Latest Playoff Predictions 10/28

[89Hen]

UD (need to beat 'Nova and Navy)

Why both? 8-3 with a win over Nova or Navy, UMass and Maine, losses to only UR, W&M and Nova or Navy... I'm pretty confident they're in.

[danefan]

UD (need to beat 'Nova and Navy)

Why both? 8-3 with a win over Nova or Navy, UMass and Maine, losses to only UR, W&M and Nova or Navy... I'm pretty confident they're in.

What if UNI is at 8-3 also with loses to only SDSU, SIU and Iowa?

It could come down to West Chester versus St. francis and we all know the Committee loves that extra DI win, no matter where it comes from.

[89Hen]

What if UNI is at 8-3 also with loses to only SDSU, SIU and Iowa?

It could come down to West Chester versus St. francis and we all know the Committee loves that extra DI win, no matter where it comes from.

No wins over ranked teams.

[Cap'n Cat]

I think UNI will be in the playoffs. If they're not, so be it.

[houndawg]

Why both? 8-3 with a win over Nova or Navy, UMass and Maine, losses to only UR, W&M and Nova or Navy... I'm pretty confident they're in.

What if UNI is at 8-3 also with loses to only SDSU, SIU and Iowa?

It could come down to West Chester versus St. francis and we all know the Committee loves that extra DI win, no matter where it comes from.

And wins over who? Gotta give UD the edge there if they beat either Nova or Navy.

[DJH]

What if UNI is at 8-3 also with loses to only SDSU, SIU and Iowa?

It could come down to West Chester versus St. francis and we all know the Committee loves that extra DI win, no matter where it comes from.

And wins over who? Gotta give UD the edge there if they beat either Nova or Navy.

Is that your objective opinion, or the "oh shit, I don't want to play UNI in the playoffs" opinion?



A blowout win at MSU, who could finish at 8-3 or 7-4, could be the quality win for UNI. Absolutely no bad losses either. It will be tough to choose.

[houndawg]

I think UNI will be in the playoffs. If they're not, so be it.

I think they can Montana their way in if nothing else.

Traditional powerhouse, weatherproof facility, good attendance..... it could happen, if you don't underestimate YSU.

[Cap'n Cat]

I think UNI will be in the playoffs. If they're not, so be it.

I think they can Montana their way in if nothing else.

Traditional powerhouse, weatherproof facility, good attendance..... it could happen, if you don't underestimate YSU.

You're right, dawg. They won't underestimate the Pens.

[houndawg]

And wins over who? Gotta give UD the edge there if they beat either Nova or Navy.

Is that your objective opinion, or the "oh ****, I don't want to play UNI in the playoffs" opinion?



A blowout win at MSU, who could finish at 8-3 or 7-4, could be the quality win for UNI. Absolutely no bad losses either. It will be tough to choose.

In this case, both.

I agree that MSU could become a quality win for UNI if they beat us, comparable to UD beating UMass.

If that doesn't happen UNI has to hope they get Montanaed in on rep. Very possible.

[UNHWildCats]

2. The remaining teams will be paired according to geographic proximity and placed in
the bracket according to geographic proximity of the four pairings previously placed
in the bracket.


They need to get rid of this rule. A western team flying 1200 miles vs 1000 miles is an irrelevent difference.

once you have to get on a plane geography plays no role. Only time it matters if theres teams below the miles limit for busing it.

[89Hen]

Is that your objective opinion, or the "oh ****, I don't want to play UNI in the playoffs" opinion?

You really think an SIU fan wants to play UD in the playoffs?

[89Hen]

weatherproof facility

The field might be weatherproof, but the city sure isn't.

[DJH]

weatherproof facility

The field might be weatherproof, but the city sure isn't.

Maybe the sh!t storms just follow UD fans around.

That was some of the worst weather I've seen for that game in '07.

[WrenFGun]

89, that's my mistake. If Delaware wins one of those two, they're in. I just think they're not the favorite in either which makes it hard to pencil them in for the playoffs right now (I should say, I think EWU is less of a dog at NAU than UD is at 'Nova, which says more about how I feel about NAU than how I feel about UD).

As for UNI, they will be the last 8-3 team in, which means if there is another qualified major conference 8-3 team they will be staying at home. If your best win is a 7-4 Missouri State, you don't belong in the playoffs. Of the teams listed, who wouldn't have a better win? EWU perhaps, but the committee would go with a BSC rep over a third MVFC team, unless the discrepancy was enormous.

UNI cannot match the wins of SIU, SDSU, UMass, UNH, 'Nova, W&M, UD (if they're 8-3), Richmond, Montana, McNeese, SFA, and whomever wins the Elon/APP game. If Elon wins the Elon/APP game or if APP wins and Elon loses another game, there's a fair argument for UNI over either.

[DJH]

89, that's my mistake. If Delaware wins one of those two, they're in. I just think they're not the favorite in either which makes it hard to pencil them in for the playoffs right now (I should say, I think EWU is less of a dog at NAU than UD is at 'Nova, which says more about how I feel about NAU than how I feel about UD).

As for UNI, they will be the last 8-3 team in, which means if there is another qualified major conference 8-3 team they will be staying at home. If your best win is a 7-4 Missouri State, you don't belong in the playoffs. Of the teams listed, who wouldn't have a better win? EWU perhaps, but the committee would go with a BSC rep over a third MVFC team, unless the discrepancy was enormous.

