Trump Cabinet/Appointments

[UNI88]

Look at you, providing "context" for what rfk jr might have meant. Did he tell you that's what he meant? Did you read his mind and know with absolute certainty that's what he meant? Did he provide that context during that or subsequent interviews?

He's had plenty of opportunities to walk back those comments or provide that context. I could be wrong but I don't think he has. I choose to take him at his word. He said it, he owns it.

rfk jr is Spandos level nutty.

I know his context because this IS the prevailing context on vaccines and hesitancy.

Why are you worried about testing the vaccines in a manner that was promised by the CDC years ago, but never embarked upon?

Data will set you free.

It might be the prevailing context but it literally isn't what he said.

He's had plenty of opportunities to provide that context, has he?

You said it earlier, he is Spandos level nutty.

[kalm]

So are vaccines good or bad?

I obviously don't agree with Cruise Captain Krystol, but this to me was very interesting. Trump absolutely LOVES his Operation Warp Speed and this is the first time I seen him talk about it possibly not being a good as he thought.

To answer your question, vaccines are great, but they need to be fully vetted and possibly changed. When I say changed, I mean create them so they are more like how you would encounter them in real life. That won't always work, but we should be trying to maximize that aspect.

Not sure if you remember, but I stated many times during Covid that if they had used an attenuated vaccine that we could sniff up our noses, I would have had zero objections. For me, the risk of taking an EUA developed vaccine using novel technologies, was too great.

A example of what I'm driving at would be how parents of school aged children fared better during Covid. It was because kids are constantly bringing home every flipping respiratory illness and spreading it to parents. It's almost as if children are continually "micro dosing" parents. How do we naturally microdose people?

And the vaccines saved millions of lives worldwide. You do realize people much smarter than you on this matter who’ve worked in the field for decades considered your concerns?

Our kids socially distanced, used best practices, and followed expert advice both during at home learning and once returned.

No one in the family got Covid until nearly 5 years in and thanks in part to the vaccines it was totally manageable.

[SeattleGriz]

I know his context because this IS the prevailing context on vaccines and hesitancy.

Why are you worried about testing the vaccines in a manner that was promised by the CDC years ago, but never embarked upon?

Data will set you free.

It might be the prevailing context but it literally isn't what he said.

He's had plenty of opportunities to provide that context, has he?

You said it earlier, he is Spandos level nutty.

Dude. I've seen shit in the medical industry that would absolutely piss you off. Did you know that food allergies were ridiculed up until insurance started paying for the testing? Now they're okay all of a sudden.

Did you know that when they changed the protocol for Pap Smears back in 2009 from every year to every three years, the doctors were savaging the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology as "fucking idiots"? Why? Because they thought they would lose business.

Did you know Gastroenterologists trashed fecal genetic testing of stool samples to determine if people had precancerous lesions? The test was designed for those that would NOT get a colonoscopy. If you tested positive on the test, you had to go get a colonoscopy. It would have driven business to the doctor, but they trashed the test out of fear of losing patients.

RFK may sound nutty to you, but I've seen enough to know he's barking up the right tree and money collected drives doctors decisions.

[SeattleGriz]

I obviously don't agree with Cruise Captain Krystol, but this to me was very interesting. Trump absolutely LOVES his Operation Warp Speed and this is the first time I seen him talk about it possibly not being a good as he thought.

To answer your question, vaccines are great, but they need to be fully vetted and possibly changed. When I say changed, I mean create them so they are more like how you would encounter them in real life. That won't always work, but we should be trying to maximize that aspect.

Not sure if you remember, but I stated many times during Covid that if they had used an attenuated vaccine that we could sniff up our noses, I would have had zero objections. For me, the risk of taking an EUA developed vaccine using novel technologies, was too great.

A example of what I'm driving at would be how parents of school aged children fared better during Covid. It was because kids are constantly bringing home every flipping respiratory illness and spreading it to parents. It's almost as if children are continually "micro dosing" parents. How do we naturally microdose people?

And the vaccines saved millions of lives worldwide. You do realize people much smarter than you on this matter who’ve worked in the field for decades considered your concerns?

Our kids socially distanced, used best practices, and followed expert advice both during at home learning and once returned.

No one in the family got Covid until nearly 5 years in and thanks in part to the vaccines it was totally manageable.

You have no clue how many lives were saved. I've explained to you many times that modeling is one of the lowest forms of evidence.

