Post your poll - 10/31

[ToTheLeft]

Weber and EWU are all a part of one big circle jerk like what someone (I think it was AZ) said about the CAA.

Weber is "good" because they beat EWU
EWU is "good" because they beat MSU
MSU is "good" because they beat Weber

Montana is good, and none of those teams beat Montana, and they didn't do anything OOC to show me they're worth a cent.

And UNI is propped up by the 1 point loss to Iowa. They really haven't done anything earth shattering except lose in the dome and beat up on terrible teams.

And everyone has LU so low because our only "quality" win is against Lafayette. Which, should they continue to win and win the PL, would be a quality win. More quality than anything on UNI's schedule.

[clenz]

Weber and EWU are all a part of one big circle jerk like what someone (I think it was AZ) said about the CAA.

Weber is "good" because they beat EWU
EWU is "good" because they beat MSU
MSU is "good" because they beat Weber

Montana is good, and none of those teams beat Montana, and they didn't do anything OOC to show me they're worth a cent.

And UNI is propped up by the 1 point loss to Iowa. They really haven't done anything earth shattering except lose in the dome and beat up on terrible teams.

And everyone has LU so low because our only "quality" win is against Lafayette. Which, should they continue to win and win the PL, would be a quality win. More quality than anything on UNI's schedule.

You mean a 1 point loss to the #4 team in the FBS?

That 7 point loss to SIU in which we handed them the game, twice?
That loss AT SDSU during their HOMECOMING, which we again gave them the game?


You mean the fact that outside of 2 top 10 FCS teams we are outscoring opponents at a 47-5...ish clip means we are bad? You are a fucking joke of a homer voter if I have ever saw one.

[JMU DJ]

Weber and EWU are all a part of one big circle jerk like what someone (I think it was AZ) said about the CAA.

Weber is "good" because they beat EWU
EWU is "good" because they beat MSU
MSU is "good" because they beat Weber

Montana is good, and none of those teams beat Montana, and they didn't do anything OOC to show me they're worth a cent.

And UNI is propped up by the 1 point loss to Iowa. They really haven't done anything earth shattering except lose in the dome and beat up on terrible teams.

And everyone has LU so low because our only "quality" win is against Lafayette. Which, should they continue to win and win the PL, would be a quality win. More quality than anything on UNI's schedule.

You mean a 1 point loss to the #4 team in the FBS?

That 7 point loss to SIU in which we handed them the game, twice?
That loss AT SDSU during their HOMECOMING, which we again gave them the game?


You mean the fact that outside of 2 top 10 FCS teams we are outscoring opponents at a 47-5...ish clip means we are bad? You are a fucking joke of a homer voter if I have ever saw one.

Jeeze... how many people are going to argue about losses to explain why their team is better?

[MrTitleist]

Interesting - GoKats ranks MSU, but not NAU, who SPANKED the kitties at the LitterBowl...

haha.. you're giving GoKats hell, but you have NAU at 14th after a loss to a sub .500 team? NAU has 1 win vs. a team w/ a winning record.

Criticizing other people's polls might be fun because there are some polls out there that are ..... odd, but I don't see the point in it because it's a lot of opinions merged into a final product.. and hopefully, not a single poll is the same.

[ToTheLeft]

Liberty is beating up on the crap teams they play, too. And I only have LU a spot or two ahead of where ISUMatt, who isn't even a Big South Fan, much less an LU fan, has them. You're just butthurt because someone isn't kissing UNI's butt over losing to Iowa.

And adding excuses to losses doesn't make them less of a loss. I am done trying to defend the stupid JMU loss, we lost to JMU. A loss that looks better every week, but it was a loss. Oh, and "Giving" a team a game means you lost, and doing it twice means you're not a top 10 calibre team. Giving teams games means your team isn't championship material. How many games have Richmond, Elon, and the Griz given away this year?

[mainejeff]

Not much movement for my poll actually.

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Southern Illinois Salukis
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: William & Mary Tribe
6: Elon Phoenix
7: New Hampshire Wildcats
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: South Carolina State Bulldogs
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: Eastern Illinois Panthers
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
18: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Massachusetts Minutemen
23: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
24: Liberty Flames
25: Lafayette Leopards


Just because teams lose doesn't necessarily mean they aren't still one of the best 25 teams in the country.

Maine just beat UMass 19-9 and both teams are 4-4 yet UMass is #22 and Maine unranked???

[JMU DJ]

Liberty is beating up on the crap teams they play, too. And I only have LU a spot or two ahead of where ISUMatt, who isn't even a Big South Fan, much less an LU fan, has them. You're just butthurt because someone isn't kissing UNI's butt over losing to Iowa.

And adding excuses to losses doesn't make them less of a loss. I am done trying to defend the stupid JMU loss, we lost to JMU. A loss that looks better every week, but it was a loss . Oh, and "Giving" a team a game means you lost, and doing it twice means you're not a top 10 calibre team. Giving teams games means your team isn't championship material. How many games have Richmond, Elon, and the Griz given away this year?

