Will your poll voting change with expansion next year?

putter · Post by **putter** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:25 am

I was looking at the various polls and started thinking about 2010. When the NEC and BS get their Auto-bids will you be more apt to rank the respective teams in those conferences higher? This year the BS is getting some love for Liberty and Albany has received votes in the past but most have not been that impressive to rank them in the top 20. Due to the fact that they get the AQ, will you give them more love and do you think arguments will occur next year when two AQ's could get into the playoffs without them being ranked in the top 25?

Post by **danefan** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:27 am

It has to matter. How else can people explain voting for Patriot League teams right now and not Albany, Central and Liberty?

Post by **danefan** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:44 am

In fact, people on *** have blatantly come out and said that if there are two teams equal they give the nod to a team from an AQ conference over the non-AQ.

Makes no sense to me, but I know it happens now.

putter · Post by **putter** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:08 am

Yea, I agree dane. If the team is going to get an AQ, my guess is that they will gravitate to around 16 at the lowest by the end of the season, unless they just have a bad year but still win the conference. It will be interesting to see how much weight voters give the AQ.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:04 am

putter wrote:I was looking at the various polls and started thinking about 2010. When the NEC and BS get their Auto-bids will you be more apt to rank the respective teams in those conferences higher?

No. However, if they do well in the playoffs, then yes for 2011... just like any other conference. I don't give any benefit to the OVC, MEAC or PL right now other than SCSt played App well last year in the playoffs so they do get a little more juice this year.

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:20 pm

No, the expansion will have no affect on my vote. I rank who I feel are the top 25 teams regardless of conference, playoff eligibility, etc.

putter · Post by **putter** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:57 pm

GOKATS wrote:No, the expansion will have no affect on my vote. I rank who I feel are the top 25 teams regardless of conference, playoff eligibility, etc.

And that could be the rub. You could have two teams participating in the playoffs who are not even ranked in the top 25.

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:59 pm

No efFect for me

Post by **Appaholic** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:03 pm

Maybe...moreso due to giving more thought to positions 17-25....

Post by **danefan** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:04 pm

89Hen wrote:
putter wrote:I was looking at the various polls and started thinking about 2010. When the NEC and BS get their Auto-bids will you be more apt to rank the respective teams in those conferences higher?
No. However, if they do well in the playoffs, then yes for 2011... just like any other conference. I don't give any benefit to the OVC, MEAC or PL right now other than SCSt played App well last year in the playoffs so they do get a little more juice this year.

So you didn't vote Colgate and Holy Cross in your top 25?

native · Post by **native** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:32 pm

No.

The AQ system serves it purpose without any further help from already-biased homer-voters.

Post by **Ursus A. Horribilis** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:06 pm

it won't make a difference to me either. If I think someones is at 25 or not in at all I don't care that they will be in the playoffs due to a AQ. It may make you look a little more closely at them because they are AQ though as I don't pay as much attention to the ones that ain't gonna be in the playoffs unless they do something good against a big conference team.

Post by **clenz** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:14 pm

Nope. Normally when I look at who to rank it isn't really based on name so much as how they have played and stats. However, if all things are equal I would give the higher nod to a team with more history (not meaning AQ conference though) than a team that is new to success.

CatMom · Post by **CatMom** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:29 pm

putter wrote:
GOKATS wrote:No, the expansion will have no affect on my vote. I rank who I feel are the top 25 teams regardless of conference, playoff eligibility, etc.
And that could be the rub. You could have two teams participating in the playoffs who are not even ranked in the top 25.

It happened last year, didn't it?

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:31 am

danefan wrote:So you didn't vote Colgate and Holy Cross in your top 25?

Colgate yes, HC no. They are 7-0.

Post by **TwinTownBisonFan** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:04 am

always done my poll voting based on - if these two teams played on a neutral field RIGHT NOW...

that's been my criteria largely

Post by **danefan** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:05 am

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:always done my poll voting based on - if these two teams played on a neutral field RIGHT NOW...

that's been my criteria largely

Which it should be.

Post by **danefan** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:06 am

89Hen wrote:
danefan wrote:So you didn't vote Colgate and Holy Cross in your top 25?
Colgate yes, HC no. They are 7-0.

Sorry but I can never tell if you post your real poll:

89Hen wrote: 1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. William & Mary
6. UNI
7. SDSU
8. Delaware
9. App State
10. SFA
11. UMass
12. UNH
13. South Carolina State
14. Montana
15. UCA
16. Cal Poly
17. Jacksonville State
18. McNeese State
19. Colgate
20. Furman
21. James Madison
22. Georgia Southern
23. Holy Cross
24. Liberty
25. Eastern Kentucky

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:13 am

danefan wrote:Sorry but I can never tell if you post your real poll

Nah. That's my dbackjon poll.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:04 pm

danefan wrote:It has to matter. How else can people explain voting for Patriot League teams right now and not Albany, Central and Liberty?

Doesn't matter to me. I don't have ANY teams from those three conferences in my poll.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:05 pm

GOKATS wrote:No, the expansion will have no affect on my vote. I rank who I feel are the top 25 teams regardless of conference, playoff eligibility, etc.

Exactly. Who are the 25 best teams. Period.

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