The only thing they can count on is deaths and it was exactly as predicted. Those who are most fearful during cold and flu season were the targets.

My kids went to school and were tested over 25 times due to positive cases in their classes and never got COVID. My family did not get vaccinated and we did not get Covid.

Shocking we were at opposite ends of the spectrum and we fared just as well as you, but we didn't inject modified RNA into our bodies.

Nice appeal to authority as usual.

[kalm]

And the vaccines saved millions of lives worldwide. You do realize people much smarter than you on this matter who’ve worked in the field for decades considered your concerns?

Our kids socially distanced, used best practices, and followed expert advice both during at home learning and once returned.

No one in the family got Covid until nearly 5 years in and thanks in part to the vaccines it was totally manageable.

You have no clue how many lives were saved. I've explained to you many times that modeling is one of the lowest forms of evidence.

The only thing they can count on is deaths and it was exactly as predicted. Those who are most fearful during cold and flu season were the targets.

My kids went to school and were tested over 25 times due to positive cases in their classes and never got COVID. My family did not get vaccinated and we did not get Covid.

Shocking we were at opposite ends of the spectrum and we fared just as well as you, but we didn't inject modified RNA into our bodies.

Nice appeal to authority as usual.

No matter how often you make these points they simply do not land. But keep insisting you had it figured out over the greatest epidemiologists, virologists, and data analysts in the world.

It’s truly convincing.

Hope they release the new mRNA vax soon and can figure out new funding for advancing the research gains for cancer.

[SeattleGriz]

You have no clue how many lives were saved. I've explained to you many times that modeling is one of the lowest forms of evidence.

The only thing they can count on is deaths and it was exactly as predicted. Those who are most fearful during cold and flu season were the targets.

My kids went to school and were tested over 25 times due to positive cases in their classes and never got COVID. My family did not get vaccinated and we did not get Covid.

Shocking we were at opposite ends of the spectrum and we fared just as well as you, but we didn't inject modified RNA into our bodies.

Nice appeal to authority as usual.

No matter how often you make these points they simply do not land. But keep insisting you had it figured out over the greatest epidemiologists, virologists, and data analysts in the world.

It’s truly convincing.

Hope they release the new mRNA vax soon and can figure out new funding for advancing the research gains for cancer.

Love how you believe in millions of years of Evolution and the fine tuning of our immune systems, but buy into your supposed "experts" who were continuously wrong about COVID and their vaccine, that they are smarter than those million years of evolution. Millions of years of evolution surpassed by 25 years of mRNA research. Wow, we are now our own Gods. Don't need no stinkin' Evolution.

Your faith is misplaced. My family fared just as well as yours, if not better, but we didn't have to inject modified RNA into our systems. That is fact.

Lastly, I'm not on an island in my thoughts. You saw the censorship of experts in those fields get censored if they didn't toe the line. Now you are butthurt those experts are in control.

[kalm]

No matter how often you make these points they simply do not land. But keep insisting you had it figured out over the greatest epidemiologists, virologists, and data analysts in the world.

It’s truly convincing.

Hope they release the new mRNA vax soon and can figure out new funding for advancing the research gains for cancer.

Love how you believe in millions of years of Evolution and the fine tuning of our immune systems, but buy into your supposed "experts" who were continuously wrong about COVID and their vaccine, that they are smarter than those million years of evolution. Millions of years of evolution surpassed by 25 years of mRNA research. Wow, we are now our own Gods. Don't need no stinkin' Evolution.

Your faith is misplaced. My family fared just as well as yours, if not better, but we didn't have to inject modified RNA into our systems. That is fact.

Lastly, I'm not on an island in my thoughts. You saw the censorship of experts in those fields get censored if they didn't toe the line. Now you are butthurt those experts are in control.

Meh. Evolution can be pro-pandemic.

Besides…the world is only 6,000 years old.

[kalm]

[UNI88]

Exclusive: RFK Jr. and the White House buried a major study on alcohol and cancer. Here’s what it shows.

For the past three years, the industry, aided by its allies in Congress and later the Trump administration, has sought to discredit and eventually bury a major analysis that offers new evidence of the link between drinking alcohol and getting sick and dying from various causes, including cancer.

