Trump 2.0: MAGAA

[GannonFan]

That’s because the ‘We got to do something‘ stupidity of politicians wasn‘t limited to the US.

Without Covid .9 trillion Covid relief bill 2 (Trump) and 1.9 Covid relief bill 3 (Biden) + another 4-5 trillion or so profligate spending under Biden (so called Infrastructure, inflation creation Act, Ukraine, etc, etc) from the Magic $$$ Trees in DC we wouldn‘t have had hardly any inflation. Newsflash:
-If you give most families of 4 four three rounds of 11.6k in $$$ (3.8k per adult, 2.5k per child) for doing nothing.
-Pay people extended enhanced unemployment for up to 1.5 years to sit on their ass.
You create inflation because
-Cause labor shortage’s.
-Increase labor costs.
-Too much $$$ chasing too few goods.
All of which increases inflation.
Then wait for a full year to start to increase interest rates to tamp down the inflation (while never turning off the $$$ spigots) you kill the housing market.

It’s how we got through WWII debt and inflation. Covid was uncharted territory. There was no formula for how to survive it economically. Plus, that spending on people increased demand.

That's comparing apples to rocket ships. WWII had a purpose, i.e. defeating Nazi Germany and Japan. We did that. And much of the world that produced things before the war (i.e. Europe) was destroyed. So we could spend what we did and then we had the luxury of a world without competition for a large part of the next decade. And even then we still had issues with recessions and winding things back down, but we could do it in a very amenable world-wide situation. It made coming out of the Great Depression, which we had struggled with and not really accomplished in the late '30's, possible.

COVID was literally turning the switch off on a good economy and then, a few months later (and it was later than it should've been turned back on), we flipped the switch back on. There was nothing systematically wrong with the economy before COVID, so the economy after COVID started from a good foundation as well. Biden's significant error economically, and what really sunk his Presidency in total, was trying to pretend that COVID was something bigger than it was economically and using it then as cover to trial out Modern Monetary Theory (i.e. unlimited government spending leads to unlimited benefits for all) on a macro scale. Obviously, it failed, and failed massively through runaway inflation. Yes, the spending on people increased demand, but it increased it so quickly, without also being able to increase the supply, that simple economics predicted the huge spike in inflation that followed (too much money chasing too few things ALWAYS results in higher prices, i.e. inflation). Inflation is almost always a money supply issue and that was borne out with Biden's massive fiasco.

[kalm]

It’s how we got through WWII debt and inflation. Covid was uncharted territory. There was no formula for how to survive it economically. Plus, that spending on people increased demand.

That's comparing apples to rocket ships. WWII had a purpose, i.e. defeating Nazi Germany and Japan. We did that. And much of the world that produced things before the war (i.e. Europe) was destroyed. So we could spend what we did and then we had the luxury of a world without competition for a large part of the next decade. And even then we still had issues with recessions and winding things back down, but we could do it in a very amenable world-wide situation. It made coming out of the Great Depression, which we had struggled with and not really accomplished in the late '30's, possible.

COVID was literally turning the switch off on a good economy and then, a few months later (and it was later than it should've been turned back on), we flipped the switch back on. There was nothing systematically wrong with the economy before COVID, so the economy after COVID started from a good foundation as well. Biden's significant error economically, and what really sunk his Presidency in total, was trying to pretend that COVID was something bigger than it was economically and using it then as cover to trial out Modern Monetary Theory (i.e. unlimited government spending leads to unlimited benefits for all) on a macro scale. Obviously, it failed, and failed massively through runaway inflation. Yes, the spending on people increased demand, but it increased it so quickly, without also being able to increase the supply, that simple economics predicted the huge spike in inflation that followed (too much money chasing too few things ALWAYS results in higher prices, i.e. inflation). Inflation is almost always a money supply issue and that was borne out with Biden's massive fiasco.

You and I are simply not going to agree on the threat and impact of Covid. The disagreement is mostly going to settle on risk aversion. There was a threat, economically and Epidemiologically. It’s a matter of opinion when the appropriate time to open back up was.

