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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:38 pm
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They’re not doing their job
I agree. They need to expose Trump and his minions like Miller and Vought way more than they have.
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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:53 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:38 pm

They’re not doing their job
I agree. They need to expose Trump and his minions like Miller and Vought way more than they have.
Rachel keeps trying and she keeps striking out
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:44 am
kalm wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:53 pm

I agree. They need to expose Trump and his minions like Miller and Vought way more than they have.
Rachel keeps trying and she keeps striking out
She does fine with her reporting. The platform is in decline and Fox has several shows more popular but the reach is getting smaller across the board.

However, conservative influencers have a larger viewership as well.

Of course none of this should be extremely partisan one it is. Non-biased reporting should highlight the illegality and direction this country is heading regardless of affiliation. We’re just too propagandized and lacking in critical thinking to be accurately informed.
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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 7:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 4:44 am

Rachel keeps trying and she keeps striking out
She does fine with her reporting. The platform is in decline and Fox has several shows more popular but the reach is getting smaller across the board.

However, conservative influencers have a larger viewership as well.

Of course none of this should be extremely partisan one it is. Non-biased reporting should highlight the illegality and direction this country is heading regardless of affiliation. We’re just too propagandized and lacking in critical thinking to be accurately informed.
It's hard to do that when so many, Rachel included, turned a blind-eye to the illegality and direction of many of the things that went on during the Biden administration. People did notice that the media knew things but didn't want to report on them for fear of upsetting the current government or giving air to a Trump resurgence. COVID really exposed the untrusted state of journalism and government in this country, and the years that led out of that, including the years we're in now with Trump v2, haven't done any better yet in fixing that distrust.
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Re: 2025/2026 Elections Congressional & State

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GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:05 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 7:56 am
She does fine with her reporting. The platform is in decline and Fox has several shows more popular but the reach is getting smaller across the board.

However, conservative influencers have a larger viewership as well.

Of course none of this should be extremely partisan one it is. Non-biased reporting should highlight the illegality and direction this country is heading regardless of affiliation. We’re just too propagandized and lacking in critical thinking to be accurately informed.
It's hard to do that when so many, Rachel included, turned a blind-eye to the illegality and direction of many of the things that went on during the Biden administration. People did notice that the media knew things but didn't want to report on them for fear of upsetting the current government or giving air to a Trump resurgence. COVID really exposed the untrusted state of journalism and government in this country, and the years that led out of that, including the years we're in now with Trump v2, haven't done any better yet in fixing that distrust.
:nod:

The unfortunate thing is that many people turned to even less credible sources/influencers when the media lost credibility during biden's administration. MAQA yahoos began turning to these less credible sources/influencers in droves a decade or more ago.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:14 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:05 am

It's hard to do that when so many, Rachel included, turned a blind-eye to the illegality and direction of many of the things that went on during the Biden administration. People did notice that the media knew things but didn't want to report on them for fear of upsetting the current government or giving air to a Trump resurgence. COVID really exposed the untrusted state of journalism and government in this country, and the years that led out of that, including the years we're in now with Trump v2, haven't done any better yet in fixing that distrust.
:nod:

The unfortunate thing is that many people turned to even less credible sources/influencers when the media lost credibility during biden's administration. MAQA yahoos began turning to these less credible sources/influencers in droves a decade or more ago.
Absolutely. This has been a growing concern going back to the internet starting to be on the scene in the mid 90's. All of a sudden, anybody and everybody started to have a voice or a say in everything. And let's be honest, having that kind of crowd-sourcing base for things does not ever guarantee that we get honest or factual reporting, on the contrary, we're likely to get what we see now, people siloed and partitioned to only listen to one type of source without any real critical thinking about that source. Both sides of the aisle now where maybe, as you say, the right veered off earlier than the left, but they're both consuming crappy journalism now. It is the stupid times indeed.
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Re: 2025/2026 Elections Congressional & State

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GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:24 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:14 am

:nod:

The unfortunate thing is that many people turned to even less credible sources/influencers when the media lost credibility during biden's administration. MAQA yahoos began turning to these less credible sources/influencers in droves a decade or more ago.
Absolutely. This has been a growing concern going back to the internet starting to be on the scene in the mid 90's. All of a sudden, anybody and everybody started to have a voice or a say in everything. And let's be honest, having that kind of crowd-sourcing base for things does not ever guarantee that we get honest or factual reporting, on the contrary, we're likely to get what we see now, people siloed and partitioned to only listen to one type of source without any real critical thinking about that source. Both sides of the aisle now where maybe, as you say, the right veered off earlier than the left, but they're both consuming crappy journalism now. It is the stupid times indeed.
:nod:

