Anyone else having a hard time putting UNH in the top 10?

[weberwildcat]

Why should a team fall in the polls for winning?

I don't think a team should be dropped until the lose a game.

[ToTheLeft]

Since I don't vote for CS, but I do vote for the other poll, I figure I will put my ballot up and let you guys know where I think some teams are...

Week 8
Approved
1. Richmond
2. Southern Illinois
3. Elon
4. Villanova
5. Montana
6. William & Mary
7. South Dakota St.
8. New Hampshire
9. Stephen F. Austin
10. South Carolina St.
11. Weber St.
12. Appalachian St.
13. Northern Iowa
14. Northern Arizona
15. Delaware
16. Liberty
17. Jacksonville St.
18. Central Arkansas
19. Eastern Illinois
20. Lafayette
21. Albany
22. Missouri St.
23. Pennsylvania
24. Holy Cross
25. Massachusetts
W. South Dakota St.
L. Jacksonville St.

I would like an honest, smack-free evaluation of my poll. I have been trying to go on a week by week basis and move people around based on their resumes (for instance, when Chatty beat Wofford, I moved Furman up since that made Furman's road win over Chatty more impressive). Let me know what you think, and if there are glaring errors (other than a slight bit of homerism with the Liberty pick. )

[dgreco]

My ballot from the other site:

Week 8
Approved
1. Richmond
2. Montana
3. Southern Illinois
4. Villanova
5. William & Mary
6. Elon
7. South Dakota St.
8. New Hampshire
9. Stephen F. Austin
10. Appalachian St.
11. Delaware
12. Northern Arizona
13. Northern Iowa
14. South Carolina St.
15. Central Arkansas
16. McNeese St.
17. Weber St.
18. Massachusetts
19. Eastern Washington
20. Eastern Illinois
21. Liberty
22. Cal Poly
23. Jacksonville St.
24. Montana St.
25. Florida A&M
W. South Dakota St.
L. Jacksonville St.

Montana State loses again and they don't drop out! I can think of 4 or 5 border teams that deserve to be in over your bottom 3. I also think Cal Poly should be a little higher.

[BlueHen86]

Why should a team fall in the polls for winning?

I don't think a team should be dropped until the lose a game.

Sometimes a lower ranked team is better than you think. If they win some impressive games they can leap frog over a higher ranked team, even if the higher ranked team also won.

[Grizalltheway]

Since I don't vote for CS, but I do vote for the other poll, I figure I will put my ballot up and let you guys know where I think some teams are...

Week 8
Approved
1. Richmond
2. Southern Illinois
3. Elon
4. Villanova
5. Montana
6. William & Mary
7. South Dakota St.
8. New Hampshire
9. Stephen F. Austin
10. South Carolina St.
11. Weber St.
12. Appalachian St.
13. Northern Iowa
14. Northern Arizona
15. Delaware
16. Liberty
17. Jacksonville St.
18. Central Arkansas
19. Eastern Illinois
20. Lafayette
21. Albany
22. Missouri St.
23. Pennsylvania
24. Holy Cross
25. Massachusetts
W. South Dakota St.
L. Jacksonville St.

I would like an honest, smack-free evaluation of my poll. I have been trying to go on a week by week basis and move people around based on their resumes (for instance, when Chatty beat Wofford, I moved Furman up since that made Furman's road win over Chatty more impressive). Let me know what you think, and if there are glaring errors (other than a slight bit of homerism with the Liberty pick. )

Honest and smack free? Montana should be ranked no lower than third.

[93henfan]

My ballot from the other site:

Week 8
Approved
1. Richmond
2. Montana
3. Southern Illinois
4. Villanova
5. William & Mary
6. Elon
7. South Dakota St.
8. New Hampshire
9. Stephen F. Austin
10. Appalachian St.
11. Delaware
12. Northern Arizona
13. Northern Iowa
14. South Carolina St.
15. Central Arkansas
16. McNeese St.
17. Weber St.
18. Massachusetts
19. Eastern Washington
20. Eastern Illinois
21. Liberty
22. Cal Poly
23. Jacksonville St.
24. Montana St.
25. Florida A&M
W. South Dakota St.
L. Jacksonville St.

Montana State loses again and they don't drop out! I can think of 4 or 5 border teams that deserve to be in over your bottom 3. I also think Cal Poly should be a little higher.

Down in that range, you have to ask yourself if it's more impressive to be 6-1 against patsies with a loss to Brown (like Holy Cross) or a decent team in the Big Sky like MSU. I'm not impressed with teams that have a sterling record against Grade A shit. You know those teams: HC, Colgate, Laffy, Butler, GW, PV, etc. Give me a team with a winning record in the BSC any day.

Noted about Cal Poly. Their one and only marquee win (SDSU) is starting to age like a fine wine. I think that Cal Poly's resume will be complete after the UC Davis game.

[AZGrizFan]

Down in that range, you have to ask yourself if it's more impressive to be 6-1 against patsies with a loss to Brown (like Holy Cross) or a decent team in the Big Sky like MSU. I'm not impressed with teams that have a sterling record against Grade A shit. You know those teams: HC, Colgate, Laffy, Butler, GW, PV, etc. Give me a team with a winning record in the BSC any day.

