USAID

Political discussions
HI54UNI
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 12394
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:39 pm
I am a fan of: Firing Mark Farley
A.K.A.: Bikinis for JSO
Location: The Panther State

Re: USAID

Post by HI54UNI »

Haven't been on here for months but just knew I'd be able to see Kalm saying that waste is bad but but but Trump!
If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism. Ronald Reagan, 1975.

Progressivism is cancer

All my posts are satire
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:44 am
kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:04 am

And?
It's going to affect black and brown.
Yes…and?
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 28880
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: Sailing the Gulf of Mexico

Re: USAID

Post by UNI88 »

kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:56 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:44 am

It's going to affect black and brown.
Yes…and?
The tweet made it seem like bigoted white farmers were upset that it wasn't only DEI people impacted by the cuts.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

MAQA - putting the Q into qrazy qanon qult qonspiracy theories since 2015.
Caribbean Hen
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7180
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Location: Bermuda Triangle

Re: USAID

Post by Caribbean Hen »

kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:35 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:36 am

what your infected narrative and brain think don't count
You got nothing do ya?

Show where DOGE has provided hard, independent evidence of fraud and waste. Show us where DOGE has made its process transparent.

Kind of important here. Or do you now blindly trust big government? :?
Didn’t need Doge to show me government waste

How bout you?
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 35252
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: USAID

Post by BDKJMU »

HI54UNI wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:55 am Haven't been on here for months but just knew I'd be able to see Kalm saying that waste is bad but but but Trump!
:lol:
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

HI54UNI wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:55 am Haven't been on here for months but just knew I'd be able to see Kalm saying that waste is bad but but but Trump!
Nice retreat.

I still like and respect your thoughts though, Fiver. :thumb:
Image
Image
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:12 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:35 am

You got nothing do ya?

Show where DOGE has provided hard, independent evidence of fraud and waste. Show us where DOGE has made its process transparent.

Kind of important here. Or do you now blindly trust big government? :?
Didn’t need Doge to show me government waste

How bout you?
Nope. Dealt with it my whole life. Likely on deeper levels than you.

And I agree…we don’t need doge.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 35252
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: USAID

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:53 pm
HI54UNI wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:55 am Haven't been on here for months but just knew I'd be able to see Kalm saying that waste is bad but but but Trump!
Nice retreat.

I still like and respect your thoughts though, Fiver. :thumb:
Image
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 31483
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: USAID

Post by Gil Dobie »

kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:56 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:44 am

It's going to affect black and brown.
Yes…and?

The title is misleading. Also women have benefitted from DEI. The post (not you Kalm), is trying to be racist and a USAID program is the topic of the news video, not the entire USAID. Hopefully the waste is removed and the good programs are moved to other agencies.

Millions of dollars going to officers and board members of large companies, many of them news agencies, needs to stop, and there is plenty of that in USAID.
Image
Caribbean Hen
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7180
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Location: Bermuda Triangle

Re: USAID

Post by Caribbean Hen »

kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:54 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:12 pm

Didn’t need Doge to show me government waste

How bout you?
Nope. Dealt with it my whole life. Likely on deeper levels than you.

And I agree…we don’t need doge.
we shouldn't need Elon Musk to do it, but your government left us with no choice
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:05 am
kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:56 am

Yes…and?

The title is misleading. Also women have benefitted from DEI. The post (not you Kalm), is trying to be racist and a USAID program is the topic of the news video, not the entire USAID. Hopefully the waste is removed and the good programs are moved to other agencies.

Millions of dollars going to officers and board members of large companies, many of them news agencies, needs to stop, and there is plenty of that in USAID.
Hmmm. I simply don’t see an attempt at being racist by omitting women in this one instance. I suppose you could make a point that racial oppression has been more prevalent than gender oppression.

I also have trouble finding great offense at diversity or equity or inclusion in general. We have a long rich history of providing less opportunity to certain groups. I’m ok with leveling the playing field a bit.

