2025 Domestic Leftist Violence Thread

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These two are either moronic putzes or they're counting on their readers to be moronic putzes.

• There is is no formal legal mechanism for the U.S. government to designate a domestic group as a “domestic terrorist organization.” They won't officially or automatically become a foreign terrorist organization because Mark Bray goes overseas.
• Bray is leaving the US because of death threats made against him (which makes this topic a candidate for the 2025 Domestic Rightist Violence Thread).
• Bray donated 50% of the proceeds from his book to the International Anti-Fascist Defence Fund which provides legal, medical, relocation, and emergency support for people involved in anti-fascist activism. If that makes him a financier of international Antifa then trump trump pardoning the January 6 seditionists makes him a supporter of traitors.

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Brutal takedown of trump and MAQA ...

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The Pope is right, looks like trump and MAQA are on the wrong side of God on this one.

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The Pope is right, looks like trump and MAQA are on the wrong side of God on this one.

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Seventh Circuit Rules Against Trump's Use of National Guard in Chicago

[W]e emphasize that the critical analysis of a "rebellion" centers on the nature of the resistance to governmental authority. Political opposition is not rebellion. A protest does not become a rebellion merely because the protestors advocate for myriad legal or policy changes, are well organized, call for significant changes to the structure of the U.S. government, use civil disobedience as a form of protest, or exercise their Second Amendment right to carry firearms as the law currently allows. Nor does a protest become a rebellion merely because of sporadic and isolated incidents of unlawful activity or even violence committed by rogue participants in the protest. Such conduct exceeds the scope of the First Amendment, of course, and law enforcement has apprehended the perpetrators accordingly. But because rebellions at least use deliberate, organized violence to resist governmental authority, the problematic incidents in this record clearly fall within the considerable daylight between protected speech and rebellion.

Applying our tentative understanding of "rebellion" to the district court's factual findings, and even after affording great deference to the President's evaluation of the circumstances, we see insufficient evidence of a rebellion or danger of rebellion in Illinois. The spirited, sustained, and occasionally violent actions of demonstrators in protest of the federal government's immigration policies and actions, without more, does not give rise to a danger of rebellion against the government's authority. The administration thus has not demonstrated that it is likely to succeed on this issue.

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Trump’s claims about violence are falling apart in court

His administration has defended its deployment of troops by saying that local police can’t handle the situation and that there is either “a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States” – two circumstances in which federal law allows the president to federalize the National Guard.

But US District Court Judge April Perry said Thursday that there was no such rebellion or danger of one. (In fact, she said the deployment itself could actually fuel “civil unrest.”) She said the protests at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility did not exceed about 200 attendees, and that there were about 100 state and local law enforcement officers there to handle it.

She said the Department of Homeland Security’s version of events was “simply unreliable” and suffered from a “lack of credibility.” She said the government’s evidence was contradicted by local and state law enforcement.
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Immergut in a lengthy ruling over the weekend noted Trump has cited a need to save “War ravaged Portland” from “Antifa, and other domestic terrorists.” Trump added as recently as Friday that Portland is “almost an insurrection.”

The judge has made clear that’s extremely far from the truth. Immergut acknowledged some significant instances of violence near an ICE facility over the summer. But she said it was well-contained by local authorities and that it had all but disappeared by the time of Trump’s September 27 order, when the protests “typically involved twenty or fewer people.”

“… The protests have been such a minor issue, that the normal nightlife in downtown Portland has required more police resources than the ICE facility,” she said.
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The verdict was similar when US District Judge Charles Breyer ruled last month against Trump’s use of the military in Los Angeles.

Trump often claimed the city was on the verge of going up in flames. “Los Angeles was under siege until we got there,” he said at one point.

Breyer said that simply wasn’t true.

“There were indeed protests in Los Angeles, and some individuals engaged in violence,” the judge said in his opinion. “Yet there was no rebellion, nor was civilian law enforcement unable to respond to the protests and enforce the law.”

Just like the lib activist district judge was overruled in the LA case, the one in Portland now has been, too.

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Trump’s claims about violence are falling apart in court

Just like the lib activist district judge was overruled in the LA case, the one in Portland now has been, too.

Does that vagina above trump's tie have a clitoris?

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Federal appeals court temporarily bars Portland troop deployment

An appeals court ruling that Oregon National Guard troops can be sent into Portland is on hold, as judges take a closer look at the matter.

