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It's good that you can see the many similarities between woke trans ideologists and MAQA yahoo ideologists.
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driving in circles and turning left must be harder than it looksBDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:00 pmhttps://redstate.com/katie-jerkovich/20 ... h-n2189942Major Sports Finally Ditching Pride Month
Major sports have finally decided it is time to ditch promoting the so-called Pride month of June, and that includes NASCAR and more than a handful of NFL teams.
One noticeable difference from the last few years was the silence from the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing, considering they've pushed Pride month hard in the past, despite the fact that its audience isn't interested in seeing it promote the community in the slightest…
….I am happy to report that on Monday, there is still not one post from NASCAR promoting Pride. Clearly, the association understands its audience, and whoever was in charge of these posts in the past is no longer there or has been told to knock it off….
Ten NFL teams followed suit and, as of Monday, have yet to make one reference to June Pride month, the LGBTQ community, etc. The discrepancy between the following post and our report is that the two teams listed below have since made Pride posts…
…As popular social and political commentator Asmongold found, major businesses that once plastered their logos with the Pride flag the moment June 1 rolled around have kept their logos virtue-signal-free.
These include
-Microsoft
-IBM
-Xbox
-Target
-Starbucks
Those last three on the list are especially surprising. Target is one of those brands that's so loud about their participation in Pride that they once offered clothing for "trans kids" to help tuck themselves to appear more like a girl.
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Just another move by Hegseth to piss people off rather than do anything productive. Orders the renaming of the USNS Harvey Milk, and times the release of this order to be right at the start of Pride Month. Literally no other reason to do this other than to piss people off. It's a USNS ship, meaning that the US Navy owns it, but it's not even a commissioned ship and is mainly staffed by civilian mariners. It's a replenishment ship, so it doesn't even see fighting, so shouldn't go against Hegseth's stated desire to focus on warfighting. And apparently there are plans underway to rename all the ships in the class as the naming convention has been to name the ships after civil rights leaders. This could be classified as petty, but with Hegseth he never seems to even rise that high.
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As should sexually insecure trad parents I guess.
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Other than the fact that the outgoing Obama admin in 2016 never should have named a Navy ship after an according to his own biographer homosexual predator who had a thing for underage boys, while making thousands of sailors who served on her the the butt (pun intended) of jokes. Milk was just one of many leftist cause celebs that the Obama admin named a ship after..GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 12:52 pm Just another move by Hegseth to piss people off rather than do anything productive. Orders the renaming of the USNS Harvey Milk, and times the release of this order to be right at the start of Pride Month. Literally no other reason to do this other than to piss people off. It's a USNS ship, meaning that the US Navy owns it, but it's not even a commissioned ship and is mainly staffed by civilian mariners. It's a replenishment ship, so it doesn't even see fighting, so shouldn't go against Hegseth's stated desire to focus on warfighting. And apparently there are plans underway to rename all the ships in the class as the naming convention has been to name the ships after civil rights leaders. This could be classified as petty, but with Hegseth he never seems to even rise that high.
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Proof from a reliable source?BDKJMU wrote:Other than the fact that the outgoing Obama admin in 2016 never should have named a Navy ship after an according to his own biographer homosexual predator who had a thing for underage boys, while making thousands of sailors who served on her the the butt (pun intended) of jokes. Milk was just one of many leftist cause celebs that the Obama admin named a ship after..GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 12:52 pm Just another move by Hegseth to piss people off rather than do anything productive. Orders the renaming of the USNS Harvey Milk, and times the release of this order to be right at the start of Pride Month. Literally no other reason to do this other than to piss people off. It's a USNS ship, meaning that the US Navy owns it, but it's not even a commissioned ship and is mainly staffed by civilian mariners. It's a replenishment ship, so it doesn't even see fighting, so shouldn't go against Hegseth's stated desire to focus on warfighting. And apparently there are plans underway to rename all the ships in the class as the naming convention has been to name the ships after civil rights leaders. This could be classified as petty, but with Hegseth he never seems to even rise that high.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-new-n ... s-leaders/
And if they rename the USNS Thurgood Marshall, USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg, or USNS Harriet Tubman?
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And waiting purposely for June, when many recognize Pride Month, to do this makes it pretty clear that Hegseth wanted this to be an anti-LGBTQ thing. If it was just about renaming ships he could've done that any time prior to now, since apparently they had already decided to do this. Delaying the announcement to coincide with Pride Month sums it up that he wanted to provoke people. There are 10 ships of this class already named, and 6 of them are already afloat. Please let us know the "many" ships that are named after leftist cause celebs.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 8:07 pmOther than the fact that the outgoing Obama admin in 2016 never should have named a Navy ship after an according to his own biographer homosexual predator who had a thing for underage boys, while making thousands of sailors who served on her the the butt (pun intended) of jokes. Milk was just one of many leftist cause celebs that the Obama admin named a ship after..GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 12:52 pm Just another move by Hegseth to piss people off rather than do anything productive. Orders the renaming of the USNS Harvey Milk, and times the release of this order to be right at the start of Pride Month. Literally no other reason to do this other than to piss people off. It's a USNS ship, meaning that the US Navy owns it, but it's not even a commissioned ship and is mainly staffed by civilian mariners. It's a replenishment ship, so it doesn't even see fighting, so shouldn't go against Hegseth's stated desire to focus on warfighting. And apparently there are plans underway to rename all the ships in the class as the naming convention has been to name the ships after civil rights leaders. This could be classified as petty, but with Hegseth he never seems to even rise that high.