As a middle aged white male, I had it better than most from the start. To quote Louis CK, I’m not saying white is better…I’m saying being white is WAY better. :)
Image
Image
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:14 am
kalm wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:54 pm

Nope. Dealt with it my whole life. Likely on deeper levels than you.

And I agree…we don’t need doge.
we shouldn't need Elon Musk to do it, but your government left us with no choice
My government? Are you not a U.S. citizen?

And we had no other options than Elon? Are you sure? What special knowledge of governance, government budget processes, and providing for the common good does he alone possess? And why does it have to be just one unelected, unvetted, and unsupervised person who can find efficiency ?
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 35252
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: USAID

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:20 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:05 am


The title is misleading. Also women have benefitted from DEI. The post (not you Kalm), is trying to be racist and a USAID program is the topic of the news video, not the entire USAID. Hopefully the waste is removed and the good programs are moved to other agencies.

Millions of dollars going to officers and board members of large companies, many of them news agencies, needs to stop, and there is plenty of that in USAID.
Hmmm. I simply don’t see an attempt at being racist by omitting women in this one instance. I suppose you could make a point that racial oppression has been more prevalent than gender oppression.

I also have trouble finding great offense at diversity or equity or inclusion in general. We have a long rich history of providing less opportunity to certain groups. I’m ok with leveling the playing field a bit.

As a middle aged white male, I had it better than most from the start. To quote Louis CK, I’m not saying white is better…I’m saying being white is WAY better. :)
If he was referring to employment, 100% true….70, 60, 50, years ago. Take out the ‘WAY’ and sure 40, even 30 years ago. Not so much anymore..
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

BDKJMU wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:09 am
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:20 am

Hmmm. I simply don’t see an attempt at being racist by omitting women in this one instance. I suppose you could make a point that racial oppression has been more prevalent than gender oppression.

I also have trouble finding great offense at diversity or equity or inclusion in general. We have a long rich history of providing less opportunity to certain groups. I’m ok with leveling the playing field a bit.

As a middle aged white male, I had it better than most from the start. To quote Louis CK, I’m not saying white is better…I’m saying being white is WAY better. :)
If he was referring to employment, 100% true….70, 60, 50, years ago. Take out the ‘WAY’ and sure 40, even 30 years ago. Not so much anymore..
Tell me you’ve never seen that infamous comedy bit without telling me you’ve never seen that infamous comedy bit.
Image
Image
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

Image
Image
Image
Caribbean Hen
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7180
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Location: Bermuda Triangle

Re: USAID

Post by Caribbean Hen »

kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:25 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:14 am

we shouldn't need Elon Musk to do it, but your government left us with no choice
My government? Are you not a U.S. citizen?

And we had no other options than Elon? Are you sure? What special knowledge of governance, government budget processes, and providing for the common good does he alone possess? And why does it have to be just one unelected, unvetted, and unsupervised person who can find efficiency ?
You love waste fraud and abuse therefore it’s your government in this context

Just say it… politicians and especially Dems were never going to pull the curtain back on any of this… never

So ask yourself again why you have Elon Musk now finally looking at what is really happening in the 4th Estate
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:37 am
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:25 am

My government? Are you not a U.S. citizen?

And we had no other options than Elon? Are you sure? What special knowledge of governance, government budget processes, and providing for the common good does he alone possess? And why does it have to be just one unelected, unvetted, and unsupervised person who can find efficiency ?
You love waste fraud and abuse therefore it’s your government in this context

Just say it… politicians and especially Dems were never going to pull the curtain back on any of this… never

So ask yourself again why you have Elon Musk now finally looking at what is really happening in the 4th Estate
You (assuming you’re a U.S. citizen) and I own all of the government regardless of who’s in power. We own both the bad and the good. “We the People”

The largest form of corruption in our system is campaign finance. It’s the key the unlocks the doors to all other corruption.

Waste, fraud, and abuse are frequently uncovered and it’s not just DEI and community/socially based programs. You see it in defense contracting, ag subsidies, public lands management….

