FCS play, too.
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Re: Who's #1?
MrTitleist wrote:How do you move a team down for winning? Mine will go as follows:
1. Nova (3)
2. Montana (2)
3. SIU (4)
4. William and Mary (5)
5. Richmond (1)
for me poll positions are based on my preception of a teams most recent performance. that said, i haven't had the Griz higher than 3rd.
1. SIU
2. Villanova
3. Griz ( i won't penalize a win, nor will i reward for that performance! )
4. W&M
5. Richmond
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Re: Who's #1?
My Top 5...
#1-Southern Illinois
#2-Villanova
#3-Montana
#4-Richmond
#5-William & Mary
#1-Southern Illinois
#2-Villanova
#3-Montana
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Re: Who's #1?
Gotta be SIU or Nova. No way you can reward Montana for their performance this week.