On Friday afternoon, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals stayed the order issued Monday by a panel of three judges within the circuit.

The newly issued hold lasts until 5 p.m. on Tuesday, Oct. 28. According to the court, it is necessary to allow a broader swathe of appeals judges to decide whether to rehear the matter.
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In Monday’s ruling, a three judge panel — including two Trump appointees — found that Trump legally mobilized 200 National Guard troops in late September in response to months of protests in Portland. The panel’s lone dissenter, an appointee of President Bill Clinton, strongly disagreed.

Immediately following the ruling, a judge within the 9th Circuit called for a vote on whether a broader segment of judges should take up the matter. Friday’s ruling appears geared to ensuring that vote can be held before any decisions are made on a troop deployment.

The Monday ruling relied in part on accounts of destructive protests at the ICE facility in June, and on the Trump administration’s argument it had to send a crush of officers from other parts of the country to protect the facility.

But just how many officers have been sent to Portland has been a subject of some controversy.

The majority opinion, signed by Judges Ryan Nelson and Bridget Bade, suggested 115 Federal Protective Service officers had been sent en masse to Portland, representing a major diversion of forces. New court filings show that is not the case, but that officers were sent in roughly monthlong “waves” of up to 30 people.

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These two are either moronic putzes or they're counting on their readers to be moronic putzes.

• There is is no formal legal mechanism for the U.S. government to designate a domestic group as a “domestic terrorist organization.” They won't officially or automatically become a foreign terrorist organization because Mark Bray goes overseas.
• Bray is leaving the US because of death threats made against him (which makes this topic a candidate for the 2025 Domestic Rightist Violence Thread).
• Bray donated 50% of the proceeds from his book to the International Anti-Fascist Defence Fund which provides legal, medical, relocation, and emergency support for people involved in anti-fascist activism. If that makes him a financier of international Antifa then trump trump pardoning the January 6 seditionists makes him a supporter of traitors.

Why do these rabble rousers conduct their idiotic operations in cities such as Portland Oregon?

Why do they stay well clear of cities like Miami? Because Miami has respect for law-enforcement and doesn’t put up with nonsense. They allow protest, but once you cross the line and start damaging property and putting people in danger you’re gonna get busted up.

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These two are either moronic putzes or they're counting on their readers to be moronic putzes.

• There is is no formal legal mechanism for the U.S. government to designate a domestic group as a “domestic terrorist organization.” They won't officially or automatically become a foreign terrorist organization because Mark Bray goes overseas.
• Bray is leaving the US because of death threats made against him (which makes this topic a candidate for the 2025 Domestic Rightist Violence Thread).
• Bray donated 50% of the proceeds from his book to the International Anti-Fascist Defence Fund which provides legal, medical, relocation, and emergency support for people involved in anti-fascist activism. If that makes him a financier of international Antifa then trump trump pardoning the January 6 seditionists makes him a supporter of traitors.

Why do these rabble rousers conduct their idiotic operations in cities such as Portland Oregon?

Why do they stay well clear of cities like Miami? Because Miami has respect for law-enforcement and doesn’t put up with nonsense. They allow protest, but once you cross the line and start damaging property and putting people in danger you’re gonna get busted up.

Higher education levels? More independent? Aversion to fascism?

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Just like the lib activist district judge was overruled in the LA case, the one in Portland now has been, too.

Does that vagina above trump's tie have a clitoris?

Whole new meaning to tickle your throat.

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Just like the lib activist district judge was overruled in the LA case, the one in Portland now has been, too.

oopsie

'Material factual error': 9th Circuit reverses victory for Trump admin in National Guard case after discovery shows feds lied about troop numbers in Oregon

The Trump administration notched itself an illusory victory in federal court this week in one of the ongoing legal battles over the federal use of state National Guard troops to police American cities.

On Monday, a three-judge panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, in a 2-1 ruling, stayed a temporary restraining order (TRO) issued by U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut, who was appointed by President Donald Trump during his first term in office.

By Friday, the full 9th Circuit administratively stayed the panel's own stay – "[w]ithout objection from the panel," an order notes.

That quick turnabout appears to be the result of some unfair play.

On Thursday, attorneys for Oregon alerted the appellate court to an issue with some of the figures provided by the U.S. Department of Justice in service of the government's winning stay request.