We already had systems and people in place to address this systemic problem. If not enough is uncovered to your liking, then increase the budgets, staffing, and prosecutorial authority of various agencies that already exist.

Instead…Musk fired the IG’s within a week and killed the CFPB. That’s not how you go about eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. It’s quite the opposite.

You’ve been duped.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 35252
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: USAID

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:37 am

You love waste fraud and abuse therefore it’s your government in this context

Just say it… politicians and especially Dems were never going to pull the curtain back on any of this… never

So ask yourself again why you have Elon Musk now finally looking at what is really happening in the 4th Estate
You (assuming you’re a U.S. citizen) and I own all of the government regardless of who’s in power. We own both the bad and the good. “We the People”

The largest form of corruption in our system is campaign finance. It’s the key the unlocks the doors to all other corruption.

Waste, fraud, and abuse are frequently uncovered and it’s not just DEI and community/socially based programs. You see it in defense contracting, ag subsidies, public lands management….

We already had systems and people in place to address this systemic problem. If not enough is uncovered to your liking, then increase the budgets, staffing, and prosecutorial authority of various agencies that already exist.

Instead…Musk fired the IG’s within a week and killed the CFPB. That’s not how you go about eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. It’s quite the opposite.

You’ve been duped.
Lol how cute you believe that. We’ve been trying that method for decades with nothing but failure, and pouring more $$$ into a flawed method wasn’t going to fix that. If the foundation is fatally flawed then it doesn’t matter how much you spend & do to fix above that- you’re just pissing in the wind.
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

BDKJMU wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:32 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:56 am

You (assuming you’re a U.S. citizen) and I own all of the government regardless of who’s in power. We own both the bad and the good. “We the People”

The largest form of corruption in our system is campaign finance. It’s the key the unlocks the doors to all other corruption.

Waste, fraud, and abuse are frequently uncovered and it’s not just DEI and community/socially based programs. You see it in defense contracting, ag subsidies, public lands management….

We already had systems and people in place to address this systemic problem. If not enough is uncovered to your liking, then increase the budgets, staffing, and prosecutorial authority of various agencies that already exist.

Instead…Musk fired the IG’s within a week and killed the CFPB. That’s not how you go about eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. It’s quite the opposite.

You’ve been duped.
Lol how cute you believe that. We’ve been trying that method for decades with nothing but failure, and pouring more $$$ into a flawed method wasn’t going to fix that. If the foundation is fatally flawed then it doesn’t matter how much you spend & do to fix above that- you’re just pissing in the wind.
What actions were implemented to improve the system, who promoted them, and when were they tried. Be very specific.

Conversely what you have done? Again, be very specific.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 31483
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: USAID

Post by Gil Dobie »

kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:20 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:05 am


The title is misleading. Also women have benefitted from DEI. The post (not you Kalm), is trying to be racist and a USAID program is the topic of the news video, not the entire USAID. Hopefully the waste is removed and the good programs are moved to other agencies.

Millions of dollars going to officers and board members of large companies, many of them news agencies, needs to stop, and there is plenty of that in USAID.
Hmmm. I simply don’t see an attempt at being racist by omitting women in this one instance. I suppose you could make a point that racial oppression has been more prevalent than gender oppression.

I also have trouble finding great offense at diversity or equity or inclusion in general. We have a long rich history of providing less opportunity to certain groups. I’m ok with leveling the playing field a bit.

As a middle aged white male, I had it better than most from the start. To quote Louis CK, I’m not saying white is better…I’m saying being white is WAY better. :)
Racist trigger by saying Kansas farmers we ok with cutting USAID money that hurt the black and browns. Many liberals I know personally would rather throw money at black and brown versus sit down have lunch and get to know them and make new friends. They are above that association.

