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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:14 am Strange type of populism and ending government waste going on here. But hey! We cut $33 million in Guatemala!

So Bill Clinton was a populist?

Dude, there is nothing wrong at all with cutting pork and government waste out of our budget

I agree it’s not much in the big picture, but you really have to start somewhere so suck it up and stop whining
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:14 am
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:56 am

Oh wah. Cry me a fucking river. The msm protects both sides.

In an oligarchy like ours with legalized corruption in the form of political contributions, the establishment is the deep state. It shields wealth and corrupt power at the expense of the people. :coffee:
Yeah, you were crying a river when Musk was going after the corruption in our government like NGOs and USAID
Yes. Which is the same as what we’re talking about here, how?

Again. Instead of trying to score points by refuting honest questions and ideas with smack, why not just have an honest discussion?

Are you capable of a thoughtful honest discussion based in agreed upon facts and reason?
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:30 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:14 am

Yeah, you were crying a river when Musk was going after the corruption in our government like NGOs and USAID
Yes. Which is the same as what we’re talking about here, how?

Again. Instead of trying to score points by refuting honest questions and ideas with smack, why not just have an honest discussion?

Are you capable of a thoughtful honest discussion based in agreed upon facts and reason?
I’m being honest and truth is something you don’t comprehend well at all
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When signed by Trump, it will block $8 billion in funding to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and $1 billion to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for the remainder of the fiscal year. The dollars had been allocated by Congress for the duration of fiscal year 2025.

Clawback Bill

$9 billion of pork cut out of our budget
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:59 am When signed by Trump, it will block $8 billion in funding to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and $1 billion to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for the remainder of the fiscal year. The dollars had been allocated by Congress for the duration of fiscal year 2025.

Clawback Bill

$9 billion of pork cut out of our budget
Offset by tax cuts for the rich which put us further in debt.
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:36 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:59 am When signed by Trump, it will block $8 billion in funding to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and $1 billion to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for the remainder of the fiscal year. The dollars had been allocated by Congress for the duration of fiscal year 2025.

Clawback Bill

$9 billion of pork cut out of our budget
Offset by tax cuts for the rich which put us further in debt.
Why do you wanna continue to see the working class get crushed

We don’t need to raise taxes on the working class right now. I know Biden didn’t care about them, but the current administration seems to.

A tax cut doesn’t necessarily mean they’re gonna collect less Tax revenue because the rich should have a heck of a lot more taxable income
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:57 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:36 am

Offset by tax cuts for the rich which put us further in debt.
Why do you wanna continue to see the working class get crushed

We don’t need to raise taxes on the working class right now. I know Biden didn’t care about them, but the current administration seems to.

A tax cut doesn’t necessarily mean they’re gonna collect less Tax revenue because the rich should have a heck of a lot more taxable income
What? :rofl:
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Teachers should be paid as much as ICE.

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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:02 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:57 am

Why do you wanna continue to see the working class get crushed

We don’t need to raise taxes on the working class right now. I know Biden didn’t care about them, but the current administration seems to.

A tax cut doesn’t necessarily mean they’re gonna collect less Tax revenue because the rich should have a heck of a lot more taxable income
What? :rofl:
Why do you hate the working class?

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/ ... g-families

The truth is, the Trump tax cuts resulted in economic growth that was a full percentage point above CBO’s forecast, and federal revenues far outpaced the agency’s predictions. In fact, under Trump tax policies in 2022, tax revenues reached a record high of nearly $5 trillion, and revenues averaged $205 billion above CBO predictions for the four years following implementation of the law.

Beyond what the Trump tax cuts did for economic growth and federal revenues, it provided major benefits to working families. The officially reported poverty level fell to its lowest rate in 50 years and unemployment rates for minorities and those without a college degree hit all-time lows. Real median household income rose by $5,000, and wages went up by nearly 5 percent. Americans earning under $100,000 saw an average tax cut of 16 percent. And while the tax burden on low-income families went down, the top one percent saw their share of federal taxes go up.

On the other hand, President Biden's promise for the expiration of the Trump tax cuts, means a family of four making $75,000 today will owe Uncle Sam an extra $1,500 in taxes. The Child Tax Credit will be slashed in half; small businesses will see their tax rates top 40 percent; and farmers may have to weigh selling the family business to pay a rising death tax. In his budget, President Biden has called for upwards of $7 trillion in new taxes. Republicans believe working families do not need the IRS taking any more out of their pockets, especially at a time when they are already paying for the nearly 20 percent increase in prices under ‘Bidenflation.’
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:12 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:02 am

What? :rofl:
Why do you hate the working class?