Great analysis here. So how do we fix it? Education? That too has been corrupted and carries a certain degree of distrust.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:24 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:14 am

:nod:

The unfortunate thing is that many people turned to even less credible sources/influencers when the media lost credibility during biden's administration. MAQA yahoos began turning to these less credible sources/influencers in droves a decade or more ago.
Absolutely. This has been a growing concern going back to the internet starting to be on the scene in the mid 90's. All of a sudden, anybody and everybody started to have a voice or a say in everything. And let's be honest, having that kind of crowd-sourcing base for things does not ever guarantee that we get honest or factual reporting, on the contrary, we're likely to get what we see now, people siloed and partitioned to only listen to one type of source without any real critical thinking about that source. Both sides of the aisle now where maybe, as you say, the right veered off earlier than the left, but they're both consuming crappy journalism now. It is the stupid times indeed.
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Thread from AGS started 5 years ago

It was 2015 when the media ran with the Russia Russia, Russia scam. It was never the right veered early. It was the media had become extremely left-leaning. A big port list.

What has happened to the media?
November 10, 2020, 10:09 AM
How long can this country continue when half the population gets no representation in the media?

You can bet they want to pack the courts and eliminate the electoral college

And who knows what else

Article is one year old but more relevant than ever


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Re: 2025/2026 Elections Congressional & State

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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:58 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:24 am

Absolutely. This has been a growing concern going back to the internet starting to be on the scene in the mid 90's. All of a sudden, anybody and everybody started to have a voice or a say in everything. And let's be honest, having that kind of crowd-sourcing base for things does not ever guarantee that we get honest or factual reporting, on the contrary, we're likely to get what we see now, people siloed and partitioned to only listen to one type of source without any real critical thinking about that source. Both sides of the aisle now where maybe, as you say, the right veered off earlier than the left, but they're both consuming crappy journalism now. It is the stupid times indeed.
:nod:

Great analysis here. So how do we fix it? Education? That too has been corrupted and carries a certain degree of distrust.
To some extent, we wait it out. Trump can't live forever, and regardless, he's out of government come January 2029 at the latest. It gives us a chance, in the 2028 elections, to vote for a rational and serious candidate, rather than a populist saber-waving one. Even if it's JD Vance or Pete Buttigieg (or Shapiro), the temperature in the room will come down several degrees just having it not be Trump. It would be useful, too, to just have the government flat out stop lying about so many things. From Hunter's laptop (so many former government folks swearing it was a fake story even though they knew it was legit), to COVID (whether it came from the Chinese lab or not, just the fact that we had a government official like Fauci in place, who profited personally from that lab and clearly took steps to shield that lab from investigation at the outset of the pandemic was at a minimum incredibly suspicious), to inflation (pretending it wasn't happening and then trying to explain that runaway government spending had no impact on it), to the White House ballroom (first it wasn't going to infringe on the existing building at all, and then we knock down an entire wing of the building with no comment), people have gotten way to used to government just flat out lying. Hopefully, whoever steps in in 2029, they at least stop lying so often.

Outside of that, rebuilding trust in journalism would be great. Having that person take over CBS News is a good start. You can't have 90% of the national, mainstream media, belong to and advocate for one political party at the exclusion and derision of the other. Especially in an era where journalism has been taught, in the universities, to move away from objective reporting of the news to now be interpreting and shaping the news. People feel lied to when that happens and trust in journalism craters.

