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Yeah…Donny. (Checks history of incorporation and current politicization and grift of Mega churches)…Open THAT can of worms.

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I'd be completely for the elimination of tax exempt status for churches. As long as they are treated, tax-wise, like everyone else, I'm not sure why we wouldn't do that. Probably the same goes for colleges and universities too.

Actually on this, is it just property tax they are exempt from? I assume everyone there pays an income tax, although I could be wrong there. Curious what the tax exempt thing actually applies to.
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:10 am I'd be completely for the elimination of tax exempt status for churches. As long as they are treated, tax-wise, like everyone else, I'm not sure why we wouldn't do that. Probably the same goes for colleges and universities too.

Actually on this, is it just property tax they are exempt from? I assume everyone there pays an income tax, although I could be wrong there. Curious what the tax exempt thing actually applies to.
It’s not just churches. He uses the concept of “public interest” as justification.

Set aside churches for a second. Incorporation is determined by state AG’s. If tax exemption or favoritism or any liabilities are predicated on public interest (like they used to be) then a bunch of long standing corporate entities no longer serve their purpose and should be dissolved.

That’s the can of worms.
“Perhaps Harvard should lose its Tax Exempt Status and be Taxed as a Political Entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and terrorist inspired/supporting “Sickness?” Remember, Tax Exempt Status is totally contingent on acting in the PUBLIC INTEREST!”
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kalm wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:47 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:10 am I'd be completely for the elimination of tax exempt status for churches. As long as they are treated, tax-wise, like everyone else, I'm not sure why we wouldn't do that. Probably the same goes for colleges and universities too.

Actually on this, is it just property tax they are exempt from? I assume everyone there pays an income tax, although I could be wrong there. Curious what the tax exempt thing actually applies to.
It’s not just churches. He uses the concept of “public interest” as justification.

Set aside churches for a second. Incorporation is determined by state AG’s. If tax exemption or favoritism or any liabilities are predicated on public interest (like they used to be) then a bunch of long standing corporate entities no longer serve their purpose and should be dissolved.

That’s the can of worms.
“Perhaps Harvard should lose its Tax Exempt Status and be Taxed as a Political Entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and terrorist inspired/supporting “Sickness?” Remember, Tax Exempt Status is totally contingent on acting in the PUBLIC INTEREST!”
I'm just questioning what we have tax exemption for anyway. What corporate entity would be eliminated if we started taxing it? Why does Harvard need a tax exemption (and again, I assume they are just exempt from property tax, but honestly don't know what else)? Why does the Catholic church need a property tax exemption? There's a difference between lots of non-profits versus say the Ivy League Universities or major league baseball or the Roman Catholic church. What are we exempting and who's getting exempted?
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MAGA is getting their fascistic asses handed to them over this one.

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I love that that guy is in El Salvador.

I voted for this
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US Economy to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away
The US economy is set to lose billions of dollars in revenue in 2025 from a pullback in foreign tourism and boycotts of American products, adding to a growing list of headwinds keeping recession risk elevated.

Arrivals of non-citizens to the US by plane dropped almost 10% in March from a year earlier, according to data published Monday by the International Trade Administration. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. estimates in a worst-case scenario, the hit this year from reduced travel and boycotts could total 0.3% of gross domestic product, which would amount to almost $90 billion.
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The White House pressed for fast negotiations with its shock and awe tariffs. Now it can’t drum up enough interest from a ‘first mover’
In the days after President Trump's April 2 tariff announcement, members of his administration said phones had been ringing off the hook as world leaders lined up to cut new deals.

But the rhetoric out of Trump's cabinet has begun to change since Trump put a 90-day pause on the "reciprocal" tariffs on April 9, with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent now drumming up pressure to push at least a single agreement through.

Nearly two weeks have passed since the “Liberation Day” announcement and more than 75 countries have reportedly contacted the White House to come to new terms.

Foreign leaders have made it clear they want to negotiate with Uncle Sam, with the EU going as far as saying it wants zero trade barriers between the nations.

Trade negotiations are no small undertaking, with billions of dollars of goods and services on the line and potential regulatory changes also an option. But while the Trump administration made it clear it wants to act quickly, not a single deal has yet to be signed even with Canada and Mexico, who were first subjected to tariff threats back in January.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 2:33 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 6:31 pm

You’re reading comprehension skills are shit. You should ask Montana to refund all tuition.




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Faced likely persecution. :rofl: Typical lazy ass suck off gubmint teat logic. He doesn't get to laminate the judges ruling and use it in perpetuity.

