My Poll - 10/11/09

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

15. Liberty

Everything else looks great, but Liberty at 15?

Hen, are you voting in this poll?

[clenz]

Would love to post my poll but I lost my screen shot of it, so I can't post it.

[89Hen]

Hen, are you voting in this poll?

I registered, but didn't bother to look how to actually vote.

[putter]

15. Liberty

Everything else looks great, but Liberty at 15?

Maybe a little high but they did just as well as Syracuse and East Carolina against W.Virginia and played well against JMU. Beat North Carolina Central by as much as App and beat Lafayette so I don't think it is horrible. I could have them below the Hens and maybe they will be if they lose to Coastal.

[weberwildcat]

15. Liberty

Everything else looks great, but Liberty at 15?

15th?

You should vote on how the team is performing not how good they could or can be. If I was to vote based on how good I thought a team was or could be or based on talent I'd have Weber State at #1. But voting on how they are actually playing I still don't have them in the top 15.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Hen, are you voting in this poll?

I registered, but didn't bother to look how to actually vote.

It's pretty easy Hen. Just go to this link and select the drop downs to place the teams in the spots you want them. Hope you can put a vote in next week.

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... ubmission/

You just have to make sure that you have an email address in there so they can contact you in case you leave one spot blank or something.

[89Hen]

Maybe a little high but they did just as well as Syracuse and East Carolina against W.Virginia and played well against JMU. Beat North Carolina Central by as much as App and beat Lafayette so I don't think it is horrible. I could have them below the Hens and maybe they will be if they lose to Coastal.

Hens are irrelevant in the convo. Liberty's marquis victory is Lafayette and the loss to JMU alone should knock them down in everyone's book.

[Grizo406]

Sorry, but I saw the thread title: "My Poll", posted by dback...I found that to be highly amusing!

Anyhoo...

1. Richmond
2. UNI
3. Montana
4. UNH
5. Southern Illinois
6. William & Mary
7. Elon
8. Villanova
9. Central Arkansas
10. ASU
11. WSU
12. South Dakota St.
13. South Carolina St.
14. JMU
15. Cal Poly
16. SFA
17. McNeese St.
18. EWU
19. NAU
20. Jacksonville St.
21. FU
22. UD
23. EKU
24. UMass
25. Albany

[AZGrizFan]

Hey AZGrizFan,

Your poll is the first one that I've seen that doesn't even include Jacksonville State. Is this an oversight or did you have some reason for being the only person I've seen that totally ignores them? Let's review their record:

game 1: vs FBS ranked GA Tech loss 37-17 (with their 2nd string QB)
game 2: vs FBS (preseason ranked-don't remember at time of game) FL State 19-9
with note FL State was behind until the last 35 seconds of the game
game 3: win AL A&M 45-13
game 4: win Nicholls State 60-10
game 5: win Univ of TN-Martin 52-7
game 6: win Murray State 41-7
QB Ryan Perriloux is ranked top in Passing Efficiency among both FBS and FCS teams

Just don't understand your rationale for not even putting them in the Top 25????

Sorry. They're just on my fringe....but beating up on that conference doesn't impress me much.

[OL FU]

1) UNI
2) Montana
3) New Hampshire
4) Richmond
5) Elon
6) SIU
7) Villanova
8) ASU
9) UCA
10) William & Mary
11) Weber State
12) SDSU
13) Delaware
14) Umass
15) Northern Arizona
16) Stephen F. Austin
17) Cal Poly
18) Montana State
19) McNeese State
20) Colgate
21) Youngstown State
22) Chattanooga
23) Albany
24) South Carolina State
25) Eastern Washington

Red teams new to my poll this week.

I'll ask the homer questions.

