MAQA Civil War

[Bobcat]

Multiple posts in the Make America Woke Again thread, again I am not doing your homework. Not to mention you wont own it you will lie and slither like MGR88 does "but Trump" etc

[UNI88]

Poor brandon is triggered when people use Spanish. What a overly sensitive snowflake.

[UNI88]

SALT Republicans, Johnson to meet as impasse hardens

The House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction over taxes, included a $30,000 SALT deduction cap for individuals making less than $400,000 in its portion of the GOP’s megabill — triple the current $10,000 cap — which those in the SALT Caucus rejected. The group is pushing for a higher cap: During a meeting Monday with Johnson and Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee, the group floated a $62,000 cap for single filers and $124,000 for joint filers — a large difference from the proposal in the text.

More proof that MAQA Republicans are not conservatives.

[Bobcat]

Republicans havent been conservative in my lifetime. Republicans are all in it for themselves first and they might spend less than the Dems. Not much offends me but I would get pissed off if someone thought I was Republican, those losers are worse than being a democrat

[UNI88]

Republicans havent been conservative in my lifetime. Republicans are all in it for themselves first and they might spend less than the Dems. Not much offends me but I would get pissed off if someone thought I was Republican, those losers are worse than being a democrat

This is a pretty accurate assessment of the Republican Party under trump.

Might be your best post ever.

[UNI88]

Double post

[Bobcat]

Republicans havent been conservative in my lifetime. Republicans are all in it for themselves first and they might spend less than the Dems. Not much offends me but I would get pissed off if someone thought I was Republican, those losers are worse than being a democrat

This is a pretty accurate assessment of the Republican Party under trump.

Might be your best post ever.

Its not even in the top 100. Are you ever right?

[UNI88]

[UNI88]

It's not just Elon Musk. Other Trump tech allies are turning on his 'big, beautiful bill.'

Elon Musk has announced his opposition to a second major plank of Donald Trump's agenda (after previously turning on the president's tariff plans) when he said in a new interview he was "disappointed" by the price tag of Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

The bill "increases the budget deficit ... and undermines the work that the DOGE team is doing," the world's richest man said in a CBS interview that is scheduled to air in full this weekend.

And Musk is not the only one in the world of tech who has questions.

"This thing is an albatross," said Chamath Palihapitiya, a venture capitalist who co-hosted a fundraiser for Trump during his campaign, on a recent episode of the popular "All-In" podcast.

In the episode, three of the four co-hosts leveled critiques against the bill. Co-host Jason Calacanis called the bill a failure of leadership on Trump's part.

[Caribbean Hen]

It's not just Elon Musk. Other Trump tech allies are turning on his 'big, beautiful bill.'

Elon Musk has announced his opposition to a second major plank of Donald Trump's agenda (after previously turning on the president's tariff plans) when he said in a new interview he was "disappointed" by the price tag of Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

The bill "increases the budget deficit ... and undermines the work that the DOGE team is doing," the world's richest man said in a CBS interview that is scheduled to air in full this weekend.

And Musk is not the only one in the world of tech who has questions.

"This thing is an albatross," said Chamath Palihapitiya, a venture capitalist who co-hosted a fundraiser for Trump during his campaign, on a recent episode of the popular "All-In" podcast.

In the episode, three of the four co-hosts leveled critiques against the bill. Co-host Jason Calacanis called the bill a failure of leadership on Trump's part.

I totally agree with Musk

But I also have said numerous times that politicians are not gonna be able to fix the problem because

One… they wouldn’t be politicians anymore

2. The American people are just a spoiled to do what’s right on the debt

Bessent is saying that that the debt can be controlled and made manageable by growth but we will see

[UNI88]

A surprising coalition of GOP senators holds all the megabill leverage

They’re actually an ideologically diverse bunch — ranging from conservative Josh Hawley of Missouri to centrist Susan Collins of Maine. Yet they have found rare alignment over concerns about what the House-passed version of the GOP domestic-policy megabill does to the national safety-net health program, and they have the leverage to force significant changes in the Senate.

