MAQA Civil War

[UNI88]

Random guy on internet who claimed to have voted for Trump 3x. Could just as easily be TDSer from Blueskie who is making shit up for clicks..

Still has a point about the no more foreign wars lie.

And you're delusional if you think the Iran War has hasn't caused fractures and loss of support within MAQA.

[Caribbean Hen]

Could it be that after Itan tried to blow Trump‘s head off two or three times that actually doing something about this spoiled terrible regime country became more in focus?

It’s pretty dim to argue that a president doesn’t have a right to change his mind. Times change.

[kalm]

Could it be that after Itan tried to blow Trump‘s head off two or three times that actually doing something about this spoiled terrible regime country became more in focus?

It’s pretty dim to argue that a president doesn’t have a right to change his mind. Times change.

That’s the story now?

[UNI88]

Could it be that after Itan tried to blow Trump‘s head off two or three times that actually doing something about this spoiled terrible regime country became more in focus?

It’s pretty dim to argue that a president doesn’t have a right to change his mind. Times change.

That’s the story now?

trump, ever the beta cuck victim is a compelling storyline.

[Caribbean Hen]

That’s the story now?

trump, ever the beta cuck victim is a compelling storyline.

So you’re saying it’s a possibility

[UNI88]

trump, ever the beta cuck victim is a compelling storyline.

So you’re saying it’s a possibility

I'd say it's significantly more than a possibility that trump is a beta cuck victim of his own delusions of martyrdom.

[kalm]

I’m not holding my breath but still…

Also Epstein…

[UNI88]

MAGA Exiles Flock to Support Group Citing Trump ‘Lies’

Rich Logis, founder of the nonprofit Leaving MAGA, said his organization is experiencing “record-high” fundraising and seeing “more who are having doubts than ever before.”

He rattled off the reasons defectors give, saying: “The Epstein files. Tariffs. Deaths at the hands of federal immigration enforcement agents. Skyrocketing gas prices. The slashing of federal jobs. A ‘war of choice’ in Iran.”
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“Right now, in MAGA, one of the reasons I think there are more people who are having doubts and are confused and are questioning their belief system,” Logis told Raw Story, “is because the president has very clearly not kept a lot of his promises.”

[UNI88]

Who is unhinged?

[UNI88]

Trump lied. He rugpulled us all. I didn’t vote for Lindsey Graham / America Second policies.

You can disagree with me if you want. It’s your right to be fooled. But if you say I have “TDS” or am a “liberal” you need a new argument. There are millions of conservatives and members of the now torched “broad coalition” just like me.

The only ones left supporting him are MAGA always Trumpers who place the man above the policies and our country.

[UNI88]

Sudden GOP infighting explodes over bipartisan immigration reform bill

The bill in question, the Dignity Act, is not new and has little chance of getting a vote in this Congress. But pent-up frustration from conservatives over President Trump delivering on mass deportations and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) shutdown turned into a pile-on over the bill.

It’s also highlighting the division between moderate Republicans aiming to combat a decline in support for the GOP among the Hispanic and Latino voters who helped propel the party to victory in 2024, and hard-liners who argue the bill would be a betrayal of promises made to voters.
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Salazar shot back by noting the GOP’s decline in support among Hispanic voters in the 2025 elections: “PRESIDENT TRUMP didn’t win by shrinking the tent. He EXPANDED it. That’s how you build a coalition.”
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Lawler returned to the network on Laura Ingraham’s show a few days later for what the host said from the top would “not be a fun interview.”

“The border was the biggest problem. President Trump ran and won on that issue. He said he would stop illegal immigration into the country. He has effectively done that,” Lawler said. “Secondarily, is to deal with the undocumented that are in this country. Get them out of the shadows.”
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David Bier, director of immigration studies at the libertarian think tank the Cato Institute, was surprised by the amount of backlash suddenly generated against the bill — but he also saw it as exposing a rift in the party as polling shows the public turning against Trump’s hard-line immigration enforcement.