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Yes if they had no ties to the Navy. Navy ships have traditionally been named after places (such as states, cities, towns), famous battles, POTUSes, Admirals, Naval CMH winners, and others with ties to the Navy.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 9:16 pmProof from a reliable source?BDKJMU wrote: Other than the fact that the outgoing Obama admin in 2016 never should have named a Navy ship after an according to his own biographer homosexual predator who had a thing for underage boys, while making thousands of sailors who served on her the the butt (pun intended) of jokes. Milk was just one of many leftist cause celebs that the Obama admin named a ship after..
And if they rename the USNS Thurgood Marshall, USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg, or USNS Harriet Tubman?
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Then provide a link and quotes from the book that show he was a "predator who had a thing for underage boys".BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 7:28 amYes if they had no ties to the Navy. Navy ships have traditionally been named after places (such as states, cities, towns), famous battles, POTUSes, Admirals, Naval CMH winners, and others with ties to the Navy.
Was his biographer Randy Shilts in his book ‘The Mayor of Castro Street’ not reliable?
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In case you think the greater Seattle area is just a bunch left coast commies.
White culture…


White culture…
LACEY, Wash. — On June 3, the Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) reached out to the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office to assist in executing a warrant at a home of suspects “actively involved in Nazi white nationalist efforts” who were accused of a violent robbery and theft of military weapons.
An FBI SWAT team executed the warrant in Lacey, which resulted in the seizure of short barrel rifles, an MG42 machine gun, fire/gas launchers, explosives, body armor, ammunition, and ballistic helmets surrounded by Nazi paraphernalia.
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https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2 ... inley%252CUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 7:48 amThen provide a link and quotes from the book that show he was a "predator who had a thing for underage boys".BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 7:28 am
Yes if they had no ties to the Navy. Navy ships have traditionally been named after places (such as states, cities, towns), famous battles, POTUSes, Admirals, Naval CMH winners, and others with ties to the Navy.
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You quote the American Family Association (AFA) after dismissing so many of kalm's sources? That's
It would appear that the AFA author is calling him a predator not his biographer. Do you have a quote or passage from the book where the biographer calls him a pedophile?
While disgusting it isn't proof that Milk was a pedophile since the age of consent in New York in 1963 was 16. If you're going to judge Milk by today's standards then we have to do the same for a host of others such as Thomas Jefferson.According to The Mayor of Castro Street, Milk's very favorable biography by Randy Shilts, in 1963, when Milk was 33, he took in "Jack" Galen McKinley, a 16-year-old runaway in New York City "who was looking for some kind of father figure," to live with him as a lover.
Milk was no doubt a flawed human being but he was a leader of the early gay rights movement and the irony/hypocrisy of a trump supporter (26+ sexual assaults/rapes) taking a moral stand against him is laughable.
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Not mention Hegseth’s past.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 8:55 amYou quote the American Family Association (AFA) after dismissing so many of kalm's sources? That'sand
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It would appear that the AFA author is calling him a predator not his biographer. Do you have a quote or passage from the book where the biographer calls him a pedophile?
While disgusting it isn't proof that Milk was a pedophile since the age of consent in New York in 1963 was 16. If you're going to judge Milk by today's standards then we have to do the same for a host of others such as Thomas Jefferson.According to The Mayor of Castro Street, Milk's very favorable biography by Randy Shilts, in 1963, when Milk was 33, he took in "Jack" Galen McKinley, a 16-year-old runaway in New York City "who was looking for some kind of father figure," to live with him as a lover.
Milk was no doubt a flawed human being but he was a leader of the early gay rights movement and the irony/hypocrisy of a trump supporter (26+ sexual assaults/rapes) taking a moral stand against him is laughable.
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If the Navy wants to ensure that only people with associations with the Navy are used as names for ships, that's fine. Say that. There aren't that many that don't have a naval connection (only 3 commissioned vessels - Carl Levin, Gabby Giffords, and Henry Jackson, and then a smattering more non-commissioned vessels, and then it's largely the John Lewis class of replenishment ships). Strangely, Harvey Milk actually did have a naval connection as he served in the Navy in the early 1950's until his homosexuality became known and, as the armed forces did at the time, he was discharged. So if you want to say you only want naval connections, then say that out loud and proceed that way.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 7:28 amYes if they had no ties to the Navy. Navy ships have traditionally been named after places (such as states, cities, towns), famous battles, POTUSes, Admirals, Naval CMH winners, and others with ties to the Navy.