Besides Hawley and Collins, other GOP senators including Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Jerry Moran of Kansas and Jim Justice of West Virginia have also drawn public red lines over health care — and they have some rhetorical backing from President Donald Trump, who has urged congressional Republicans to spare the program as much as possible.

Based on early estimates from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, 10.3 million people would lose coverage under Medicaid if the House-passed bill were to become law — many, if not most, in red states. That could spell trouble for Majority Leader John Thune’s whip count: He can only lose three GOP senators on the expected party-line vote and still have Vice President JD Vance break a tie.

[BDKJMU]

A surprising coalition of GOP senators holds all the megabill leverage

They’re actually an ideologically diverse bunch — ranging from conservative Josh Hawley of Missouri to centrist Susan Collins of Maine. Yet they have found rare alignment over concerns about what the House-passed version of the GOP domestic-policy megabill does to the national safety-net health program, and they have the leverage to force significant changes in the Senate.

Besides Hawley and Collins, other GOP senators including Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Jerry Moran of Kansas and Jim Justice of West Virginia have also drawn public red lines over health care — and they have some rhetorical backing from President Donald Trump, who has urged congressional Republicans to spare the program as much as possible.

Based on early estimates from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, 10.3 million PEOPLE would lose coverage under Medicaid if the House-passed bill were to become law — many, if not most, in red states. That could spell trouble for Majority Leader John Thune’s whip count: He can only lose three GOP senators on the expected party-line vote and still have Vice President JD Vance break a tie.

How many of those aren‘t US Citizens?

[UNI88]

A surprising coalition of GOP senators holds all the megabill leverage

How many of those aren‘t US Citizens?

Irrelevant to the topic of GOP support for trump's big beautiful Deficit Reduction Act.

[UNI88]

Trump ramps up criticism of GOP Sen. Rand Paul amid push to pass funding bill

"Rand Paul has very little understanding of the BBB, especially the tremendous GROWTH that is coming. He loves voting 'NO' on everything, he thinks it's good politics, but it's not," Trump said in a post on his conservative social media platform Tuesday morning.

In a separate post, Trump said Paul "never has any practical or constructive ideas." Over the weekend, Trump said that if Paul votes against the bill, "the GREAT people of Kentucky will never forgive him!"

Paul responded to Trump's attacks on Tuesday, telling ABC News that he has been "pretty consistent" about his position on the deficit.

"From the very beginning, I've been consistent about it," Paul said. "I pointed it out when we have Republican presidents and we have Democrat presidents, so really, there is no change in this."

If you're not 100% with us then you're against us. No dissension or independent thought allowed.

[GannonFan]

Trump ramps up criticism of GOP Sen. Rand Paul amid push to pass funding bill

"Rand Paul has very little understanding of the BBB, especially the tremendous GROWTH that is coming. He loves voting 'NO' on everything, he thinks it's good politics, but it's not," Trump said in a post on his conservative social media platform Tuesday morning.

In a separate post, Trump said Paul "never has any practical or constructive ideas." Over the weekend, Trump said that if Paul votes against the bill, "the GREAT people of Kentucky will never forgive him!"

Paul responded to Trump's attacks on Tuesday, telling ABC News that he has been "pretty consistent" about his position on the deficit.

"From the very beginning, I've been consistent about it," Paul said. "I pointed it out when we have Republican presidents and we have Democrat presidents, so really, there is no change in this."

If you're not 100% with us then you're against us. No dissension or independent thought allowed.

Kinda like how the Dems circled the wagons to try to force Fetterman out once he started thinking on his own.

[UNI88]

Trump ramps up criticism of GOP Sen. Rand Paul amid push to pass funding bill

If you're not 100% with us then you're against us. No dissension or independent thought allowed.

Kinda like how the Dems circled the wagons to try to force Fetterman out once he started thinking on his own.

And how they criticized Manchin and Sinema. Or how trump and Republicans went after Cheney and Kinzinger or criticize Collins, Murkowski, Massie, etc. who don't fully support trump's policies and whims.

Paul and Massie are being criticized for defending conservative positions.

[GannonFan]

Kinda like how the Dems circled the wagons to try to force Fetterman out once he started thinking on his own.