So no easy fixes, but moving on from the loudest voices in the room today (Trump now, for instance) will be helpful.
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Re: 2025/2026 Elections Congressional & State

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:14 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:05 am

It's hard to do that when so many, Rachel included, turned a blind-eye to the illegality and direction of many of the things that went on during the Biden administration. People did notice that the media knew things but didn't want to report on them for fear of upsetting the current government or giving air to a Trump resurgence. COVID really exposed the untrusted state of journalism and government in this country, and the years that led out of that, including the years we're in now with Trump v2, haven't done any better yet in fixing that distrust.
:nod:

The unfortunate thing is that many people turned to even less credible sources/influencers when the media lost credibility during biden's administration. MAQA yahoos began turning to these less credible sources/influencers in droves a decade or more ago.
If you believe the media loss credibility during the Biden administration you need to get outside more
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houndawg wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:25 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:24 am

Absolutely. This has been a growing concern going back to the internet starting to be on the scene in the mid 90's. All of a sudden, anybody and everybody started to have a voice or a say in everything. And let's be honest, having that kind of crowd-sourcing base for things does not ever guarantee that we get honest or factual reporting, on the contrary, we're likely to get what we see now, people siloed and partitioned to only listen to one type of source without any real critical thinking about that source. Both sides of the aisle now where maybe, as you say, the right veered off earlier than the left, but they're both consuming crappy journalism now. It is the stupid times indeed.
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CU was GAME OVER for America.

Its no coincidence that the Proud Boys and their associated scum waited until the WW2 generation passed before they started their torchlight parades.
Citizens United was 2010. This all started happening 15 years before that decision came down. Even the Tea Party movement predated that. Citizens United was just one mile marker on the road, and given how destructive the two political parties have been anyway, not even an important mile marker. Given how political parties have bent the laws and even the truth for their own gains when they have held the reins of power, would things be any different if Citizens United didn't exist? Not really.
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Re: 2025/2026 Elections Congressional & State

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:33 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:14 am
:nod:

The unfortunate thing is that many people turned to even less credible sources/influencers when the media lost credibility during biden's administration. MAQA yahoos began turning to these less credible sources/influencers in droves a decade or more ago.
If you believe the media loss credibility during the Biden administration you need to get outside more
I was referring to rational people not MAQA yahoos who believe in qanon, Jewish space lasers and donald trump as their lord and savior.

The media really lost credibility with rational people in the lead up to the 2020 election (burying the hunter laptop) and during the biden administration (not reporting on his obviously declining health).
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Paging Nurse Ratchet to CS

Nurse ratchet please report to CS to administer the daily dose of TDS medication..

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The only temperatures in the room that will come down are the fevers that TDS is causing
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:40 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:33 am

If you believe the media loss credibility during the Biden administration you need to get outside more
I was referring to rational people not MAQA yahoos who believe in qanon, Jewish space lasers and donald trump as their lord and savior.

The media really lost credibility with rational people in the lead up to the 2020 election (burying the hunter laptop) and during the biden administration (not reporting on his obviously declining health).
The media lost credibility with sharp people long before that
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:37 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:25 am

Brought to you by Citizens United. As prophesied here some dozen years ago.

CU was GAME OVER for America.

Its no coincidence that the Proud Boys and their associated scum waited until the WW2 generation passed before they started their torchlight parades.
Citizens United was 2010. This all started happening 15 years before that decision came down. Even the Tea Party movement predated that. Citizens United was just one mile marker on the road, and given how destructive the two political parties have been anyway, not even an important mile marker. Given how political parties have bent the laws and even the truth for their own gains when they have held the reins of power, would things be any different if Citizens United didn't exist? Not really.
No argument there, my point is that the decision made it official that the US government was for sale to the highest bidder. Not that it wasn't anyway
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Re: 2025/2026 Elections Congressional & State

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GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:31 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:58 am
:nod:

Great analysis here. So how do we fix it? Education? That too has been corrupted and carries a certain degree of distrust.
To some extent, we wait it out. Trump can't live forever, and regardless, he's out of government come January 2029 at the latest. It gives us a chance, in the 2028 elections, to vote for a rational and serious candidate, rather than a populist saber-waving one. Even if it's JD Vance or Pete Buttigieg (or Shapiro), the temperature in the room will come down several degrees just having it not be Trump. It would be useful, too, to just have the government flat out stop lying about so many things. From Hunter's laptop (so many former government folks swearing it was a fake story even though they knew it was legit), to COVID (whether it came from the Chinese lab or not, just the fact that we had a government official like Fauci in place, who profited personally from that lab and clearly took steps to shield that lab from investigation at the outset of the pandemic was at a minimum incredibly suspicious), to inflation (pretending it wasn't happening and then trying to explain that runaway government spending had no impact on it), to the White House ballroom (first it wasn't going to infringe on the existing building at all, and then we knock down an entire wing of the building with no comment), people have gotten way to used to government just flat out lying. Hopefully, whoever steps in in 2029, they at least stop lying so often.