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/ ... g-families

The truth is, the Trump tax cuts resulted in economic growth that was a full percentage point above CBO’s forecast, and federal revenues far outpaced the agency’s predictions. In fact, under Trump tax policies in 2022, tax revenues reached a record high of nearly $5 trillion, and revenues averaged $205 billion above CBO predictions for the four years following implementation of the law.

Beyond what the Trump tax cuts did for economic growth and federal revenues, it provided major benefits to working families. The officially reported poverty level fell to its lowest rate in 50 years and unemployment rates for minorities and those without a college degree hit all-time lows. Real median household income rose by $5,000, and wages went up by nearly 5 percent. Americans earning under $100,000 saw an average tax cut of 16 percent. And while the tax burden on low-income families went down, the top one percent saw their share of federal taxes go up.

On the other hand, President Biden's promise for the expiration of the Trump tax cuts, means a family of four making $75,000 today will owe Uncle Sam an extra $1,500 in taxes. The Child Tax Credit will be slashed in half; small businesses will see their tax rates top 40 percent; and farmers may have to weigh selling the family business to pay a rising death tax. In his budget, President Biden has called for upwards of $7 trillion in new taxes. Republicans believe working families do not need the IRS taking any more out of their pockets, especially at a time when they are already paying for the nearly 20 percent increase in prices under ‘Bidenflation.’
You’re missing my point.

Provide tax relief AND/or adequately fund government programs that help the working class.

That stimulates the economy.

Increase taxes on the rich and make more strategic cuts to spending (EG military spending, oil and gas subsidies) to start bringing down the debt.
However, with an extension, the largest tax cuts would accrue to the highest-income families, the Treasury said.

Household in the top 5% — who earn more than $450,000 a year, roughly — are the "biggest winners," according to a July 2024 analysis by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. They'd get over 45% of the benefits of extending the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, it said.

A Penn Wharton Budget Model analysis on the impacts of the broad Republican tax plan had a similar finding.

The bottom 80% of income earners would get 29% of the total value of proposed tax cuts in 2026, according to the Wharton analysis, issued Thursday. The top 10% would get 56% of the value, it said.


This dynamic speaks to Democrats' arguments, especially when coupled with possible spending cuts for programs like Medicaid and food stamps. Such programs largely benefit lower earners.

Wharton estimates that the combination of tax cuts and spending reductions for programs like Medicaid and food stamps would leave "low-income households worse off," even after accounting for economic growth.

Some tax analysts view after-tax income as among the best frames of reference to assess policy impact, because it estimates how much a household's buying power improves. Others disagree, however, saying it's hard to control for other economic variables that might alter income.

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The top 1% of households (who make about $1 million or more a year) would get a 3.2% boost in after-tax income in 2027 via an extension of the Trump law, the Tax Policy Center said. In dollar terms, their tax savings would be about $70,000, on average.

By comparison, middle-income households, would get a 1.3% income boost, or a $1,000 tax cut, according to the Tax Policy Center
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:03 am Teachers should be paid as much as ICE.

Further proof that you shouldnt let your kids withing 500 ft of a public school
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Bobcat wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:24 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:03 am Teachers should be paid as much as ICE.

Further proof that you shouldnt let your kids withing 500 ft of a public school
What does that even mean? :lol:
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Here’s another way to put it.

People who want to defund education and educational programming like NPR and PBS desire a less informed and COMPLIANT public. Why?

MAGA - the party of big government and less ideas.
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:14 am
Bobcat wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:24 am

Further proof that you shouldnt let your kids withing 500 ft of a public school
What does that even mean? :lol:
First of all she's a public school teacher so she's probably mentally ill

Second if she's not quitting her job for the signing bonus and 100k a year I don't want that idiot anywhere near young minds.

You also have to wonder about the mind of a person that chooses to be a teacher knowing what they make and still complaining about it. Not smart and they only have to work 9 months a year so shes overpaid as it is
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:36 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:59 am When signed by Trump, it will block $8 billion in funding to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and $1 billion to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for the remainder of the fiscal year. The dollars had been allocated by Congress for the duration of fiscal year 2025.