UNI cannot match the wins of SIU, SDSU, UMass, UNH, 'Nova, W&M, UD (if they're 8-3), Richmond, Montana, McNeese, SFA, and whomever wins the Elon/APP game. If Elon wins the Elon/APP game or if APP wins and Elon loses another game, there's a fair argument for UNI over either.

So, you are putting 6 CAA teams in?

[89Hen]

Maybe the sh!t storms just follow UD fans around.

That was some of the worst weather I've seen for that game in '07.

You have to share in that blame. Don't forget the snow in Newark in 2003 when UNI came there.

[89Hen]

So, you are putting 6 CAA teams in?

Sould be 7.

[WrenFGun]

89, that's my mistake. If Delaware wins one of those two, they're in. I just think they're not the favorite in either which makes it hard to pencil them in for the playoffs right now (I should say, I think EWU is less of a dog at NAU than UD is at 'Nova, which says more about how I feel about NAU than how I feel about UD).

As for UNI, they will be the last 8-3 team in, which means if there is another qualified major conference 8-3 team they will be staying at home. If your best win is a 7-4 Missouri State, you don't belong in the playoffs. Of the teams listed, who wouldn't have a better win? EWU perhaps, but the committee would go with a BSC rep over a third MVFC team, unless the discrepancy was enormous.

UNI cannot match the wins of SIU, SDSU, UMass, UNH, 'Nova, W&M, UD (if they're 8-3), Richmond, Montana, McNeese, SFA, and whomever wins the Elon/APP game. If Elon wins the Elon/APP game or if APP wins and Elon loses another game, there's a fair argument for UNI over either.

So, you are putting 6 CAA teams in?

Would there be 8 other teams with better resumes? All six teams that would go would 1. Have a quality win (UD over Nova or Navy, UMass over UNH, UNH over 'Nova and Ball State, 'Nova over UD and Temple, W&M over UD and Virginia, Richmond over UD, Duke) so you just can't keep one of them out if they get to 8 wins. Is there something about UNI's resume that's better than any of these teams other than that they are 3rd in the MVFC?

[houndawg]

Is that your objective opinion, or the "oh ****, I don't want to play UNI in the playoffs" opinion?

You really think an SIU fan wants to play UD in the playoffs?

Why not? We're due.

1st time we got blown out, second time the difference was a lineman downfield on a TD pass, playing against his Flacconess no less.

Seriously, UD would be my pick for sleeper of the tournament if they get in, but I still think we can get you this time. SIU vs. Nova in the NC.

[kalm]

An 8-3 EWU would have no bad losses, the same number of quality wins (NAU and MSU) and a higher conference GPI than UNI. So would Weber, NAU, or Montana State).

[DJH]

CAA will get 4 teams in. They won't get 5, like last year with Maine's embarassment, and 6 teams is ridiculous.

One thing that UNI has going for them is that every one of their wins will be over a DI oppenent. That could push them in front of another 8-3 team that beat a DII.

[89Hen]

An 8-3 EWU would have no bad losses, the same number of quality wins (NAU and MSU) and a higher conference GPI than UNI. So would Weber, NAU, or Montana State).

I'm not sure EWU, Weber, NAU nor MSU will get to 8-3.

[WrenFGun]

CAA will get 4 teams in. They won't get 5, like last year with Maine's embarassment, and 6 teams is ridiculous.

One thing that UNI has going for them is that every one of their wins will be over a DI oppenent. That could push them in front of another 8-3 team that beat a DII.

I don't care if you've got 15 DI wins, you have no wins against quality opponents. The resume is inferior to every CAA team eligible, so yes, the CAA will get 6 teams in at 8-3 before UNI goes, but the CAA will not, in all likelihood, get 6 teams to 8-3.

And all the CAA haters will hate on 6 of the best 16 teams in the country..

[FCS Update]

CAA will get 4 teams in. They won't get 5, like last year with Maine's embarassment, and 6 teams is ridiculous.

One thing that UNI has going for them is that every one of their wins will be over a DI oppenent. That could push them in front of another 8-3 team that beat a DII.

I don't care if you've got 15 DI wins, you have no wins against quality opponents. The resume is inferior to every CAA team eligible, so yes, the CAA will get 6 teams in at 8-3 before UNI goes, but the CAA will not, in all likelihood, get 6 teams to 8-3.

And all the CAA haters will hate on 6 of the best 16 teams in the country..

There's a difference between what teams SHOULD be in, and what teams the NCAA WANTS in. The NCAA wants money, UNI and Delaware bid high. Deserving teams might get screwed.

[dbackjon]

So, you are putting 6 CAA teams in?

Would there be 8 other teams with better resumes? All six teams that would go would 1. Have a quality win (UD over Nova or Navy, UMass over UNH, UNH over 'Nova and Ball State, 'Nova over UD and Temple, W&M over UD and Virginia, Richmond over UD, Duke) so you just can't keep one of them out if they get to 8 wins. Is there something about UNI's resume that's better than any of these teams other than that they are 3rd in the MVFC?

You seem to have created a self-fulfilling circle - beating each other becomes "quality" wins.

Temple and Ball State are NOT quality wins. You are counting UD as a quality win for all, assuming that they will beat Navy. If they don't beat Navy, they won't have a quality win.

If Missouri State wins out, that would be a quality win under your standards.