It appears their campaign has succeeded. Three co-authors on the Alcohol Intake and Health Study, which was commissioned in early 2022 by the US Department of Health and Human Services under President Joe Biden, told Vox that they were informed last month that the Trump administration did not intend to publish the final draft of the study or its findings.
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By the end of the year, the federal government will issue new dietary guidelines — something that happens every five years — which include recommended limits on alcohol consumption. The alcohol study’s results were intended to inform those guidelines.
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But after the authors submitted their final report to Trump’s health department in March and never saw it again, Reuters reported in June, citing anonymous sources, that the new dietary guidelines would eliminate any specific recommended limits on alcohol consumption.
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It is another example of the Trump administration seeming to work against the best interest of public health — despite allying itself closely with Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his Make America Healthy Again movement.

Making America Healthy Again ... but we're going to pick and choose what we think is unhealthy and ignore the data where it doesn't align with our agenda.

[Bobcat]

We know, you guys have been doing just that for decades. Thats why we are in the mess we are in now

[Caribbean Hen]

Exclusive: RFK Jr. and the White House buried a major study on alcohol and cancer. Here’s what it shows.

For the past three years, the industry, aided by its allies in Congress and later the Trump administration, has sought to discredit and eventually bury a major analysis that offers new evidence of the link between drinking alcohol and getting sick and dying from various causes, including cancer.

It appears their campaign has succeeded. Three co-authors on the Alcohol Intake and Health Study, which was commissioned in early 2022 by the US Department of Health and Human Services under President Joe Biden, told Vox that they were informed last month that the Trump administration did not intend to publish the final draft of the study or its findings.
...
By the end of the year, the federal government will issue new dietary guidelines — something that happens every five years — which include recommended limits on alcohol consumption. The alcohol study’s results were intended to inform those guidelines.
...
But after the authors submitted their final report to Trump’s health department in March and never saw it again, Reuters reported in June, citing anonymous sources, that the new dietary guidelines would eliminate any specific recommended limits on alcohol consumption.
...
It is another example of the Trump administration seeming to work against the best interest of public health — despite allying itself closely with Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his Make America Healthy Again movement.

Making America Healthy Again ... but we're going to pick and choose what we think is unhealthy and ignore the data where it doesn't align with our agenda.

Doesn’t everybody already know that?

[SeattleGriz]

This is logical fallacy grand champ. Let's just lump everything I name into a VAST conspiracy pool.

Here's how the rest of the world treats the COVID vaccine, as we have just changed. Watch how Klans love of everything EU changes now that we are matching protocols.

[SeattleGriz]

Exclusive: RFK Jr. and the White House buried a major study on alcohol and cancer. Here’s what it shows.



Making America Healthy Again ... but we're going to pick and choose what we think is unhealthy and ignore the data where it doesn't align with our agenda.

Doesn’t everybody already know that?

No shit. It's like telling me water is wet, but Uni St Behar is on a rampage.

[UNI88]

Doesn’t everybody already know that?

No shit. It's like telling me water is wet, but Uni St Behar is on a rampage.

Then why are they burying it? Shouldn’t be a problem to publish the study if everybody already knows it.

Or are you two stooges attempting to deflect attention from the reality that trump and rfk jr care more about pushing their agenda than they do making America healthier?


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[kalm]

This is logical fallacy grand champ. Let's just lump everything I name into a VAST conspiracy pool.

Here's how the rest of the world treats the COVID vaccine, as we have just changed. Watch how Klans love of everything EU changes now that we are matching protocols.

WAAAHHHHH!

Everything I don’t like is a logical fallacy!

Bernie smack down….

[SeattleGriz]

No shit. It's like telling me water is wet, but Uni St Behar is on a rampage.

Then why are they burying it? Shouldn’t be a problem to publish the study if everybody already knows it.

Or are you two stooges attempting to deflect attention from the reality that trump and rfk jr care more about pushing their agenda than they do making America healthier?


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You found it didn't you?

[SeattleGriz]

This is logical fallacy grand champ. Let's just lump everything I name into a VAST conspiracy pool.

Here's how the rest of the world treats the COVID vaccine, as we have just changed. Watch how Klans love of everything EU changes now that we are matching protocols.

WAAAHHHHH!

Everything I don’t like is a logical fallacy!

Bernie smack down….

Look at those European numbers you love so much.
65 and older.

Science denier.

[kalm]

WAAAHHHHH!

Everything I don’t like is a logical fallacy!

Bernie smack down….

Look at those European numbers you love so much.
65 and older.

Science denier.

Over 65, and?

[Caribbean Hen]

It might be the prevailing context but it literally isn't what he said.

He's had plenty of opportunities to provide that context, has he?