I've worked along side many blacks and browns and know which side ate lunch or associated with who at work and after work activities.
Image
Caribbean Hen
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7180
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Location: Bermuda Triangle

Re: USAID

Post by Caribbean Hen »

kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:37 am

You love waste fraud and abuse therefore it’s your government in this context

Just say it… politicians and especially Dems were never going to pull the curtain back on any of this… never

So ask yourself again why you have Elon Musk now finally looking at what is really happening in the 4th Estate
You (assuming you’re a U.S. citizen) and I own all of the government regardless of who’s in power. We own both the bad and the good. “We the People”

The largest form of corruption in our system is campaign finance. It’s the key the unlocks the doors to all other corruption.

Waste, fraud, and abuse are frequently uncovered and it’s not just DEI and community/socially based programs. You see it in defense contracting, ag subsidies, public lands management….

We already had systems and people in place to address this systemic problem. If not enough is uncovered to your liking, then increase the budgets, staffing, and prosecutorial authority of various agencies that already exist.

Instead…Musk fired the IG’s within a week and killed the CFPB. That’s not how you go about eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. It’s quite the opposite.

You’ve been duped.
the systems need to be torn down as they contributed to waste fraud and abuse and the enabled employees in the system should be fired and allowed to exit the building before it comes crashing down

your lame excuses are over

just wait until they get to Medicare fraud
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 67837
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: USAID

Post by kalm »

Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:49 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:56 am

You (assuming you’re a U.S. citizen) and I own all of the government regardless of who’s in power. We own both the bad and the good. “We the People”

The largest form of corruption in our system is campaign finance. It’s the key the unlocks the doors to all other corruption.

Waste, fraud, and abuse are frequently uncovered and it’s not just DEI and community/socially based programs. You see it in defense contracting, ag subsidies, public lands management….

We already had systems and people in place to address this systemic problem. If not enough is uncovered to your liking, then increase the budgets, staffing, and prosecutorial authority of various agencies that already exist.

Instead…Musk fired the IG’s within a week and killed the CFPB. That’s not how you go about eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. It’s quite the opposite.

You’ve been duped.
the systems need to be torn down as they contributed to waste fraud and abuse and the enabled employees in the system should be fired and allowed to exit the building before it comes crashing down

your lame excuses are over

just wait until they get to Medicare fraud
Give us an example of how previous governmental oversight employees were contributing. Not anecdotes and rumors but actual independently verified instances.

You won’t, because you can’t.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 35252
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: USAID

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:12 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:32 pm
Lol how cute you believe that. We’ve been trying that method for decades with nothing but failure, and pouring more $$$ into a flawed method wasn’t going to fix that. If the foundation is fatally flawed then it doesn’t matter how much you spend & do to fix above that- you’re just pissing in the wind.
What actions were implemented to improve the system, who promoted them, and when were they tried. Be very specific.

Conversely what you have done? Again, be very specific.
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:56 am We already had systems and people in place to address this systemic problem.
You 1st since you 1st claimed it.
Last edited by BDKJMU on Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
JMU Football:
4 Years FBS: 40-11 (.784). Highest winning percentage & least losses of all of G5 2022-2025.
Sun Belt East Champions: 2022, 2023, 2025
Sun Belt Champions: 2025
Top 25 ranked: 2022, 2023, 2025
CFP: 2025
Caribbean Hen
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7180
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Location: Bermuda Triangle

Re: USAID

Post by Caribbean Hen »

kalm wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:02 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:49 pm

the systems need to be torn down as they contributed to waste fraud and abuse and the enabled employees in the system should be fired and allowed to exit the building before it comes crashing down

your lame excuses are over

just wait until they get to Medicare fraud
Give us an example of how previous governmental oversight employees were contributing. Not anecdotes and rumors but actual independently verified instances.

You won’t, because you can’t.
Which is exactly why we need Musk to dig it up
Caribbean Hen
Level4
Level4
Posts: 7180
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Location: Bermuda Triangle

Re: USAID

Post by Caribbean Hen »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-m ... es-100-159

according to Social Security, the USA has millions of centurions

Kalm is waiting for Maxine to fix it
Post Reply