Chattanooga in and no Furman. Not that I think Furman should be in but the only difference between FU and Chatts record is that Chatt beat a DII school and FU lost to Missouri. Oh yeah and FU beat Chat by 18 points

[AZGrizFan]

1) UNI
2) Montana
3) New Hampshire
4) Richmond
5) Elon
6) SIU
7) Villanova
8) ASU
9) UCA
10) William & Mary
11) Weber State
12) SDSU
13) Delaware
14) Umass
15) Northern Arizona
16) Stephen F. Austin
17) Cal Poly
18) Montana State
19) McNeese State
20) Colgate
21) Youngstown State
22) Chattanooga
23) Albany
24) South Carolina State
25) Eastern Washington

Red teams new to my poll this week.

I'll ask the homer questions.

Chattanooga in and no Furman. Not that I think Furman should be in but the only difference between FU and Chatts record is that Chatt beat a DII school and FU lost to Missouri. Oh yeah and FU beat Chat by 18 points

They are also on my fringe. And in reality, should probably have been in over somebody like Albany or SC State.

[EWURanger]

My ballot

1. Richmond
2. New Hampshire
3. Villanova
4. William & Mary
5. Elon
6. Appalachian State
7. Northern Iowa
8. Southern Illinois
9. Delaware
10. Central Arkansas
11. Jacksonville State
12. Massachusetts
13. South Carolina State
14. James Madison
15. Stephen F Austin
16. Furman
17. Florida A&M
18. McNeese State
19. South Dakota State
20. Hofstra
21. Colgate
22. Montana
23. Maine
24. Harvard
25. Liberty

Dude, this is a joke, right?

[OL FU]

I'll ask the homer questions.

Chattanooga in and no Furman. Not that I think Furman should be in but the only difference between FU and Chatts record is that Chatt beat a DII school and FU lost to Missouri. Oh yeah and FU beat Chat by 18 points

They are also on my fringe. And in reality, should probably have been in over somebody like Albany or SC State.

I am not concerned with where Furman is, I am concerned with where Chattanooga is in relation to them

[wideright82]

My ballot

1. Richmond
2. New Hampshire
3. Villanova
4. William & Mary
5. Elon
6. Appalachian State
7. Northern Iowa
8. Southern Illinois
9. Delaware
10. Central Arkansas
11. Jacksonville State
12. Massachusetts
13. South Carolina State
14. James Madison
15. Stephen F Austin
16. Furman
17. Florida A&M
18. McNeese State
19. South Dakota State
20. Hofstra
21. Colgate
22. Montana
23. Maine
24. Harvard
25. Liberty

Dude, this is a joke, right?

Regardless of where the old Hen goes, he always gets someone with his Top 25 Poll gag.

[SeattleGriz]

Dude, this is a joke, right?

Regardless of where the old Hen goes, he always gets someone with his Top 25 Poll gag.

Classic!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Dude, this is a joke, right?

Regardless of where the old Hen goes, he always gets someone with his Top 25 Poll gag.

No doubt. When I started on AGS I just thought I'd sit back for a month or so to see what everyone's gimmick was and then start debating them. I was not nearly as entertaining as those that fall for it though.

[Mvemjsunpx]

You SERIOUSLY think Prairie View, Colgate and HC are better than EWU, Montana State and NAU? That anyone of those teams could hang with Montana?

Yep.

Colgate - Undefeated, outstanding running attack, decent passing game, improved defense over last year's PL champs. Greg Sullivan is one of the best dual-threat QBs in FCS.

Montana St. - Weber win now looks like a fluke. No real playmakers on offense other than arguably Mason. Suspect pass defense (gave up 400+ yards passing to Dixie State). Couldn't beat a dome team at home in 20 degree weather.

PVAMU - A little more speculative, but they beat Grambling & nearly beat New Mexico State. Grambling win makes them the de facto favorite to win the SWAC (Southern has been a disappointment & the East Division sucks).

EWU - Not sold on them after last week. Suspect defense, particularly with Zach Johnson missing the whole season. Can Taiwan Jones keep up the pace after a hot start?

Holy Cross - Similar team to EWU, but I think Randolph is a better QB than Nichols. Brown loss was surprising (HC beat Harvard & Harvard beat Brown), but they're good enough to beat Colgate & win the PL.

