JMU DJ wrote:You forget about our defense terrorizing Beecher and Corwin Acker breaking free for two long touchdown runs on 1st. You're right, your defense was tired in the 4th quarter, ours wasn't...
It would be a different game if it was played on a dry field.
if Drew Dudzik hadn't of gotten hurt, JMU may be having a slightly better season
It's an outdoor sport, if you can't play in all the elements then you have a poorly balanced/nonathletic team.
Five.... Five passing TD's all season. Like LU has much a passing game to be affected by rain anyway.
I agree with him, but do find it somewhat ironic that i was called out on it by homerbackjon........ I guess at least it wasn't clenz
Not to mention I did my poll after homecoming and Brandyn Harvey assured me they couldn't have played worse against UNH, which in my book is as good as gold, especially since we were a final drive away from beating them in front of their packed house on homecoming. Then they lost to UMASS which in my eyes confirmed their victory over us a fluke. So yes, it is a homer vote, but I don't think we lose again all year.
the UMass at 9 thing was a complete error on my part - no justification other than I fucked up
JMU DJ wrote:You forget about our defense terrorizing Beecher and Corwin Acker breaking free for two long touchdown runs on 1st. You're right, your defense was tired in the 4th quarter, ours wasn't...
It would be a different game if it was played on a dry field.
You may not realize this but saying stuff like this makes you look like you lack integrity ttl. JMU would also be better on a dry field.
If JMU was able to overcome the elements and your team was distracted by them then JMU is a tougher team mentally. They are better coached, or they were just flat out better. The excuses don't look good and we all have seen enough football to know when they are being made.
wideright82 wrote:
Not to mention I did my poll after homecoming and Brandyn Harvey assured me they couldn't have played worse against UNH, which in my book is as good as gold, especially since we were a final drive away from beating them in front of their packed house on homecoming. Then they lost to UMASS which in my eyes confirmed their victory over us a fluke. So yes, it is a homer vote, but I don't think we lose again all year.
What if I told you JMU couldn't have played worse against Villanova and W&M, would you move us up in the polls too
wideright82 wrote:
Not to mention I did my poll after homecoming and Brandyn Harvey assured me they couldn't have played worse against UNH, which in my book is as good as gold, especially since we were a final drive away from beating them in front of their packed house on homecoming. Then they lost to UMASS which in my eyes confirmed their victory over us a fluke. So yes, it is a homer vote, but I don't think we lose again all year.
What if I told you JMU couldn't have played worse against Villanova and W&M, would you move us up in the polls too
You aren't Brandyn Harvey nor am I drunk right now, so no
and if anyone expects me to not be a homer the day after seeing my teammates for the first time this year in a party setting, you are expecting entirely too much from me.
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if Drew Dudzik hadn't of gotten hurt, JMU may be having a slightly better season
It's an outdoor sport, if you can't play in all the elements then you have a poorly balanced/nonathletic team.
Five.... Five passing TD's all season. Like LU has much a passing game to be affected by rain anyway.
Look at yards... 1319 passing, 1140 rushing. Balanced. And the 70% completion percentage for the team.
Take a look at Weber States and Montana's passing yards in the game we played last year. That was a downpour and both teams still made catches, great plays and so on in it. The game at EWU last year was raining as well if I remember right and the same thing there.
If you want I can get you stats from all the below zero games in WaGriz and show you that teams can also pass for 300-400 yds when it's 20 below out.
ToTheLeft wrote:
It would be a different game if it was played on a dry field.
You may not realize this but saying stuff like this makes you look like you lack integrity ttl. JMU would also be better on a dry field.
If JMU was able to overcome the elements and your team was distracted by them then JMU is a tougher team mentally. They are better coached, or they were just flat out better. The excuses don't look good and we all have seen enough football to know when they are being made.
Ugh, I don't even know how I got down the rabbit trail of defending our loss. It was a game we weren't supposed to win, and we didn't. It's just, now that Dudzik is out and they suck, it makes us look like we suck, but the team we played was totally different than the one that's losing like crap now.
It's whatever, we'll never get any respect until we win in the playoffs, and even still we probably won't get respect. Something I have to live with I guess... However, even some JMU fans will admit that a Thorpe-led JMU in dry weather would lose to LU. And I could go through the stats and prove it. This isn't an excuse, it's just a hypothetical. We lost, and it ruined our season. JMU won.
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
You may not realize this but saying stuff like this makes you look like you lack integrity ttl. JMU would also be better on a dry field.
If JMU was able to overcome the elements and your team was distracted by them then JMU is a tougher team mentally. They are better coached, or they were just flat out better. The excuses don't look good and we all have seen enough football to know when they are being made.
Ugh, I don't even know how I got down the rabbit trail of defending our loss. It was a game we weren't supposed to win, and we didn't. It's just, now that Dudzik is out and they suck, it makes us look like we suck, but the team we played was totally different than the one that's losing like crap now.
It's whatever, we'll never get any respect until we win in the playoffs, and even still we probably won't get respect. Something I have to live with I guess... However, even some JMU fans will admit that a Thorpe-led JMU in dry weather would lose to LU. And I could go through the stats and prove it. This isn't an excuse, it's just a hypothetical. We lost, and it ruined our season. JMU won.
The first part is the way to get out of it. The second part is starting to get you back in the area of needing to defend with an unloaded gun. You can not go through the stats and prove it so lay off those kinds of things.
ToTheLeft wrote:
Look at yards... 1319 passing, 1140 rushing. Balanced. And the 70% completion percentage for the team.
Take a look at Weber States and Montana's passing yards in the game we played last year. That was a downpour and both teams still made catches, great plays and so on in it. The game at EWU last year was raining as well if I remember right and the same thing there.
If you want I can get you stats from all the below zero games in WaGriz and show you that teams can also pass for 300-400 yds when it's 20 below out.
It was bright and sunny at the Griz game in Cheney last year.
1. Richmond
2. Montana
3. Wiliam & Mary
4. Villanova
5. Southern Illinois
6. Appalachian St
7. South Dakota St
8. Elon
9. New Hampshire
10. Weber St
11. McNeese St
12. South Carolina St
13. Stephen F Austin
14. Central Arkansas
15. Northern Iowa
16. Cal Poly
17. Delaware
18. Holy Cross
19. Liberty
20. Eastern Illinois
21. Jacksonville St
22. Northern Arizona
23. Colgate
24. Eastern Washington
25. FAMU