trump/vance Immigration Enforcement Bloodbath

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Anyone with any common sense knows exactly what Comey was insinuating with the shells he magically discovered on his little walk on the beach. That is a big difference from you claiming the Trumpers believing that Comey is 'actively' trying to assassinate Trump.

Quit backpedaling. You explicitly said Trump started the Jewish Space Lazer bullshit. The facts are that it was MTG and Trump has never uttered a word about it. Now that you were corrected, you're trying to play the guilt by association game. Stop it.

Someone certainly needs to educate you, but I have neither the time nor patience.
However, I will educate you with this. What you and klam seem to not realize is that Trump supporters come from all over the map. Many different races, religions, philosophies, etc. On top of that, they are not monolithic and no more cultish than the Obamabots were.

You're welcome.

Where did I state that comey was actively trying to assassinate trump? I didn't. There is a difference between that and stating that "comey is actively trying to have trump assassinated" and trump himself stating "a child knows . . . that meant assassination, and it says it loud and clear" and lil donnie jr tweeting "comey casually calling for my dad to be murdered" backs up my claim that they were insinuating that comey was actively trying to have trump assassinated.

Anyone with any common sense knows that what comey was insinuating is up to interpretation. 86 is a broad term that doesn't only mean to kill. comey could very well have simply been calling for trump's removal from office, not his assassination. It was quite the leap made by a bunch of overly sensitive beta cuck snowflakes to jump to the conclusion that it could only mean that comey wanted him assassinated.

As far as Jewish space lasers go, why does my trolling MAQA yahoos on the many whackadoodle Qanon like conspiracy theories that they believe trigger you so much? trump encourages MAQA yahoos to believe crazy bullshit, he might not have pushed that one explicitly but he's pushed enough of them (the 2020 election was stolen, "they're not after me, they're after YOU. I just happen to be standing in the way", etc.) for me to include it under the umbrella (Qanon believers helped him get started). That is the context of that statement. My apologies if that triggers you as well. Do you need a safe space with a blanky and pacifier?

Yes MAQA yahoos come from all over the map but to state that obama's supporters were monolithic is obtuse, they come from just as diverse backgrounds and ways of thinking as trump's.

As far as libertarian principles, classical/traditional libertarians tend to believe in individual liberty, civil liberties, limited government, free markets, non-interventionist foreign policy, etc.

Here are some of trump's policies that conflict with traditional libertarian beliefs:

• Tariffs – conflicts with free markets (tariffs are government-imposed barriers that distort free markets).
• Consolidation of power in the executive branch and weakening checks & balances (attempts to control independent agencies like the Fed, unilaterally withholding funds appropriated by Congress, etc.) - conflicts with limited government. Libertarians favor separation of powers, constitutional limits, and checks against authoritarian tendencies.
• Targeted investigations, firings, and political retaliation against opponents - conflicts with civil liberties and limited government.
• Attempting to impose their social mores on others (banning DEI, criminalizing gender-affirming care, not federal but states requiring the Bible and/or 10 Commandments in classrooms/curriculum and banning books, etc.) – conflicts with individual liberty, civil liberties, limited government, parental rights.
• Immigration restrictions (limiting immigration, expanding detentions & deportations, attempting to end birthright citizenship) – conflicts with individual liberty and free association.
• State ownership stakes in firms like Intel and U.S. Steel - conflicts with limited government and free markets.
• Deploying the national guard to LA and DC, threatening to deploy them elsewhere – conflicts with limited government (local autonomy and limited use of coercive force).

Yes, there are trump policies that traditional libertarians would support (cutting government, deregulation, etc.) but the ones listed above are some serious conflicts that you can't just sweep under the rug. For the most part trump is stomping all over traditional libertarian principles and most MAQA yahoos who say they're libertarians don't understand libertarianism.

Now are you going to take the easy way out and just take pot shots at this post or are you going to do a little work and show me where you disagree and why?

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‘The whole thing is screwed up’: Farmers in deep-red Pennsylvania struggle to find workers

Farmers in the rural region near the New York border say those stories are not unique.

“The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.”

These are the voices Thompson and other farm-state lawmakers are hearing as they discuss potential solutions. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins’ assurances that American workers and machines can help close the gap ring hollow among farmers who have become reliant on migrant labor that is increasingly hard to find in the face of Trump’s immigration crackdown.