And how they criticized Manchin and Sinema. Or how trump and Republicans went after Cheney and Kinzinger or criticize Collins, Murkowski, Massie, etc. who don't fully support trump's policies and whims.

I will say that Paul and Massie are being criticized for defending traditional conservative values.

You could argue in the same vein that Manchin and Fetterman have been criticized for what used to be traditional, liberal values. It wasn't that long ago that Tripp O'Neil used to talk about having drinks with his GOP opponents after a day of legislating together in Congress. Of course, that's also when Congress would actually legislate, versus whatever it is they do these days.

[UNI88]

And how they criticized Manchin and Sinema. Or how trump and Republicans went after Cheney and Kinzinger or criticize Collins, Murkowski, Massie, etc. who don't fully support trump's policies and whims.

I will say that Paul and Massie are being criticized for defending traditional conservative values.

You could argue in the same vein that Manchin and Fetterman have been criticized for what used to be traditional, liberal values. It wasn't that long ago that Tripp O'Neil used to talk about having drinks with his GOP opponents after a day of legislating together in Congress. Of course, that's also when Congress would actually legislate, versus whatever it is they do these days.

They bloviate.

And when Reagan wanted to get something done, he'd pick up the phone and call Tipp to find common ground. Too bad neither party is interested in finding common ground anymore. This country is at it's greatest when opposing politicians work together rather than demonizing each other.

[kalm]

You could argue in the same vein that Manchin and Fetterman have been criticized for what used to be traditional, liberal values. It wasn't that long ago that Tripp O'Neil used to talk about having drinks with his GOP opponents after a day of legislating together in Congress. Of course, that's also when Congress would actually legislate, versus whatever it is they do these days.

They bloviate.

And when Reagan wanted to get something done, he'd pick up the phone and call Tipp to find common ground. Too bad neither party is interested in finding common ground anymore. This country is at it's greatest when opposing politicians work together rather than demonizing each other.

Fetterman’s stance on Israel drove criticism. Manchin and Sinema were the perfect examples of pay to play legalized bribery and corporatism.

[UNI88]

They bloviate.

And when Reagan wanted to get something done, he'd pick up the phone and call Tipp to find common ground. Too bad neither party is interested in finding common ground anymore. This country is at it's greatest when opposing politicians work together rather than demonizing each other.

Fetterman’s stance on Israel drove criticism. Manchin and Sinema were the perfect examples of pay to play legalized bribery and corporatism.

Criticizing Fetterman’s position is different from questioning his fitness for office. Manchin and Sinema were criticized for representing their constituencies (i.e. more conservative) and opposing Democrat's more liberal/progressive bills. They didn't toe the party line and they got hell for it just like Paul, Massie, Collins, and Murkowski.

[UNI88]

Shots fired.

Will trump keep his cool? Or will the late night rage tweeting/lie socialing begin?

[GannonFan]

Fetterman’s stance on Israel drove criticism. Manchin and Sinema were the perfect examples of pay to play legalized bribery and corporatism.

Criticizing Fetterman’s position is different from questioning his fitness for office. Manchin and Sinema were criticized for representing their constituencies (i.e. more conservative) and opposing Democrat's more liberal/progressive bills. They didn't toe the party line and they got hell for it just like Paul, Massie, Collins, and Murkowski.

Agreed. If the disagreement with Fetterman was just about Israel (and certainly some of it is) then that would be one thing. But the Democrats didn't stop there, they went further and tried to drum him out of office with claims of mental issues. It's not a policy disagreement, it's a case of toe the line or get out of line. Same goes for Manchin and Sinema - sure, they were looking for self and constituencies interests, just like most politicians do. But when those interests veered from the accepted Democratic mantra, they tried to boot them as well. Republicans do the same thing - both parties have focused heavily on party purity. Almost to the exclusion of doing their actual job of legislating.

[Caribbean Hen]

Shots fired.

Will trump keep his cool? Or will the late night rage tweeting/lie socialing begin?

Good on Musk for saying it

[UNI88]

[Caribbean Hen]

Musk said politicians which includes both Republicans and Dems ...