NAU - Herrick has been a surprise, but the pass defense has been almost nonexistent. They're quite lucky they're up against Kavanaugh & not Hubel this week. I think they played a little above their station against Montana.

[dbackjon]

Colgate. Easy to put up stats when you are playing the 91st, 56th, 96th, 79th, 62nd and 94th worst teams in FCS.

Gotta look at who they are playing.

[guinzone]

I have Northern Iowa #1 and the rest of the teams as followed:

[dbackjon]

Good lord. NAU needs to schedule like Colgate.

[JMU DJ]

Good lord. NAU needs to schedule like Colgate.

Maybe if this CS poll came out quicker, your panties wouldn't get twisted so tight. I say this assuming that the CS poll will have NAU around where I put them in the top 20. Seeing as the CS poll is now known as the the DJ poll.

[dbackjon]

Good lord. NAU needs to schedule like Colgate.

Maybe if this CS poll came out quicker, your panties wouldn't get twisted so tight. I say this assuming that the CS poll will have NAU around where I put them in the top 20. Seeing as the CS poll is now known as the the DJ poll.

[native]

...As for NAU vs other Big Sky? Still a toss up, IMHO - especially 2-5. NAU beat MSU who beat Weber who beat EWU. Those are the only games involving those 4 teams. Only NAU has played Montana so far, and did quite well. Plenty of time to sort that out.

We have to wait til 14 November for a showdown between the Lumberjacks and the Wildcats in Ogden, and the 'jacks don't host the Eagles until the final game of the regular season.

Meanwhile the Eagles host the Bobcats on 24 October and Weber heads to Missoula on Halloween, but the Bobcats don't host the Griz until the final game of the regular season.

[native]

You SERIOUSLY think Prairie View, Colgate and HC are better than EWU, Montana State and NAU? That anyone of those teams could hang with Montana?

Yep.

Colgate - Undefeated, outstanding running attack, decent passing game, improved defense over last year's PL champs. Greg Sullivan is one of the best dual-threat QBs in FCS.

Montana St. - Weber win now looks like a fluke. No real playmakers on offense other than arguably Mason. Suspect pass defense (gave up 400+ yards passing to Dixie State). Couldn't beat a dome team at home in 20 degree weather.

PVAMU - A little more speculative, but they beat Grambling & nearly beat New Mexico State. Grambling win makes them the de facto favorite to win the SWAC (Southern has been a disappointment & the East Division sucks).

EWU - Not sold on them after last week. Suspect defense, particularly with Zach Johnson missing the whole season. Can Taiwan Jones keep up the pace after a hot start?

Holy Cross - Similar team to EWU, but I think Randolph is a better QB than Nichols. Brown loss was surprising (HC beat Harvard & Harvard beat Brown), but they're good enough to beat Colgate & win the PL.

NAU - Herrick has been a surprise, but the pass defense has been almost nonexistent. They're quite lucky they're up against Kavanaugh & not Hubel this week. I think they played a little above their station against Montana.

GPI rankings as of 12 October:

17 Northern Arizona
21 Eastern Washington
26 Montana State
27 Colgate
37 Holy Cross
47 Prairie View

[Mvemjsunpx]

GPI rankings as of 12 October:

17 Northern Arizona
21 Eastern Washington
26 Montana State
27 Colgate
37 Holy Cross
47 Prairie View

Uh, good for the GPI? I've never put much stock in that or most of the things that go into it. The GPI also has North Dakota 28th. Would anyone seriously put the Sioux that high? It additionally has dismal Idaho State above teams with winning records just because they played Oklahoma & Arizona State (does anyone think ISU is better than Dayton or Old Dominion?). Also odd is that a western football fan would use the GPI when it has 6 CAA teams in the top 12.

Half of the GPI is poll rankings. The rest is computer rankings. Computer rankings are good for college basketball where everyone plays 30 games, but college football doesn't have enough games or—in particular—enough games against comparable non-conference opponents to get any sort of accurate picture.