That's generally how Clenz walks around this board



.... that's all they will see in the end, is a loss. Not how well you played in that loss, just that you lost. Anyone care that Notre Dame almost beat USC a few years ago? Nope.

[clenz]

It isn't just the humans not giving Liberty the respect you think they deserve, it is the computers


(9) Northern Iowa 5 3 1.404
(23) Lafayette 7 1 1.073
(24) Liberty 6 2 1.066

[ToTheLeft]

It's tough to gain e-respect from the computers when your conference mates decide that recruiting, facilities, and otherwise fielding competitive sports teams isn't really important. We beat CSU and went down. We beat Presby and stayed the same. It's like we play Indiana State EVERY WEEK, instead of once a year.

[GOKATS]

Interesting - GoKats ranks MSU, but not NAU, who SPANKED the kitties at the LitterBowl...

I had NAU ranked last week, but after the Suck St. loss I dropped 'em.

[AZGrizFan]

It's tough to gain e-respect from the computers when your conference mates decide that recruiting, facilities, and otherwise fielding competitive sports teams isn't really important. We beat CSU and went down. We beat Presby and stayed the same. It's like we play Indiana State EVERY WEEK, instead of once a year.

I was going to post that you play WORSE teams than Indiana State every week, then I went and looked and saw that they lost to QUINCY (a D-II school).

Never mind...

Liberty will be ranked above Indiana State in my next poll. I promise.

[GOKATS]

Interesting - GoKats ranks MSU, but not NAU, who SPANKED the kitties at the LitterBowl...

And has Montana 5th.

Clean your specs dickwad, I have the griz 4th and that's where I think they should be, it's actually the highest I've had them this year...............

[danefan]

Not much movement for my poll actually.

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Southern Illinois Salukis
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: William & Mary Tribe
6: Elon Phoenix
7: New Hampshire Wildcats
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: South Carolina State Bulldogs
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: Eastern Illinois Panthers
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
18: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Massachusetts Minutemen
23: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
24: Liberty Flames
25: Lafayette Leopards


Just because teams lose doesn't necessarily mean they aren't still one of the best 25 teams in the country.

Maine just beat UMass 19-9 and both teams are 4-4 yet UMass is #22 and Maine unranked???

Its hard to get over what I've seen in person, even with UMass's complete inability to play on the road. I have Maine right outside at about 27 or 28.

It was one of those things that I couldn't come up with a logical answer to. Perhaps the answer should have been to rank both Maine and UMass.

But then what do you do with Albany? Albany completely throttled Maine in that second half, but then got demolished by UMass. Weird results this year for sure.

[dbackjon]

Liberty is beating up on the crap teams they play, too. And I only have LU a spot or two ahead of where ISUMatt, who isn't even a Big South Fan, much less an LU fan, has them. You're just butthurt because someone isn't kissing UNI's butt over losing to Iowa.

And adding excuses to losses doesn't make them less of a loss. I am done trying to defend the stupid JMU loss, we lost to JMU. A loss that looks better every week, but it was a loss. Oh, and "Giving" a team a game means you lost, and doing it twice means you're not a top 10 calibre team. Giving teams games means your team isn't championship material. How many games have Richmond, Elon, and the Griz given away this year?

You beat up Chuck South?







And good to have a Big South poster voting/defending his poll. Liberty is too high in your poll, but evened out with all votes

[dbackjon]

Interesting - GoKats ranks MSU, but not NAU, who SPANKED the kitties at the LitterBowl...

I had NAU ranked last week, but after the Suck St. loss I dropped 'em.

Yet we still kicked your ass. Game, set and match NAU. NAU earned the ranking over Montana State.


Dback Jon +
GoKats -

[ToTheLeft]

Liberty is beating up on the crap teams they play, too. And I only have LU a spot or two ahead of where ISUMatt, who isn't even a Big South Fan, much less an LU fan, has them. You're just butthurt because someone isn't kissing UNI's butt over losing to Iowa.

And adding excuses to losses doesn't make them less of a loss. I am done trying to defend the stupid JMU loss, we lost to JMU. A loss that looks better every week, but it was a loss. Oh, and "Giving" a team a game means you lost, and doing it twice means you're not a top 10 calibre team. Giving teams games means your team isn't championship material. How many games have Richmond, Elon, and the Griz given away this year?

You beat up Chuck South?







And good to have a Big South poster voting/defending his poll. Liberty is too high in your poll, but evened out with all votes

We did just as well against Chuck as UNH did against St. Francis, and they're still in the top 10.

[houndawg]

Weber and EWU are all a part of one big circle jerk like what someone (I think it was AZ) said about the CAA.