[UNI88]

That's comparing apples to rocket ships. WWII had a purpose, i.e. defeating Nazi Germany and Japan. We did that. And much of the world that produced things before the war (i.e. Europe) was destroyed. So we could spend what we did and then we had the luxury of a world without competition for a large part of the next decade. And even then we still had issues with recessions and winding things back down, but we could do it in a very amenable world-wide situation. It made coming out of the Great Depression, which we had struggled with and not really accomplished in the late '30's, possible.

COVID was literally turning the switch off on a good economy and then, a few months later (and it was later than it should've been turned back on), we flipped the switch back on. There was nothing systematically wrong with the economy before COVID, so the economy after COVID started from a good foundation as well. Biden's significant error economically, and what really sunk his Presidency in total, was trying to pretend that COVID was something bigger than it was economically and using it then as cover to trial out Modern Monetary Theory (i.e. unlimited government spending leads to unlimited benefits for all) on a macro scale. Obviously, it failed, and failed massively through runaway inflation. Yes, the spending on people increased demand, but it increased it so quickly, without also being able to increase the supply, that simple economics predicted the huge spike in inflation that followed (too much money chasing too few things ALWAYS results in higher prices, i.e. inflation). Inflation is almost always a money supply issue and that was borne out with Biden's massive fiasco.

You and I are simply not going to agree on the threat and impact of Covid. The disagreement is mostly going to settle on risk aversion. There was a threat, economically and Epidemiologically. It’s a matter of opinion when the appropriate time to open back up was.

It's also a debate about once the decision to open back up was made should we have continued to throw money at a problem that appeared to be going away?

[UNI88]

Trump’s shutdown win just landed Republicans with a huge political headache

Trump’s off-the-cuff answer was a typical example of the waffle he sometimes conjures to escape a jam in a photo-op. But he could not disguise the downside of his “win” in the government shutdown, which looks set to end after Democrats failed to secure their top demand: the extension of those enhanced Obamacare subsidies.

Trump and Republicans once again own the issue of health care, with millions of citizens — not just those on ACA plans — afflicted by rising premiums and high deductibles against the backdrop of a wider cost-of-living crisis. And just as in his first term, Trump lacks a comprehensive, detailed plan to bring relief to citizens who lack health care, who can’t afford the plans they have or who know that the loss of a job could leave them without any coverage at all.

If the GOP cannot fix the immediate issue of the subsidies — and convince voters they have a serious solution to this and other affordability questions — their 2026 midterm election hopes could take a dive.

Trump’s fogginess on health care is nothing new. Repeated unfulfilled promises to act took their place alongside his much-lampooned “infrastructure weeks” as punch lines in his first term. Trump’s pledges to replace Obamacare shimmered with hyperbole but delivered nothing, and the 2010 law survives despite multiple Republican efforts to destroy it.

I hear he has the concepts of a plan.

[Skjellyfetti]

I hear he has the concepts of a plan.

[Caribbean Hen]

Join the military or that one service that’s under DHS

Health care problem solved

[UNI88]

Join the military or that one service that’s under DHS

Health care problem solved

You get to wear a mask, beat the fvck out of people - immigrant or citizen, guilty or innocent, pastor or parishioner, makes no difference - ram their cars, break their car windows, tear gas them, shoot them with pepper balls, pound the snot of them and then accuse them of assaulting you.

Cool stuff!

[Caribbean Hen]

Join the military or that one service that’s under DHS

Health care problem solved

You get to wear a mask, beat the fvck out of people - immigrant or citizen, guilty or innocent, pastor or parishioner, makes no difference - ram their cars, break their car windows, tear gas them, shoot them with pepper balls, pound the snot of them and then accuse them of assaulting you.

Cool stuff!

What the heck are you talking about?

ICE? They are not a military service

[BDKJMU]

Trump’s shutdown win just landed Republicans with a huge political headache

Trump’s off-the-cuff answer was a typical example of the waffle he sometimes conjures to escape a jam in a photo-op. But he could not disguise the downside of his “win” in the government shutdown, which looks set to end after Democrats failed to secure their top demand: the extension of those enhanced Obamacare subsidies.