Outside of that, rebuilding trust in journalism would be great. Having that person take over CBS News is a good start. You can't have 90% of the national, mainstream media, belong to and advocate for one political party at the exclusion and derision of the other. Especially in an era where journalism has been taught, in the universities, to move away from objective reporting of the news to now be interpreting and shaping the news. People feel lied to when that happens and trust in journalism craters.

So no easy fixes, but moving on from the loudest voices in the room today (Trump now, for instance) will be helpful.
:nod: Things tend to be cyclical. I don't know what the solution is but I do think this is temporary and we'll wonder why we didn't come up with the solution sooner after we do come out of it. The development of the human race sometimes involves backward steps and I think this is one them but the long term direction is forward and advancement.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:41 am Paging Nurse Ratchet to CS

Nurse ratchet please report to CS to administer the daily dose of TDS medication..

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The only temperatures in the room that will come down are the fevers that TDS is causing
It’s already been proven that claiming TDS is another way of admitting you’ve got nothing. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:10 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:41 am Paging Nurse Ratchet to CS

Nurse ratchet please report to CS to administer the daily dose of TDS medication..

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The only temperatures in the room that will come down are the fevers that TDS is causing
It’s already been proven that claiming TDS is another way of admitting you’ve got nothing. :lol:
Not at all

TDS is a symptom of Trump‘s personality and the disease blocks you from seeing everything good that he is doing for our country

America if finally first !
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:16 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:10 am

It’s already been proven that claiming TDS is another way of admitting you’ve got nothing. :lol:
Not at all

TDS is a symptom of Trump‘s personality and the disease blocks you from seeing everything good that he is doing for our country

America if finally first !
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:16 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:10 am

It’s already been proven that claiming TDS is another way of admitting you’ve got nothing. :lol:
Not at all

TDS is a symptom of Trump‘s personality and the disease blocks you from seeing everything good that he is doing for our country

America if finally first !
Trump Decomposing Syndrome is real and continuing. At some point the amount of shit overcomes the diaper's restraining cables.
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houndawg wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:10 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:16 am

Not at all

TDS is a symptom of Trump‘s personality and the disease blocks you from seeing everything good that he is doing for our country

America if finally first !
Trump Decomposing Syndrome is real and continuing. At some point the amount of shit overcomes the diaper's restraining cables.
:lol:

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After a decade of callings conks Nazis, and all the pearl clutching the left has done over Hegseth’s tattoos, the donk Senate candidate for Maine who will be taking in Susan Collins, has an actual NAZI Totenkopf (Death Head) tattoo on his chest Yet no donks are calling for him to drop out of the race. Can you say hypocrites?

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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:58 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:24 am

Absolutely. This has been a growing concern going back to the internet starting to be on the scene in the mid 90's. All of a sudden, anybody and everybody started to have a voice or a say in everything. And let's be honest, having that kind of crowd-sourcing base for things does not ever guarantee that we get honest or factual reporting, on the contrary, we're likely to get what we see now, people siloed and partitioned to only listen to one type of source without any real critical thinking about that source. Both sides of the aisle now where maybe, as you say, the right veered off earlier than the left, but they're both consuming crappy journalism now. It is the stupid times indeed.
:nod:

Great analysis here. So how do we fix it? Education? That too has been corrupted and carries a certain degree of distrust.
Education? That’s one of the main things that broke the younger generation.

Good grief they’re about to elect a communist as mayor of New York City only because he’s promising things he can’t deliver on

Yeah, they are very uneducated, but totally indoctrinated.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:41 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:58 am

:nod:

Great analysis here. So how do we fix it? Education? That too has been corrupted and carries a certain degree of distrust.
Education? That’s one of the main things that broke the younger generation.

Good grief they’re about to elect a communist as mayor of New York City only because he’s promising things he can’t deliver on

Yeah, they are very uneducated, but totally indoctrinated.
Depends on what and how things are taught. And so many of our educational issues relate directly to socio-economics.

One area we fall short lies in teaching critical thinking skills. For example, you stating Mamdani is a “communist” in your reply. Another example is the racism and Islamophobia used by both R’s and even Dems like Cuomo.

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