"Plaintiffs write to alert the Court of a material factual error by defendants on which the panel relied to grant a stay pending appeal," the citation of supplemental authorities reads. "Given that reliance, and the gravity of the interests at stake, plaintiffs ask that the panel immediately withdraw its order or, in the alternative, that the en banc court immediately vacate it."

Oregon's Thursday filing explains the panel's earlier decision-making when granting the Trump administration the stay, at length:

The panel majority held that defendants were likely to prevail under 10 U.S.C. § 12406(3) because the record showed a colorable inability to execute federal law. Central to that determination was the majority's acceptance of defendants' averments that protests had forced the redeployment of 115 Federal Protection Service officers, "nearly 25% of FPS officers nationwide," to Portland. The dissent noted that defendants' declaration on the actual extent of the deployment was "carefully worded" to the point of "vague." But defendants' counsel emphasized at oral argument the "magnitude" and "unsustainab[ility]" of having 115 FPS offices redeployed; then, when asked directly whether all 115 officers remained in Portland, counsel stated only that "some" had gone home but "many" remained.

Those numbers, as it turns out, were greatly exaggerated.

In discovery produced Wednesday night, the government "admitted that 115 FPS officers have never been redeployed to Portland." Rather, the Beaver State says, "[o]nly a fraction of that number was ever in Portland at any given time before the President's directive."

Citing four separate time frames, the discovery showed deployments of 27 troops, 31 troops, 29 troops, and 20 troops in Portland at any given time between the middle of June and end of October.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/ma ... in-oregon/

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Why do these rabble rousers conduct their idiotic operations in cities such as Portland Oregon?

Why do they stay well clear of cities like Miami? Because Miami has respect for law-enforcement and doesn’t put up with nonsense. They allow protest, but once you cross the line and start damaging property and putting people in danger you’re gonna get busted up.

Higher education levels? More independent? Aversion to fascism?

Nothing fascist at all about Miami

Remember who built Miami into what it is today, one of the greatest cities in the United States of America and it was built by Cuban’s who fled Fidel Castro idiotic revolution that ruined Cuba

So try again sunshine

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Higher education levels? More independent? Aversion to fascism?

Nothing fascist at all about Miami

Remember who built Miami into what it is today, one of the greatest cities in the United States of America and it was built by Cuban’s who fled Fidel Castro idiotic revolution that ruined Cuba

So try again sunshine

So Miami wasn’t developed until the 1960’s?

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Nothing fascist at all about Miami

Remember who built Miami into what it is today, one of the greatest cities in the United States of America and it was built by Cuban’s who fled Fidel Castro idiotic revolution that ruined Cuba

So try again sunshine

So Miami wasn’t developed until the 1960’s?

You had Art Deco Miami Beach that was developed 100 years ago but turned into an old folks home by the Eighties

The Cuban now American turned Miami into the mega hub it is today and it was the Capitalist that escaped Cuba

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I helped lead the National Guard. Troops don’t belong in our cities

Every bit of that experience tells me that the deployments we’re currently seeing inside American cities—including Los Angeles, Washington DC, Memphis, Portland, and Chicago—are not only un-American and wrong, they’re being done at the expense of our young men and women in uniform, their families, and their civilian employers.
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The Guard has two missions: The first mission is to be America’s strategic reserve, prepared to defend the country from overseas threats. We regularly send Guard units overseas to both relieve active duty units as well as to deploy to have a footprint with other partner nations around the world.

The secondary mission is to be available during peacetime for governors to use predominantly in times of natural disaster. Guard members are there for governors to augment the resources in his or her state, and they take great pride in being the first ones there when their fellow citizens need them. Whenever a natural disaster strikes, devastating a local community, one can find Guardsmen on the ground, doing everything in their power to help.