The U.S. agricultural workforce fell by 155,000 — about 7 percent — between March and July, according to an analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data. That tracks with Pew Research Center data that shows total immigrant labor fell by 750,000 from January through July. The labor shortage piles onto an ongoing economic crisis for farmers exacerbated by dwindling export markets that could leave them with crop surpluses.

“People don’t understand that if we don’t get more labor, our cows don’t get milked and our crops don’t get picked,” said Tim Wood, a dairy farmer and a member of the Pennsylvania Farm Bureau board of directors.

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So much for going after the "worst of the worst" ...



Is ICE really targeting the ‘worst of the worst?’ New data suggests otherwise.

According to the agency’s own Sept. 25 custody report, the largest group of immigrants arrested in the interior and currently detained by ICE (16,523) are people with no criminal record at all. (To be clear, being present in the U.S. unlawfully is a civil immigration law violation punishable by deportation — not a federal crime punishable by jail.)

Meanwhile, the number of ICE detainees with a prior criminal conviction (15,725) is now smaller than the number without any criminal record. The same goes for the share who face pending criminal charges (13,767).

This is the “first time” that’s “EVER” happened, according to Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a senior fellow at the American Immigration Council. To substantiate his claim, Reichlin-Melnick charted the fluctuations in ICE’s detention population since May 2019, which is as far back as the data goes

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So much for going after the "worst of the worst" ...



Is ICE really targeting the ‘worst of the worst?’ New data suggests otherwise.

According to the agency’s own Sept. 25 custody report, the largest group of immigrants arrested in the interior and currently detained by ICE (16,523) are people with no criminal record at all. (To be clear, being present in the U.S. unlawfully is a civil immigration law violation punishable by deportation — not a federal crime punishable by jail.)

Meanwhile, the number of ICE detainees with a prior criminal conviction (15,725) is now smaller than the number without any criminal record. The same goes for the share who face pending criminal charges (13,767).

This is the “first time” that’s “EVER” happened, according to Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a senior fellow at the American Immigration Council. To substantiate his claim, Reichlin-Melnick charted the fluctuations in ICE’s detention population since May 2019, which is as far back as the data goes

So?

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Trump & ICE Assault on Christianity

Black, the senior pastor at the First Presbyterian Church of Chicago in Woodlawn, was “offering prayers and urging ICE officers stationed on the roof of the Broadview ICE facility to repent from their unnecessarily brutal enforcement of the immigration laws” before officers fired at him, according to the lawsuit.
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The lawsuit also accuses the Trump administration of violating the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which states that the government “shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability.”

Officers’ practice of targeting Black and other clergy “substantially burdens their exercise of religion,” according to the lawsuit.

The lawsuit also cites an incident involving the Rev. Beth Johnson, an ordained minister in the Unitarian Church, who was “fired upon without warning or justification as she and other protesters and clergy members stood on the sidewalk singing ‘We Shall Overcome’ and other traditional songs of protest,” the filing says.

The Rev. Hannah Kardon, a United Methodist pastor who leads United Church of Rogers Park in Chicago, told Religion News Service that ICE agents fired several rounds of pepper balls against her, including while she was praying with her eyes closed and hands lifted.

They have so much in common with Pontius paxton.

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Is Governor Stitt wrong?

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Documents Allege a Federal Agent at Portland ICE Threatened to Shoot an Ambulance Driver

Late on Oct. 5, a Portland ambulance crew informed dispatchers over the radio that it was attempting to transport a patient from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to Legacy Emanuel Medical Center but that ICE officers were impeding its departure. Six minutes later, at 9:40 pm, according to publicly archived radio records, the medic driving the vehicle delivered an update: “We are still not being allowed to leave by ICE officers.”
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Both reports say that federal agents, in an effort to block the ambulance’s departure, stood directly in front of the vehicle. As the delay dragged on, according to the reports, the ambulance operator put the vehicle into park, causing it to lurch forward slightly.

The reports indicate the federal agents did not like this—so much so that an agent threatened to shoot and arrest the driver. The driver, frightened, asked why. An agent, according to the reports, responded that the driver had attempted to hit him with the ambulance.

“I was still in such shock,” the driver later wrote, “that they were not only accusing me of such a thing, but crowding and cornering me in the seat, pointing and screaming at me, threatening to shoot and arrest me, and not allowing the ambulance to leave the scene. This was no longer a safe scene, and in that moment, I realized that the scene had not actually been safe the entire time that they were blocking us from exiting, and that we were essentially trapped.”