There is a new president and new priorities, and MS-13 has been declared a terrorist organization by the Secretary of State.

Good dig about refunding tuition. Finally... something.
Yep. They deported back to El Salvador.
-illegal immigrant from El Salvador,
-member of a terrorist organization (MS-13)
-that immigration courts twice had prior ordered deported
The district court judge can pound sand.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:52 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 2:33 pm

Faced likely persecution. :rofl: Typical lazy ass suck off gubmint teat logic. He doesn't get to laminate the judges ruling and use it in perpetuity.

There is a new president and new priorities, and MS-13 has been declared a terrorist organization by the Secretary of State.

Good dig about refunding tuition. Finally... something.
Yep. They deported back to El Salvador.
-illegal immigrant from El Salvador,
-member of a terrorist organization (MS-13)
-that immigration courts twice had prior ordered deported
The district court judge can pound sand.
The thing is, no one has proven, or even tried to show in court to prove it, that he's a member of MS-13. There's been zero evidence produced to even try to prove that. That's the thing that had to happen to supersede the withholding of removal order and make it allowable to send him back to El Salvador. The government is just wrong here and should be held accountable. Whether this guy in question is a good guy or not, the government should've followed the law and due process before shipping him off, and they didn't do that.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:52 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 2:33 pm

Faced likely persecution. :rofl: Typical lazy ass suck off gubmint teat logic. He doesn't get to laminate the judges ruling and use it in perpetuity.

There is a new president and new priorities, and MS-13 has been declared a terrorist organization by the Secretary of State.

Good dig about refunding tuition. Finally... something.
Yep. They deported back to El Salvador.
-illegal immigrant from El Salvador,
-member of a terrorist organization (MS-13)
-that immigration courts twice had prior ordered deported
The district court judge can pound sand.
I remember when you used to defend the constitution.
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kalm wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:55 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:52 am
Yep. They deported back to El Salvador.
-illegal immigrant from El Salvador,
-member of a terrorist organization (MS-13)
-that immigration courts twice had prior ordered deported
The district court judge can pound sand.
I remember when you used to defend the constitution.
I am in this case.

Why do you hate America?
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Bobcat wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:44 pm If you are not a fan of tariffs then let Nancy Pelosi explain Trumps tariffs and trade policy to you.

She supports Trump on this. Why do you hate Nancy Pelosi?

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16Gs1w9eov/
Funny how BT (Before Trump) the left (Pelosi, Sanders, et al) were vociferous supporters of tariffs..
kalm wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:35 am In the modern sense, Bernie is about as close to a hero as I get.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 12:23 pm
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You didn't say shit then, so don't say shit now.

Yep. (Was actually 2022).
The S&P 500 peaked for the year at 4,796 on its January 3, 2022 close, before declining 25% to its low for the year in October 2022.

In the first 6 months of 2022, the S&P 500 fell 21%, the worst 6-month start to a year since 1970.

On September 13, 2022, the S&P 500 declined by 4.32% in its largest single-day drop since June 2020.

The S&P 500 had the worst results since 2008, with a decline of 19% for the year. The Nasdaq Composite fell 33%.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_st ... et_decline
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:05 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:55 am

I remember when you used to defend the constitution.
I am in this case.

Why do you hate America?
You unequivocally, unconditionally, unapologetically are not.

This one ain’t even remotely close. :rofl:
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:19 pm
Bobcat wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:44 pm If you are not a fan of tariffs then let Nancy Pelosi explain Trumps tariffs and trade policy to you.

She supports Trump on this. Why do you hate Nancy Pelosi?

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16Gs1w9eov/
Funny how BT (Before Trump) the left (Pelosi, Sanders, et al) were vociferous supporters of tariffs..
kalm wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:35 am In the modern sense, Bernie is about as close to a hero as I get.
Funny how BT (Before trump) you (and what used to be the right) were vociferous opponents of tariffs..
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:18 pm Then the costs of many goods bought in the US will skyrocket, and people won't be able to afford them or as much of them anymore. It will also lead to more inflation, which will lead to demands higher wages, which will lead to higher prices of good & services, which will lead to more inflation, which will lead to demands for further higher wages, which will lead to further increases in the costs of goods and services & more inflation and on and on.....