Was his biographer Randy Shilts in his book ‘The Mayor of Castro Street’ not reliable?
If you want to make it a point to be antagonistic to gay people then wait until a month that is connected to celebrating gay people and then publicize that you're removing the name of a gay American from a ship that until this moment, very few people knew. Hegseth could've made this move months ago when he adopted his "warfighting" mantra. Instead, he wanted to embitter gay people. So much for focusing on warfighting.
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Hegseth is just following orders and shutting down the madness on "woke" might be one of the reasons recruiting numbers are going back up as people are proud to serve in the military again.... The right kind of prideGannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 9:50 amIf the Navy wants to ensure that only people with associations with the Navy are used as names for ships, that's fine. Say that. There aren't that many that don't have a naval connection (only 3 commissioned vessels - Carl Levin, Gabby Giffords, and Henry Jackson, and then a smattering more non-commissioned vessels, and then it's largely the John Lewis class of replenishment ships). Strangely, Harvey Milk actually did have a naval connection as he served in the Navy in the early 1950's until his homosexuality became known and, as the armed forces did at the time, he was discharged. So if you want to say you only want naval connections, then say that out loud and proceed that way.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 7:28 am
Yes if they had no ties to the Navy. Navy ships have traditionally been named after places (such as states, cities, towns), famous battles, POTUSes, Admirals, Naval CMH winners, and others with ties to the Navy.
Was his biographer Randy Shilts in his book ‘The Mayor of Castro Street’ not reliable?
If you want to make it a point to be antagonistic to gay people then wait until a month that is connected to celebrating gay people and then publicize that you're removing the name of a gay American from a ship that until this moment, very few people knew. Hegseth could've made this move months ago when he adopted his "warfighting" mantra. Instead, he wanted to embitter gay people. So much for focusing on warfighting.
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Hegseth is just following orders and shutting down the madness on "woke" might be one of the reasons recruiting numbers are going back up as people are proud to serve in the military again.... The right kind of prideGannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 9:50 amIf the Navy wants to ensure that only people with associations with the Navy are used as names for ships, that's fine. Say that. There aren't that many that don't have a naval connection (only 3 commissioned vessels - Carl Levin, Gabby Giffords, and Henry Jackson, and then a smattering more non-commissioned vessels, and then it's largely the John Lewis class of replenishment ships). Strangely, Harvey Milk actually did have a naval connection as he served in the Navy in the early 1950's until his homosexuality became known and, as the armed forces did at the time, he was discharged. So if you want to say you only want naval connections, then say that out loud and proceed that way.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 7:28 am
Yes if they had no ties to the Navy. Navy ships have traditionally been named after places (such as states, cities, towns), famous battles, POTUSes, Admirals, Naval CMH winners, and others with ties to the Navy.
Was his biographer Randy Shilts in his book ‘The Mayor of Castro Street’ not reliable?
If you want to make it a point to be antagonistic to gay people then wait until a month that is connected to celebrating gay people and then publicize that you're removing the name of a gay American from a ship that until this moment, very few people knew. Hegseth could've made this move months ago when he adopted his "warfighting" mantra. Instead, he wanted to embitter gay people. So much for focusing on warfighting.
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Woke is a madness created by resentful, fearful people. This decision itself is a form of wokeness. MAGA/Relublican wokeness and cancel culture.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 5:25 amHegseth is just following orders and shutting down the madness on "woke" might be one of the reasons recruiting numbers are going back up as people are proud to serve in the military again.... The right kind of prideGannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 04, 2025 9:50 am
If the Navy wants to ensure that only people with associations with the Navy are used as names for ships, that's fine. Say that. There aren't that many that don't have a naval connection (only 3 commissioned vessels - Carl Levin, Gabby Giffords, and Henry Jackson, and then a smattering more non-commissioned vessels, and then it's largely the John Lewis class of replenishment ships). Strangely, Harvey Milk actually did have a naval connection as he served in the Navy in the early 1950's until his homosexuality became known and, as the armed forces did at the time, he was discharged. So if you want to say you only want naval connections, then say that out loud and proceed that way.
If you want to make it a point to be antagonistic to gay people then wait until a month that is connected to celebrating gay people and then publicize that you're removing the name of a gay American from a ship that until this moment, very few people knew. Hegseth could've made this move months ago when he adopted his "warfighting" mantra. Instead, he wanted to embitter gay people. So much for focusing on warfighting.
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Military has always had gayskalm wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 8:55 amWoke is a madness created by resentful, fearful people. This decision itself is a form of wokeness. MAGA/Relublican wokeness and cancel culture.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 5:25 am
Hegseth is just following orders and shutting down the madness on "woke" might be one of the reasons recruiting numbers are going back up as people are proud to serve in the military again.... The right kind of pride
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Yep.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 10:05 amMilitary has always had gays
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So now apparently the left is against making drug and money laundering arrests. Leftist loons protested a joint task force Minneapolis PD/ATF/DEA/FBI/HSI (and whoever else I left off) raid of a restaurant for drugs and money laundering.

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