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Documents Allege a Federal Agent at Portland ICE Threatened to Shoot an Ambulance Driver

Late on Oct. 5, a Portland ambulance crew informed dispatchers over the radio that it was attempting to transport a patient from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to Legacy Emanuel Medical Center but that ICE officers were impeding its departure. Six minutes later, at 9:40 pm, according to publicly archived radio records, the medic driving the vehicle delivered an update: “We are still not being allowed to leave by ICE officers.”
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Both reports say that federal agents, in an effort to block the ambulance’s departure, stood directly in front of the vehicle. As the delay dragged on, according to the reports, the ambulance operator put the vehicle into park, causing it to lurch forward slightly.

The reports indicate the federal agents did not like this—so much so that an agent threatened to shoot and arrest the driver. The driver, frightened, asked why. An agent, according to the reports, responded that the driver had attempted to hit him with the ambulance.

“I was still in such shock,” the driver later wrote, “that they were not only accusing me of such a thing, but crowding and cornering me in the seat, pointing and screaming at me, threatening to shoot and arrest me, and not allowing the ambulance to leave the scene. This was no longer a safe scene, and in that moment, I realized that the scene had not actually been safe the entire time that they were blocking us from exiting, and that we were essentially trapped.”

BS. Putting a vehicle into park doesn’t cause it to lurch forward if you have your foot on the brake.

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Documents Allege a Federal Agent at Portland ICE Threatened to Shoot an Ambulance Driver

BS. Putting a vehicle into park doesn’t cause it to lurch forward if you have your foot on the brake.

So it didn't lurch forward and the overly sensitive ICE agent shouldn't have lost his cool under almost no pressure and threatened to shoot an ambulance driver.

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BS. Putting a vehicle into park doesn’t cause it to lurch forward if you have your foot on the brake.

So it didn't lurch forward and the overly sensitive ICE agent shouldn't have lost his cool under almost no pressure and threatened to shoot an ambulance driver.

Article said it did lurch forward

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So it didn't lurch forward and the overly sensitive ICE agent shouldn't have lost his cool under almost no pressure and threatened to shoot an ambulance driver.

Article said it did lurch forward

Article also said all they did was put it in park which you said doesn't cause it to lurch forward. I'm taking you at your word.

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Article said it did lurch forward

Article also said all they did was put it in park which you said doesn't cause it to lurch forward. I'm taking you at your word.

The only established fact is the vehicle lurched forward.

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Article also said all they did was put it in park which you said doesn't cause it to lurch forward. I'm taking you at your word.

The only established fact that I'm willing to recognize is the vehicle lurched forward SLIGHTLY and the ICE agent lost his or her cool.

FYP - details are important

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Her 13-year-old son was arrested, then taken by ICE to a detention facility. The police chief calls it a first for his city

Last Thursday, she was called by police in Everett, Massachusetts, a Boston suburb, who said her son Arthur had been arrested. She was told she needed to pick him up.

But Berto left the police station without Arthur that night. After waiting in the station for more than an hour, an officer informed her Immigration and Customs Enforcement had already taken him away.
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After learning her son was detained by ICE, Berto’s immigration attorneys took the case to federal court, and a judge in Massachusetts ordered the government to either explain by Tuesday night why Arthur’s detention is justified or give him the opportunity to be released on bond.
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Berto initially only learned about her son’s whereabouts through his phone calls. He has called her from two different immigration facilities, one in Massachusetts and another one in Virginia.

This kid might (emphasis on might) be a juvenile delinquent but is he the "worst of the worst? Should he be taken away from his mother and denied due process? What is this country becoming under trump?

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Appeals court judges — including a Trump appointee — voice doubt over Trump’s bid to deport Mahmoud Khalil

Bibas, in particular, scoffed at an argument by a lawyer for the government that the lower-court judge, Michael Farbiarz, didn’t have jurisdiction over the case because Khalil’s lawyers hadn’t properly filed a petition for his release in the appropriate district. In the hours following his arrest on March 8, Khalil was moved several times over the course of a weekend, and his lawyers filed the petition in Manhattan based on inaccurate information provided by the government.

The government lawyer, Drew Ensign, suggested Khalil’s lawyers should have waited to file the petition.

“They’re dealing with a situation where, you know, immigrants have been spirited out of the country in a matter of a day or two,” Bibas said to Ensign. “Are they acting unreasonably?”