You said it earlier, he is Spandos level nutty.

Dude. I've seen shit in the medical industry that would absolutely piss you off. Did you know that food allergies were ridiculed up until insurance started paying for the testing? Now they're okay all of a sudden.

Did you know that when they changed the protocol for Pap Smears back in 2009 from every year to every three years, the doctors were savaging the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology as "fucking idiots"? Why? Because they thought they would lose business.

Did you know Gastroenterologists trashed fecal genetic testing of stool samples to determine if people had precancerous lesions? The test was designed for those that would NOT get a colonoscopy. If you tested positive on the test, you had to go get a colonoscopy. It would have driven business to the doctor, but they trashed the test out of fear of losing patients.

RFK may sound nutty to you, but I've seen enough to know he's barking up the right tree and money collected drives doctors decisions.

I asked about genetic testing 15 years ago and how it relates to generally healthy people over paying for health insurance over the course of their life

Like when you’re hired for a corporate job instead of giving you a form about health insurance and retirement plans they send you for genetic testing that would predict your chances of developing disease and your life expectancy…

Once the results are in they present you with some otough options

Johnny, You have a 3% chance of developing cancer over the next 40 years. In fact, your genetics look pretty good and forecast you to live until you’re about 88 years old. The truth is you would only need to go to the doctors office about two or three times over the course of your life.. you might consider forgoing healthcare insurance and just pay for your doctor visits out-of-pocket because it is forecasted you will save about a 500k if you do it this way. We suggest this because you are a single man with no wife or children right now.

Another option for you would be to take the $900 a month you would pay for healthcare and invest it into an index fund instead. You have a 97% chance of having $1.5 million in your account when you’re 65 years old.

It’s your choice Johnny and it’s a tough choice, especially with the scare tactics and profit generating mechanisms the healthcare industry uses on people to maximize profits

The opposite scenario presents a lot of challenges as well when basically a corporation discovers after you are hired that you have a 50% chance of developing cancer over the next 10 years…..

[SeattleGriz]

Look at those European numbers you love so much.
65 and older.

Science denier.

Over 65, and?

You love Europe and they have shunned the COVID shot.

[SeattleGriz]

Dude. I've seen shit in the medical industry that would absolutely piss you off. Did you know that food allergies were ridiculed up until insurance started paying for the testing? Now they're okay all of a sudden.

Did you know that when they changed the protocol for Pap Smears back in 2009 from every year to every three years, the doctors were savaging the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology as "fucking idiots"? Why? Because they thought they would lose business.

Did you know Gastroenterologists trashed fecal genetic testing of stool samples to determine if people had precancerous lesions? The test was designed for those that would NOT get a colonoscopy. If you tested positive on the test, you had to go get a colonoscopy. It would have driven business to the doctor, but they trashed the test out of fear of losing patients.

RFK may sound nutty to you, but I've seen enough to know he's barking up the right tree and money collected drives doctors decisions.

I asked about genetic testing 15 years ago and how it relates to generally healthy people over paying for health insurance over the course of their life

Like when you’re hired for a corporate job instead of giving you a form about health insurance and retirement plans they send you for genetic testing that would predict your chances of developing disease and your life expectancy…

Once the results are in they present you with some otough options

Johnny, You have a 3% chance of developing cancer over the next 40 years. In fact, your genetics look pretty good and forecast you to live until you’re about 88 years old. The truth is you would only need to go to the doctors office about two or three times over the course of your life.. you might consider forgoing healthcare insurance and just pay for your doctor visits out-of-pocket because it is forecasted you will save about a 500k if you do it this way. We suggest this because you are a single man with no wife or children right now.

Another option for you would be to take the $900 a month you would pay for healthcare and invest it into an index fund instead. You have a 97% chance of having $1.5 million in your account when you’re 65 years old.

It’s your choice Johnny and it’s a tough choice, especially with the scare tactics and profit generating mechanisms the healthcare industry uses on people to maximize profits

The opposite scenario presents a lot of challenges as well when basically a corporation discovers after you are hired that you have a 50% chance of developing cancer over the next 10 years…..

Exactly. Klan, this is how it's done, lazy ass.

[kalm]

Over 65, and?

You love Europe and they have shunned the COVID shot.

Have they?

[BDKJMU]

[UNI88]

[Bobcat]

Yep thats about as accurate of a poll as can be. They dont just call voters in Dade county or some liberal center in Jew York City