You want protectionism and trade wars. That isn't the way to go. :roll:
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:19 am No, because then all that imported sh*t with a high tariff put on it will get a lot more expensive. And if the same stuff is now produced in the US due to said high tariffs stopping the imports, then you have higher labor, regulatory costs and other business costs. Either way you're paying a lot more for stuff. No thanks.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:36 pm
In 1965, 95% of all American apparel and bedding was produced by textile companies in America. Now it’s less than 2%.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:05 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:55 am

I remember when you used to defend the constitution.
I am in this case.

Why do you hate America?
Because he’s never left the farm
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:10 pm Republican-led House passes bill to limit nationwide orders from federal district judges
The House passed legislation Wednesday mostly along party lines that limits the authority of federal district judges to issue nationwide orders, as Republicans react to several court rulings against the Trump administration.
Do these shortsighted morons not understand that this will be used against them when there's a Democratic President?
One of these <700 Fed district judges should be able to issue a ruling/ injunction enforceable in their respective district. They shouldn’t be able to issue one that has enforceable nationwide, esp when they’ve been judge shopped. The below is clear evidence of judge shopping for nationwide injunctions issued by donk appointed judges.
As of January 2, 2025, of the 679 district court judges, 384 were appointed by Democratic presidents compared to 257 by Republican ones.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicia ... ral_courts

So approx 57% of current (as of Jan) Fed district court judges are donk appointed, YET 92% of injunctions against Trump have come from donk appointed judges.
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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:38 am Our Secretary of Education. Her recipe for school’s success:

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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:24 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:38 am Our Secretary of Education. Her recipe for school’s success:

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https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 10&t=51622
But biden!!!!

I heard but trump!!! for 4 years so it's only fair to throw it back.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:15 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:10 pm Republican-led House passes bill to limit nationwide orders from federal district judges


Do these shortsighted morons not understand that this will be used against them when there's a Democratic President?
One of these <700 Fed district judges should be able to issue a ruling/ injunction enforceable in their respective district. They shouldn’t be able to issue one that has enforceable nationwide, esp when they’ve been judge shopped. The below is clear evidence of judge shopping for nationwide injunctions issued by donk appointed judges.
As of January 2, 2025, of the 679 district court judges, 384 were appointed by Democratic presidents compared to 257 by Republican ones.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicia ... ral_courts

So approx 57% of current (as of Jan) Fed district court judges are donk appointed, YET 92% of injunctions against Trump have come from donk appointed judges.
Similar to how Republicans filed lawsuits against biden's EO's in Texas and other states with MAQA friendly judges?

Or how the trump regime moved immigrants to Louisiana so that they'd be seen by immigration judges more favorable to them?
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:47 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:19 pm
Funny how BT (Before Trump) the left (Pelosi, Sanders, et al) were vociferous supporters of tariffs..

Funny how BT (Before trump) you (and what used to be the right) were vociferous opponents of tariffs..
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:18 pm Then the costs of many goods bought in the US will skyrocket, and people won't be able to afford them or as much of them anymore. It will also lead to more inflation, which will lead to demands higher wages, which will lead to higher prices of good & services, which will lead to more inflation, which will lead to demands for further higher wages, which will lead to further increases in the costs of goods and services & more inflation and on and on.....

You want protectionism and trade wars. That isn't the way to go. :roll:
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:19 am No, because then all that imported sh*t with a high tariff put on it will get a lot more expensive. And if the same stuff is now produced in the US due to said high tariffs stopping the imports, then you have higher labor, regulatory costs and other business costs. Either way you're paying a lot more for stuff. No thanks.
LoL talk about obsessed going back to dig up 15 year old posts. :lol:

I’ve partially evolved on the issue, and didn’t realize the threat China was to the US back in 2010.

I. Anything deemed vital to Nat Security:
-ie the majority of what the military uses
-any goods that without life as we know it in the US would cease to exist.
Should be be made in the USA. That means sourced and assembly. Going to take some years to get back to that, but it should start happening now. If it takes tariffs to help bring that about, then so be it.

II. Imports that should face tariffs:
1.From any country that puts tariffs on US goods
2.From any country that conducts unfair trade practices.
3.For items from point #1 (vital to Nat security or way of life)
Imports that shouldn’t face tariffs: Outside of above 3 points.

III. China is an economic enemy.China (all before Trump)
-Bigger trade deficit than in 2010.
-Had tariffs on US goods.
-Manipulates their currency.
-Conducts govt sanctioned economic espionage and intellectual property theft on a ginormous scale
-Allowed a virus to escape from a lab that cost our economy trillions. Those fuckers owe us.
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