Clawback Bill

$9 billion of pork cut out of our budget
Offset by tax cuts for the rich which put us further in debt.
LoL the income tax rates for ‘the rich’ stayed the same as they have been since 2017. There were no tax cuts for the rich despite what the lying donks said who were criticizing the bill as major tax cuts ‘for the rich’ and lying conks said who were praising keeping tax rates the same as major tax cuts (including Trump).
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:45 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:36 am

Offset by tax cuts for the rich which put us further in debt.
LoL the income tax rates for ‘the rich’ stayed the same as they have been since 2017. There were no tax cuts for the rich despite what the lying donks said who were criticizing the bill as major tax cuts ‘for the rich’ and lying conks said who were praising keeping tax rates the same as major tax cuts (including Trump).
lol ok continuation of tax cuts with a huge amount of debt. And not one peep about cutting defense or fossil fuel subsidies or fancy birthday parades or rose garden demolition. :lol:

But hey…cut education, Medicare, food stamps…that will help the working class for sure!

Deficit hawks are a joke. Always have been. :coffee:

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Bobcat wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:46 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:14 am

What does that even mean? :lol:
First of all she's a public school teacher so she's probably mentally ill

Second if she's not quitting her job for the signing bonus and 100k a year I don't want that idiot anywhere near young minds.

You also have to wonder about the mind of a person that chooses to be a teacher knowing what they make and still complaining about it. Not smart and they only have to work 9 months a year so shes overpaid as it is
Why would being a public school teacher indicate mental illness? Why do you hate educated people?
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:03 am Teachers should be paid as much as ICE.

LoL no. She should work for about 10-12 more weeks of the year 1st.

Teachers (my brother is one) are under contract for around 190 days of a 180 day school year. 260 work days a year (52 weeks x 5) that’s equivalent to about 12 weeks off + holidays off. +sick days.

ICE/CBP agents.
-The salary #s are based on a 50 hr work week with LEAP (Law Enforcement Availability Pay) or AUO (Administratively Uncontrollable OT) basically 25% more pay for working 50 hrs.
-Working most holidays, some weekends, and some nights.

Fed LEOs:
1st 3 years: 13 days vacation (4 hrs pay period) so have 247 days a year (260 work days -13).
3-15 years: 20 days vacation (6 hrs a pay period) so have 240 work days.
15+ years: 26 days vacation (8 hrs a pay period) so have 234 work days. (Again 10 hr days/50 hr weeks)

(Fed wide I believe sick days are 13 days a year (4 hrs every of 26 pay periods).
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:59 am When signed by Trump, it will block $8 billion in funding to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and $1 billion to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting for the remainder of the fiscal year. The dollars had been allocated by Congress for the duration of fiscal year 2025.

Clawback Bill

$9 billion of pork cut out of our budget
Yep, and the 9.4 billion recission bill is only the 1st of several. And if I understand it correctly, that 9.4 billion saved FY2026, and probably closer to 10 billion the next year, and more the following year, etc. In other words it’s a gift that keeps on giving.

And that is only the 1st of several recission bills Congress will be passing. That is going to be one of the new words of the year, ‘recission’.
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:04 pm
Bobcat wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:46 am

First of all she's a public school teacher so she's probably mentally ill

Second if she's not quitting her job for the signing bonus and 100k a year I don't want that idiot anywhere near young minds.

You also have to wonder about the mind of a person that chooses to be a teacher knowing what they make and still complaining about it. Not smart and they only have to work 9 months a year so shes overpaid as it is
Why would being a public school teacher indicate mental illness? Why do you hate educated people?
For me, I don’t hate educated people. It’s just the ones that wave their degrees around, but are still dumb as a rock that I don’t particularly care for
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:03 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:45 pm
LoL the income tax rates for ‘the rich’ stayed the same as they have been since 2017. There were no tax cuts for the rich despite what the lying donks said who were criticizing the bill as major tax cuts ‘for the rich’ and lying conks said who were praising keeping tax rates the same as major tax cuts (including Trump).
lol ok continuation of tax cuts with a huge amount of debt. And not one peep about cutting defense or fossil fuel subsidies or fancy birthday parades or rose garden demolition. :lol:

But hey…cut education, Medicare, food stamps…that will help the working class for sure!

Deficit hawks are a joke. Always have been. :coffee:

LoL there are no fossil fuel subsidies.
lol there are no cuts to Medicare.

Maybe you meant Medicaid. Medicaid spending dollar for dollar will still go up over 10 years. Only with DC math is a slowdown in the rate of growth a cut. But now freeloaders will have a modest work requirement, and illegal aliens get kicked off of Medicaid.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:35 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:04 pm
Why would being a public school teacher indicate mental illness? Why do you hate educated people?
For me, I don’t hate educated people. It’s just the ones that wave their degrees around, but are still dumb as a rock that I don’t particularly care for
:nod: They're almost as bad as the ones who call themselves stable geniuses but are still dumb as a rock.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:55 pm
If you’re a humorless America hater. :coffee:

Colbert will be fine. He has options one of which is to retire.
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