Trump and Republicans once again own the issue of health care, with millions of citizens — not just those on ACA plans — afflicted by rising premiums and high deductibles against the backdrop of a wider cost-of-living crisis. And just as in his first term, Trump lacks a comprehensive, detailed plan to bring relief to citizens who lack health care, who can’t afford the plans they have or who know that the loss of a job could leave them without any coverage at all.

If the GOP cannot fix the immediate issue of the subsidies — and convince voters they have a serious solution to this and other affordability questions — their 2026 midterm election hopes could take a dive.

Trump’s fogginess on health care is nothing new. Repeated unfulfilled promises to act took their place alongside his much-lampooned “infrastructure weeks” as punch lines in his first term. Trump’s pledges to replace Obamacare shimmered with hyperbole but delivered nothing, and the 2010 law survives despite multiple Republican efforts to destroy it.

I hear he has the concepts of a plan.

The democrats own Obamacare. Passed in 2009 without a single republican vote Senate or House. Remember how it was suppose to make health insurance cheaper?

Democrat plan: Hey let’s just just give those evil insurance companies more billions by way of ACA subsidies.

[Caribbean Hen]

Trump’s shutdown win just landed Republicans with a huge political headache



I hear he has the concepts of a plan.

The democrats own Obamacare. Passed in 2009 without a single republican vote Senate or House. Remember how it was suppose to make health insurance cheaper?

Democrat plan: Hey let’s just just give those evil insurance companies more billions by way of ACA subsidies.

And they all looked to Trump to fix their stupid times

[UNI88]

The democrats own Obamacare. Passed in 2009 without a single republican vote Senate or House. Remember how it was suppose to make health insurance cheaper?

Democrat plan: Hey let’s just just give those evil insurance companies more billions by way of ACA subsidies.

And they all looked to Trump to fix their stupid times

And trump has said repeatedly that he could so now it's up to him and Republicans to provide the better plan (i.e. better coverage) that costs people less that he promised. He owns that.

[GannonFan]

Trump’s shutdown win just landed Republicans with a huge political headache



I hear he has the concepts of a plan.

The democrats own Obamacare. Passed in 2009 without a single republican vote Senate or House. Remember how it was suppose to make health insurance cheaper?

Democrat plan: Hey let’s just just give those evil insurance companies more billions by way of ACA subsidies.

Regardless of how we got here, we're here now. What is the plan the Republicans have for going forward for how health care will be delivered in this country? Government doesn't need to be the one directly handling it, but government has to at least set up the groundwork for the rules and setting for where this happens in the public sphere. Republicans will be graded on that.

[BDKJMU]

2 weeks after Trump visits Japan..

Toyota opens massive North Carolina battery plant, confirms $10B US investment
Battery plant located in North Carolina expected to create over 5,000 new jobs

Toyota announced Wednesday it has officially begun production at its new $13.9 billion battery manufacturing plant in North Carolina, while committing an additional $10 billion to bolster its U.S. manufacturing over the next five years.

The 1,850-acre facility in Liberty, North Carolina, marks the automaker's first battery plant outside Japan and is expected to create up to 5,100 new American jobs, Toyota said…..

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/toy ... investment

[UNI88]

2 weeks after Trump visits Japan..

Toyota opens massive North Carolina battery plant, confirms $10B US investment
Battery plant located in North Carolina expected to create over 5,000 new jobs

Toyota announced Wednesday it has officially begun production at its new $13.9 billion battery manufacturing plant in North Carolina, while committing an additional $10 billion to bolster its U.S. manufacturing over the next five years.

The 1,850-acre facility in Liberty, North Carolina, marks the automaker's first battery plant outside Japan and is expected to create up to 5,100 new American jobs, Toyota said…..

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/toy ... investment

They got the permits and started building in just 2 weeks? Amazing.

Almost as amazing as stopping 8 almost 9 wars.

[kalm]

2 weeks after Trump visits Japan..


https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/toy ... investment

They got the permits and started building in just 2 weeks? Amazing.