“It’s about putting pressure on the president to continue down the same path that [White House deputy chief of staff] Stephen Miller wants them to be on. I think the messaging right now going into the midterms is that immigration policy is a liability and that they need to soften on this. And of course, the right wing is not enthusiastic about that,” Bier said.

Salazar and Lawler are both up for reelection in competitive districts Democrats hope to flip. And Salazar’s district includes a high population of Latino voters, who polling also shows are moving away from Trump.

Members from safe districts, on the other hand, are “more interested in signaling to their base that they’re fighting for mass deportation,” Bier said. “I think there’s even a part of the right wing that would want to see these members lose, so the party is pure on the issue.”
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Plus, advocates for the bill say Trump is not as staunchly anti-legal status as many of the conservatives. Trump told The New York Times in January that some industries still need immigrant labor, and he said he would “love to be able to create an immigration policy that works for everyone” and have “a comprehensive immigration policy,” “possibly” including a path to citizenship for migrants without legal status.

[BDKJMU]

Sudden GOP infighting explodes over bipartisan immigration reform bill

The bill in question, the Dignity Act, is not new and has little chance of getting a vote in this Congress. But pent-up frustration from conservatives over President Trump delivering on mass deportations and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) shutdown turned into a pile-on over the bill.

It’s also highlighting the division between moderate Republicans aiming to combat a decline in support for the GOP among the Hispanic and Latino voters who helped propel the party to victory in 2024, and hard-liners who argue the bill would be a betrayal of promises made to voters.
...
Salazar shot back by noting the GOP’s decline in support among Hispanic voters in the 2025 elections: “PRESIDENT TRUMP didn’t win by shrinking the tent. He EXPANDED it. That’s how you build a coalition.”
...
Lawler returned to the network on Laura Ingraham’s show a few days later for what the host said from the top would “not be a fun interview.”

“The border was the biggest problem. President Trump ran and won on that issue. He said he would stop illegal immigration into the country. He has effectively done that,” Lawler said. “Secondarily, is to deal with the undocumented that are in this country. Get them out of the shadows.”
...
David Bier, director of immigration studies at the libertarian think tank the Cato Institute, was surprised by the amount of backlash suddenly generated against the bill — but he also saw it as exposing a rift in the party as polling shows the public turning against Trump’s hard-line immigration enforcement.

“It’s about putting pressure on the president to continue down the same path that [White House deputy chief of staff] Stephen Miller wants them to be on. I think the messaging right now going into the midterms is that immigration policy is a liability and that they need to soften on this. And of course, the right wing is not enthusiastic about that,” Bier said.

Salazar and Lawler are both up for reelection in competitive districts Democrats hope to flip. And Salazar’s district includes a high population of Latino voters, who polling also shows are moving away from Trump.

Members from safe districts, on the other hand, are “more interested in signaling to their base that they’re fighting for mass deportation,” Bier said. “I think there’s even a part of the right wing that would want to see these members lose, so the party is pure on the issue.”
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Plus, advocates for the bill say Trump is not as staunchly anti-legal status as many of the conservatives. Trump told The New York Times in January that some industries still need immigrant labor, and he said he would “love to be able to create an immigration policy that works for everyone” and have “a comprehensive immigration policy,” “possibly” including a path to citizenship for migrants without legal status.

Lawl 19 center left and/or libertarian (ie open borders) republicans (7% of Conks in Congress) signing onto Amnesty bill doesn’t make it bipartisan. And anyone who uses the term ‘undocumented’ as Lawler did is either center left, or open borders libertarian.

There’s been an amnesty bill proposed every couple of years going back to the early 2000s.
And every time the likes of the libertarian, open borders Cato Institute, have been saying the same thing for every election- that the conks were going to be hurt by not signing onto an amnesty bill. And they’ve been wrong every time. And it’s no more of a MAGA or conk civil war than it has been every time one of these bills has been proposed.

[kalm]