Weber is "good" because they beat EWU
EWU is "good" because they beat MSU
MSU is "good" because they beat Weber

Montana is good, and none of those teams beat Montana, and they didn't do anything OOC to show me they're worth a cent.

And UNI is propped up by the 1 point loss to Iowa. They really haven't done anything earth shattering except lose in the dome and beat up on terrible teams.

And everyone has LU so low because our only "quality" win is against Lafayette. Which, should they continue to win and win the PL, would be a quality win. More quality than anything on UNI's schedule.

You mean a 1 point loss to the #4 team in the FBS?

That 7 point loss to SIU in which we handed them the game, twice?
That loss AT SDSU during their HOMECOMING, which we again gave them the game?


You mean the fact that outside of 2 top 10 FCS teams we are outscoring opponents at a 47-5...ish clip means we are bad? You are a **** joke of a homer voter if I have ever saw one.

You didn't hand anybody anything, Cletus.

2/10 on 3rd down, 1/3 on 4th down (smashmouth!), stuffed on 4th and goal, 5:39 TOP in the 4th qtr.....

We punched you in the mouth on your homecoming and took your girlfriend out to the parking lot for a quickie on the team bus.

[ToTheLeft]

It's tough to gain e-respect from the computers when your conference mates decide that recruiting, facilities, and otherwise fielding competitive sports teams isn't really important. We beat CSU and went down. We beat Presby and stayed the same. It's like we play Indiana State EVERY WEEK, instead of once a year.

I was going to post that you play WORSE teams than Indiana State every week, then I went and looked and saw that they lost to QUINCY (a D-II school).

Never mind...

Liberty will be ranked above Indiana State in my next poll. I promise.

Yeah, Chuck South can beat VMI and Savannah State... Watch out, they're dangerous!

[ToTheLeft]

Oh, and that's the same Quincy team that SEMO beat 72-3 this year.

Poor InSU

[mainejeff]

Its hard to get over what I've seen in person, even with UMass's complete inability to play on the road. I have Maine right outside at about 27 or 28.

It was one of those things that I couldn't come up with a logical answer to. Perhaps the answer should have been to rank both Maine and UMass.

But then what do you do with Albany? Albany completely throttled Maine in that second half, but then got demolished by UMass. Weird results this year for sure.

I tend to put less weight on September games as the season goes on.......not sure that a Maine/Albany game would yield the same results now. If Maine beats JMU on the road, I would hope that voters will take the Black Bears a bit more seriously. Their QB situation/passing game and defense have improved immensely over the past month!

By the way, have you heard anything about Albany playing at Maine next season? I guess that it would be the return game from this season.......any date?

[weberwildcat]

1. Georgetown
2. Presbyterian
3. Northwestern State
4. Idaho State
5. Valparaiso
6. Sacred Heart
7. Winston-Salem State
8. Western Carolina
9. Southeast Missouri State
10. Dartmouth
11. Indiana State
12. Rhode Island
13. Western Illinois
14. Northeastern
15. Morehead State
16. Campbell
17. Savannah State
18. Davidson
19. N.C. Central
20. Duquesne
21. Saint Francis-PA
22. Mississippi Valley State
23. Howard
24. Robert Morris
25. Princeton

HOw can u have Morehead above Cambell? My a**!!!!!!!!

[danefan]

Its hard to get over what I've seen in person, even with UMass's complete inability to play on the road. I have Maine right outside at about 27 or 28.

It was one of those things that I couldn't come up with a logical answer to. Perhaps the answer should have been to rank both Maine and UMass.

But then what do you do with Albany? Albany completely throttled Maine in that second half, but then got demolished by UMass. Weird results this year for sure.

I tend to put less weight on September games as the season goes on.......not sure that a Maine/Albany game would yield the same results now. If Maine beats JMU on the road, I would hope that voters will take the Black Bears a bit more seriously. Their QB situation/passing game and defense have improved immensely over the past month!

By the way, have you heard anything about Albany playing at Maine next season? I guess that it would be the return game from this season.......any date?

Haven't heard anything yet. Albany is notoriously slow about releasing a schedule. We had Cincinnati locked up in contract and us listed on their website and still couldn't get the official nod from our Athletic Department.

I do know that the Maine game was a home-and-home. I'm not sure what year the return is though or whether it dates back to our earlier trip to Maine.

That could have been the return game for Maine actually.

[AZGrizFan]

Weber and EWU are all a part of one big circle jerk like what someone (I think it was AZ) said about the CAA.

Weber is "good" because they beat EWU
EWU is "good" because they beat MSU
MSU is "good" because they beat Weber

Montana is good, and none of those teams beat Montana, and they didn't do anything OOC to show me they're worth a cent.

And any of those three teams that haven't done anything "to show me they're worth a cent" would put up a 50-spot on Liberty.

[ToTheLeft]

That's based on absolutely nothing but Big Sky bias.

[ToTheLeft]

And it also implies that all of those teams are better than JMU and WVU. Hah, laughable.