Noted about Cal Poly. Their one and only marquee win (SDSU) is starting to age like a fine wine. I think that Cal Poly's resume will be complete after the UC Davis game.

I couldn't agree more. That's the EXACT logic I use. Basically, I try to line up the 8-10 teams vieing for the last six slots and try to determine who would beat who on a given Saturday. And the PL, MEAC and Pioneer teams RARELY get that nod.

Which is why 22 of the 25 spots in my poll usually go to the 5 power conferences.

[Wildcat Ryan]

I would love to see Weber State play New Hampshire in the playoffs, especially because I think Weber would beat them.

(Of course both teams need to make the playoffs first.)

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

I would love to see Weber State play New Hampshire in the playoffs, especially because I think Weber would beat them.

(Of course both teams need to make the playoffs first.)

I must warn you UNH is 1-0 v Wildcats this year

[wideright82]

I would love to see Weber State play New Hampshire in the playoffs, especially because I think Weber would beat them.

(Of course both teams need to make the playoffs first.)

I must warn you UNH is 1-0 v Wildcats this year

yeah but that was a fluke

[WrenFGun]

Frankly, DBackJon, you said the same thing last year, when UNH made the quarters and NAU stayed home, again..

UNH has a 6-1 record with an FBS win over a pretty bad team and a premium FCS win over one of the best teams in the country. They struggled against Hofstra in bad weather, but I don't think there's any denying that the offense is having some problems. The St. Francis game was the first of the season, so I'll cut them some slack on that one.

I don't see many teams with better resumes than UNH, which is how I rank. SDSU and SIU both have wins over Northern Iowa (plus SDSU has a win over Georgia Southern) but I don't see how those wins are better than wins over Ball State and Villanova. Northern Arizona has beaten the following teams: Idaho State, Northern Colorado, Montana State, SUU and and Portland State. They beat SUU by 3 points and Northern Colorado by 8. There is absolutely, positively, nothing in that resume that indicates they are a better team than UNH. Weber's win over EWU is also not as impressive as wins over 'Nova and BSU. I do like Montana's wins over Davis, Poly, NAU and EWU, however, and have them higher than UNH. The only teams with clear better resumes than UNH are Richmond and Montana, IMO.

[dbackjon]

Welcome WrenFGun!! (and good to see ya again, YorkCounty)


Good write up - good to see some logical discussion.


UNH is in my top 10, but I will disagree that they are #3 in the nation - but that is the beauty of FCS, it gets worked out on the field.

[wideright82]

Welcome WrenFGun!! (and good to see ya again, YorkCounty)


Good write up - good to see some logical discussion.


UNH is in my top 10, but I will disagree that they are #3 in the nation - but that is the beauty of FCS, it gets worked out on the field.

Yes, welcome WrenF.... I also agree with you that NAU is a horrible team

[WrenFGun]

For the record, I, too, don't have UNH #3. There are plenty of teams with similar resumes that I think are better...I just think there are two that look much better than the rest right now.

[bandl]

Welcome WrenFGun!! (and good to see ya again, YorkCounty)


Good write up - good to see some logical discussion.


UNH is in my top 10, but I will disagree that they are #3 in the nation - but that is the beauty of FCS, it gets worked out on the field.

I don't think he said he had them at #3...

[bandl]

For the record, I, too, don't have UNH #3. There are plenty of teams with similar resumes that I think are better...I just think there are two that look much better than the rest right now.

Well shit. what he just said.

[GoApps70]

Man, some of you have some teams way above or below where they should be.

[93henfan]

Man, some of you have some teams way above or below where they should be.

That's an easy blanket state to make. Care to offer your poll or provide logical arguments to support your criticism of others? Two-way discussions rock!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Man, some of you have some teams way above or below where they should be.

That's an easy blanket state to make. Care to offer your poll or provide logical arguments to support your criticism of others? Two-way discussions rock!

Nailed that one.

[AZGrizFan]

That's an easy blanket state to make. Care to offer your poll or provide logical arguments to support your criticism of others? Two-way discussions rock!

Nailed that one.

'70 just made a "Fire and Forget" comment.

[Appaholic]

Got them #11, but could easily have them in top10....just don't because UNHWildcat is a fan..

[JMU DJ]

Got them #11, but could easily have them in top10....just don't because UNHWildcat is a fan..

I actually moved App St up this week, out of spite for your non-attendance. They seem to play a lot better when you come down with Sandy Vajayjayitus.

[Appaholic]

Got them #11, but could easily have them in top10....just don't because UNHWildcat is a fan..

I actually moved App St up this week, out of spite for your non-attendance. They seem to play a lot better when you come down with Sandy Vajayjayitus.

That's about the only fun you can have ranking teams this year, huh?

[93henfan]

That's an easy blanket state to make. Care to offer your poll or provide logical arguments to support your criticism of others? Two-way discussions rock!

Nailed that one.

I did my best to rip the tits off.

[Appaholic]

Chris...need a clarification...does your poll count if your team has already been eliminated from playoff contention? Inquiring JMU fans want to know.....