Almost as amazing as stopping 8 almost 9 wars.

Well the Japanese ARE known for their efficiency.

[UNI88]

They got the permits and started building in just 2 weeks? Amazing.

Almost as amazing as stopping 8 almost 9 wars.

Well the Japanese ARE known for their efficiency.

At this rate, he'll have Obamacare replaced with trumpCare by Tuesday.

[kalm]

Well the Japanese ARE known for their efficiency.

At this rate, he'll have Obamacare replaced with trumpCare by Tuesday.

Cut that red tape, baby!

[Caribbean Hen]

That's comparing apples to rocket ships. WWII had a purpose, i.e. defeating Nazi Germany and Japan. We did that. And much of the world that produced things before the war (i.e. Europe) was destroyed. So we could spend what we did and then we had the luxury of a world without competition for a large part of the next decade. And even then we still had issues with recessions and winding things back down, but we could do it in a very amenable world-wide situation. It made coming out of the Great Depression, which we had struggled with and not really accomplished in the late '30's, possible.

COVID was literally turning the switch off on a good economy and then, a few months later (and it was later than it should've been turned back on), we flipped the switch back on. There was nothing systematically wrong with the economy before COVID, so the economy after COVID started from a good foundation as well. Biden's significant error economically, and what really sunk his Presidency in total, was trying to pretend that COVID was something bigger than it was economically and using it then as cover to trial out Modern Monetary Theory (i.e. unlimited government spending leads to unlimited benefits for all) on a macro scale. Obviously, it failed, and failed massively through runaway inflation. Yes, the spending on people increased demand, but it increased it so quickly, without also being able to increase the supply, that simple economics predicted the huge spike in inflation that followed (too much money chasing too few things ALWAYS results in higher prices, i.e. inflation). Inflation is almost always a money supply issue and that was borne out with Biden's massive fiasco.

You and I are simply not going to agree on the threat and impact of Covid. The disagreement is mostly going to settle on risk aversion. There was a threat, economically and Epidemiologically. It’s a matter of opinion when the appropriate time to open back up was.

The government reaction was the economic threat, not Covid

[BDKJMU]

You and I are simply not going to agree on the threat and impact of Covid. The disagreement is mostly going to settle on risk aversion. There was a threat, economically and Epidemiologically. It’s a matter of opinion when the appropriate time to open back up was.

The government reaction was the economic threat, not Covid

+1

[kalm]

You and I are simply not going to agree on the threat and impact of Covid. The disagreement is mostly going to settle on risk aversion. There was a threat, economically and Epidemiologically. It’s a matter of opinion when the appropriate time to open back up was.

The government reaction was the economic threat, not Covid

Oh boy. And it was just the flu too amirite?

[UNI88]

The government reaction was the economic threat, not Covid

+1

I disagree. We were dealing with a pandemic the likes of which we hadn't seen in the modern era so the initial government reaction was somewhat justified. Was Fauxi a fraud? IMO, yes. Based on what we knew about viruses and what we learned as the pandemic went on, did the government overreact and keep us locked down for too long? IMO, yes. Was trump's final bailout and biden's continued printing of money stupid? Absolutely.

Was Covid part of some insidious plot to get trump? No, only a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory whackadoodle believes that.

[Caribbean Hen]

They got the permits and started building in just 2 weeks? Amazing.

Almost as amazing as stopping 8 almost 9 wars.

Well the Japanese ARE known for their efficiency.

That’s racist

[UNI88]

Jiminy Crickets, he's turning the county into a stock car covered in tacky trump stickers.

Is there a bigger narcissistic twat on the planet?

[BDKJMU]

Jiminy Crickets, he's turning the county into a stock car covered in tacky trump stickers.

Is there a bigger narcissistic twat on the planet?

Thanks. Going to get me some.

[UNI88]

Jiminy Crickets, he's turning the county into a stock car covered in tacky trump stickers.

Is there a bigger narcissistic twat on the planet?

Thanks. Going to get me some.

When you flip one it will always come up tails (ass up).