After Ensign began to answer, Bibas interrupted him, saying: “I’m asking, should we adopt a rule that allows the executive to remove someone from the country in 24 to 48 hours and say there’s no jurisdiction anywhere until the courts open on Monday, by which time he’s on a plane?”

Bibas continued: “If our rule says, wait until … the system is updated Monday morning, the executive might spirit the person out of the country over the weekend. Are you asking us to adopt a rule that says when there’s a lag in the database that’s all on their lawyers and then Monday morning — ‘Sayonara, sorry, he’s gone’?”

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So it didn't lurch forward and the overly sensitive ICE agent shouldn't have lost his cool under almost no pressure and threatened to shoot an ambulance driver.

Article said it did lurch forward

written by the same guy who said Trump lunged for the steering wheel

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Mother speaks out against DHS 'Operation Midway Blitz' being named for daughter killed in DUI crash

"It's not consistent with who she was. It doesn't align with who she was," Lorence said. "She was compassionate. She was empathetic. She was caring. She was loving beyond belief."

Abraham was 20 years old. She died in Urbana on January 19, when police say an SUV driven by an undocumented drunk driver slammed into the vehicle she and her friends were riding in. A second woman died the next day. The man charged with their deaths is undocumented. But, her mother said that is not the point.

"It was a drunk driver that killed her. It was bad decision making by a human being that killed her," Lorence said. "Whether or not she would believe in this operation is not what we're here to talk about... She's being attached to it and she doesn't have a voice to say if she wants to or not."

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Bodycam footage conflicts with DHS account of Chicago woman's shooting by Border Patrol, lawyer says

Parente said body camera footage from one of the border patrol agents in the car showed an agent saying "Do something, bitch" as Martinez drove alongside them, with the agent's finger resting on the trigger of an assault rifle. DHS said Martinez and the other drivers "boxed in" the agents.

While prosecutors allege that Martinez drove her car at the border patrol agents' vehicle and struck it, Parente said Martinez would show at trial that the federal agents actually struck her.

Parente said footage showed the driver of the border patrol vehicle turn the steering wheel to the left, toward Martinez's vehicle.After the vehicles made contact, the agents stepped out and one fired at Martinez.

"Law enforcement was forced to deploy their weapons and fired defensive shots at an armed U.S. citizen," DHS said in its statement.

Parente said Martinez left her gun in her purse on her passenger seat.

"This gun was never in her hand," Parente said. Martinez holds a license to carry a concealed weapon in the state of Illinois, he added.

Parente said Martinez was shot five times by the border patrol agent. She drove away to an auto repair shop, where she called 911.

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Federal Judge Orders Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino, Who Fired Tear Gas at Little Village Crowd, Into Court

U.S. District Court Judge Sara Ellis ordered Border Patrol chief Greg Bovino, who has led a series of increasingly aggressive raids across Chicago and the suburbs, to appear in her courtroom in person at 10 a.m. Tuesday.

Ellis’ order came less than 24 hours after Bovino fired tear gas at a crowd during an aggressive raid in Little Village. Bovino accompanied agents on raids in Little Village Wednesday and Thursday.

Ellis prohibited federal agents from deploying tear gas and other weapons against journalists, protesters and anyone not posing an immediate threat to immigration enforcement agents in an order issued two weeks ago.

If agents determine crowds pose a threat, they must issue two warnings before using tear gas and other types of chemical sprays in a case brought by the Chicago Headline Club, Chicago Newspaper Guild Local 34071, Block Club Chicago and other media organizations, according to Ellis’ order.

Lawyers for the Headline Club and other plaintiffs told Ellis that Bovino had violated her order by firing at least one tear gas canister at the crowd and they were concerned the federal government “was simply ignoring your order.”

Lawyers asked to Ellis “to conduct an inquiry into this incident and order relief that the court deems proper,” given the “flagrancy of the apparent violation.”

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Federal Judge Orders Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino, Who Fired Tear Gas at Little Village Crowd, Into Court

U.S. District Court Judge Sara Ellis ordered Border Patrol chief Greg Bovino, who has led a series of increasingly aggressive raids across Chicago and the suburbs, to appear in her courtroom in person at 10 a.m. Tuesday.

Ellis’ order came less than 24 hours after Bovino fired tear gas at a crowd during an aggressive raid in Little Village. Bovino accompanied agents on raids in Little Village Wednesday and Thursday.

Ellis prohibited federal agents from deploying tear gas and other weapons against journalists, protesters and anyone not posing an immediate threat to immigration enforcement agents in an order issued two weeks ago.