Our military is not trained in law enforcement. There are absolutely zero situations where our National Guard should be on the streets of America as a status quo measure, absent some acute short-term crisis. We would never send our sheriff’s deputies to Afghanistan for a special operation; it’s just as illogical to send highly trained combat soldiers and put them into civilian law enforcement roles. As DC police officer and Virginia National Guard veteran Daniel Hodges recently wrote:

“Soldiers are trained to fight and win wars. Military Police notwithstanding, soldiers are not trained for law enforcement roles. They are not trained to conduct traffic stops, they are not trained in deescalation, crisis intervention, and DC code. They do not have the legal authority to conduct routine stops or make arrests. Aside from very narrow roles such as blocking and directing traffic or riot control, National Guard members are not trained, equipped, or authorized to be of any great help in combating crime.”
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It is absolutely wrong to have the military in our cities. We do not want to go back to the way that it once was, with a great divide separating civilians and coloring their perceptions of our men and women in uniform. We want to maintain the trust that has been built up for decades between our military and the people they are sworn to protect. These are our sons and daughters, and they have not changed one bit—they are still every bit as proud, patriotic, and ready to discharge their duties with integrity and efficiency. What’s changed is the signals coming from civilian leadership.

Deploying our military to watch over and intimidate our citizens is wrong and presents a clear and present danger to the First Amendment rights and freedoms we cherish. It must stop.

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One idiot had their toddler with them as they used their vehicle as a barrier..


WATCH: Chicago Mobs Throw Rocks, Shoot Fireworks at Police
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2 ... -officers/
Activists for illegal aliens in Chicago are increasing their harassment, obstruction, and

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Shock Video Shows ICE Agent Assaulting Woman Who Asked If He’s A Good Christian

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers forcibly detained a father and his two children in southwest Colorado on Monday while they were on their way to middle school, sparking a mass protest outside the agency’s Durango field office in an effort to get the kids released back to their mom.
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Earlier in the day, an ICE agent threw a woman to the ground in a shocking moment captured by bystanders amid the otherwise peaceful protest.

The victim, 57-year-old Franci Stagi, told HuffPost the agent snapped when she asked him “what would Jesus do” and if he was “a good Christian.”

Video shows he responded by snatching her phone from her hands and then violently assaulting her when she attempted to retrieve it, grabbing her by the hair and putting her in a chokehold before ultimately throwing her down an embankment on the opposite side of the street.

Stagi acknowledged she brushed his shoulder while trying to grab her phone back but said he should never have grabbed her phone in the first place. More shocking to her is how these agents have been emboldened to act with absolute impunity.

“People were like, ‘You gotta press charges,’ and I’m like, ‘Against who?’”

“I don’t know who he was. He didn’t have a badge. He wouldn’t give us a name. He wouldn’t talk to us. There’s no recourse,” she said.

Masks and no badges or other identification give ICE the ability to act with impunity knowing they can't be identified and prosecuted for their actions. If they continue to abuse their power the courts need to step in and force them to wear something so they can be identified and charged if they go too far. FAFO needs go both ways.

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Manhunt underway after gunman allegedly fires at federal agents during Chicago immigration enforcement action
Crowds threw paint cans, bricks at federal vehicles as chaos ensued
https://www.foxnews.com/us/manhunt-unde ... ent-action

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Manhunt underway after gunman allegedly fires at federal agents during Chicago immigration enforcement action
Crowds threw paint cans, bricks at federal vehicles as chaos ensued
https://www.foxnews.com/us/manhunt-unde ... ent-action

Trump and Miller love this.

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Manhunt underway after gunman allegedly fires at federal agents during Chicago immigration enforcement action
Crowds threw paint cans, bricks at federal vehicles as chaos ensued
https://www.foxnews.com/us/manhunt-unde ... ent-action

Trump and Miller love this.

Actually Americans don’t like the radicals that interfere with law-enforcement who is only trying do their job, and not an easy job at that, and now like everybody knew would happen, the violent left is trying to kill them and the nut job politician’s are actually supporting the violence

These truly are stupid times

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Trump and Miller love this.

Actually Americans don’t like the radicals that interfere with law-enforcement who is only trying do their job, and not an easy job at that, and now like everybody knew would happen, the violent left is trying to kill them and the nut job politician’s are actually supporting the violence

These truly are stupid times

Citizens trying to shoot LEOs with guns should be found and charged just like LEOs who use excessive force on protesters should be identified and charged.

Americans don't like either.

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Border patrol agent who shot Chicago woman boasted about it in text messages

A federal agent who shot a Chicago woman multiple times after he said she struck his vehicle with her own bragged about his shooting skills in text messages with other agents, according to records presented Wednesday at a hearing in the case against the woman.
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Records presented at the hearing showed that in a group Signal chat with other agents, which Exum described as a support group, he wrote in part: "I fired 5 rounds and she had 7 holes. Put that in your book boys.”