If agents determine crowds pose a threat, they must issue two warnings before using tear gas and other types of chemical sprays in a case brought by the Chicago Headline Club, Chicago Newspaper Guild Local 34071, Block Club Chicago and other media organizations, according to Ellis’ order.

Lawyers for the Headline Club and other plaintiffs told Ellis that Bovino had violated her order by firing at least one tear gas canister at the crowd and they were concerned the federal government “was simply ignoring your order.”

Lawyers asked to Ellis “to conduct an inquiry into this incident and order relief that the court deems proper,” given the “flagrancy of the apparent violation.”

From Seattle to Chicago to NY, people are getting pissed.

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Federal Judge Orders Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino, Who Fired Tear Gas at Little Village Crowd, Into Court

From Seattle to Chicago to NY, people are getting pissed.

Lawsuit: D.C. man detained for playing "Star Wars" song at National Guard

What they're saying: "The law might have tolerated government conduct of this sort a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away," the ACLU attorneys say in the suit.

But in the here and now, the First Amendment bars government officials from shutting down peaceful protests, and the Fourth Amendment (along with the District's prohibition on false arrest) bars groundless seizures."

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‘Inexplicable’: Oregon lawmakers press ICE to release Portland woman from custody after case cleared

“Ms. Merlos holds U-Deferred Action status, a valid work permit through 2029, and has not been charged with a crime. To date, the Department of Homeland Security has not provided us with any explanation for why she was detained for so long by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and why she is still being held at NWIPC by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE),” the lawmakers wrote.
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“Ms. Merlos reported that her four children experienced significant fear and distress as they were detained in one room together, driven inexplicably from one location to another for entire days, and threatened with the potential of family separation or deportation to Honduras, a country the children have not been to and their mother has fear of returning to,” the lawmakers wrote. “Ms. Merlos also shared that they lacked sufficient access to fresh and nutritious food and time outside for her children to play. The children have reported that during their detention that when their mother stepped away, CBP officers tried to interrogate them.”

The Oregon delegation furthered that the family’s detention contradicts CBP rules and protections under the Constitution.

“CBP’s own policy clearly states that individuals’ should generally not be held for longer than 72 hours in CBP hold rooms or holding facilities. Every effort must be made to hold detainees for the least amount of time required for their processing, transfer, release, or repatriation as appropriate and as operationally feasible.’ It is inexplicable that an entire family, including four U.S. citizen children, were held for over four times longer than CBP’s own limit,” the lawmakers wrote.

Party of family values? NOT!

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‘Inexplicable’: Oregon lawmakers press ICE to release Portland woman from custody after case cleared

“Ms. Merlos holds U-Deferred Action status, a valid work permit through 2029, and has not been charged with a crime. To date, the Department of Homeland Security has not provided us with any explanation for why she was detained for so long by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and why she is still being held at NWIPC by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE),” the lawmakers wrote.
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“Ms. Merlos reported that her four children experienced significant fear and distress as they were detained in one room together, driven inexplicably from one location to another for entire days, and threatened with the potential of family separation or deportation to Honduras, a country the children have not been to and their mother has fear of returning to,” the lawmakers wrote. “Ms. Merlos also shared that they lacked sufficient access to fresh and nutritious food and time outside for her children to play. The children have reported that during their detention that when their mother stepped away, CBP officers tried to interrogate them.”

The Oregon delegation furthered that the family’s detention contradicts CBP rules and protections under the Constitution.

“CBP’s own policy clearly states that individuals’ should generally not be held for longer than 72 hours in CBP hold rooms or holding facilities. Every effort must be made to hold detainees for the least amount of time required for their processing, transfer, release, or repatriation as appropriate and as operationally feasible.’ It is inexplicable that an entire family, including four U.S. citizen children, were held for over four times longer than CBP’s own limit,” the lawmakers wrote.

Party of family values? NOT!

your post would make sense if these kids were the kids of a conservative, but they are not

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‘Inexplicable’: Oregon lawmakers press ICE to release Portland woman from custody after case cleared

Party of family values? NOT!

your post would make sense if these kids were the kids of a conservative, but they are not

So family values only applies if the family is conservative? Attitudes like that will split this country in two, so much for making America great again.

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your post would make sense if these kids were the kids of a conservative, but they are not

So family values only applies if the family is conservative? Attitudes like that will split this country in two, so much for making America great again.

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