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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:19 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:17 am Cold late Russian night not so long ago he said come on home son he said with a smile

Russia releases American teacher who was jailed for 3 years for having medical MJ

Try try try to understand….

Thank you Donald Trump
That’s a good thing. :thumb:
Yes it is

But finish out the song…
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:19 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:19 am

That’s a good thing. :thumb:
Yes it is

But finish out the song…
Trump’s a magic man?

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Put in other terms…Let’s eat grandma.

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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:38 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:19 pm

Yes it is

But finish out the song…
Trump’s a magic man?

:lol:
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ABA condemns remarks questioning legitimacy of courts and judicial revie
What is never acceptable is what was said by representatives of this administration, including the misleading assertion that judges cannot control the executive’s legitimate power and calls for impeachment of a judge who did not rule in the administration’s favor. It is also not acceptable to attack the judge making the ruling or try to interfere with the independence of the court.

These statements attack the legitimacy of judicial oversight just because a court’s ruling is not what the administration wants in a particular case. It is a fundamental cornerstone of our democracy that the courts are the protectors of the citizenry from government overreach. All lawyers know that judges have the authority to determine whether the administration’s actions are lawful and a legitimate exercise of executive branch authority. It is one of the oldest and most revered precedent in United States legal history — Marbury v. Madison. This is a key principle that is taught in the first year of law school.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:32 pm ABA condemns remarks questioning legitimacy of courts and judicial revie
What is never acceptable is what was said by representatives of this administration, including the misleading assertion that judges cannot control the executive’s legitimate power and calls for impeachment of a judge who did not rule in the administration’s favor. It is also not acceptable to attack the judge making the ruling or try to interfere with the independence of the court.

These statements attack the legitimacy of judicial oversight just because a court’s ruling is not what the administration wants in a particular case. It is a fundamental cornerstone of our democracy that the courts are the protectors of the citizenry from government overreach. All lawyers know that judges have the authority to determine whether the administration’s actions are lawful and a legitimate exercise of executive branch authority. It is one of the oldest and most revered precedent in United States legal history — Marbury v. Madison. This is a key principle that is taught in the first year of law school.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:57 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:54 pm
Apples to oranges. Every company’s #1 goal should be being profitable. If you aren’t, you’re out of business. Then everyone loses out: your employees, customers, shareholders if public company. For employees its do a good job to get pay raises, promoted, and even keep your job. Poor job gets you fired. Sometimes even mediocrity. That magazine informed you how to produce or accomplish something.

Govt has no profit incentive. Fed govt need more $$ just print more from the magic money trees in DC. Govt doesn’t produce anything. Those news/political magazines don’t tell you how to produce anything. Poor and mediocre jobs don’t get you fired. If you have govt scientists and its a science journal, or govt engineers (NASA) and its an engineering journal, ok, maybe, but OTOH those GS 13-16 and SES level make enough $$ they could afford to pay for their own science or engineering journal(s)

As far as the news/political, plenty of free news on both sides. The taxpayers don’t need to be paying for ones that lean one way or the other, esp if they are mostly paying for ones that mostly lean one way.
Oversimplification of the value and use of information. Government might not have a profit motive but having the right information to get things done quickly and efficiently is good for the taxpayer. The comparison applies but your qult membership requires you to dispute anything contrary to qult doctrine whether it makes sense or not.
Lol well the taxpayers sure as hell aren’t getting that from the liberal bureaucracy paying Politico and other left leftist media to launder information.

And I don’t know what you mean by quilt membership.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:26 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:57 am
Oversimplification of the value and use of information. Government might not have a profit motive but having the right information to get things done quickly and efficiently is good for the taxpayer. The comparison applies but your qult membership requires you to dispute anything contrary to qult doctrine whether it makes sense or not.
Lol well the taxpayers sure as hell aren’t getting that from the liberal bureaucracy paying Politico and other left leftist media to launder information.

And I don’t know what you mean by quilt membership.
That's your opinion. Do you have proof that the subscriptions are providing ideologically laundered or biased information?

Not all bureaucrats are liberal and they are entitled to believe what they want. Their ideology should not be a reason for ridicule, cause for dismissal or censorship.

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:38 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:26 pm
Lol well the taxpayers sure as hell aren’t getting that from the liberal bureaucracy paying Politico and other left leftist media to launder information.

And I don’t know what you mean by quilt membership.
That's your opinion. Do you have proof that the subscriptions are providing ideologically laundered or biased information?

Not all bureaucrats are liberal and they are entitled to believe what they want. Their ideology should not be a reason for ridicule, cause for dismissal or censorship.

qult: great devotion to a person (trump), idea, object (red, trucker hats), movement (MAQA), or work.
And all of that is your opinion. Elections have consequences. When your side wins again in 2028, 2032, 2036, or later, they can get their taxpayer funded subscriptions to their leftist rags back. In the meantime, if they want them, they can pay for their own damn subscriptions.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:40 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:38 pm
That's your opinion. Do you have proof that the subscriptions are providing ideologically laundered or biased information?

Not all bureaucrats are liberal and they are entitled to believe what they want. Their ideology should not be a reason for ridicule, cause for dismissal or censorship.

qult: great devotion to a person (trump), idea, object (red, trucker hats), movement (MAQA), or work.
And all of that is your opinion. Elections have consequences. When your side wins again in 2028, 2032, 2036, or later, they can get their taxpayer funded subscriptions to their leftist rags back. In the meantime, if they want them, they can pay for their own damn subscriptions.
No, we should let this play out in the courts as our system as intended.

Your response leads me to believe that you don't have "proof that the subscriptions are providing ideologically laundered or biased information". You're just believing what trump/musk tell you and following the other lemmings (or should I say lemminqs to keep the MAQA q them going) over the cliff.

I can't prove it but a reasonable person would agree that "not all bureaucrats are liberal and they are entitled to believe what they want" is fact not opinion.

Having our government veer from right to left as different Presidential administrations fire and hire bureaucrats based on ideological loyalty would be foolish and wasteful, the opposite of government efficiency.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:48 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:40 pm
And all of that is your opinion. Elections have consequences. When your side wins again in 2028, 2032, 2036, or later, they can get their taxpayer funded subscriptions to their leftist rags back. In the meantime, if they want them, they can pay for their own damn subscriptions.
No, we should let this play out in the courts as our system as intended.

I can't prove it but a reasonable person would agree that "not all bureaucrats are liberal and they are entitled to believe what they want" is fact not opinion.

Having our government veer from right to left as different Presidential administrations fire and hire bureaucrats based on ideological loyalty would be foolish and wasteful, the opposite of government efficiency.
No 1 or 2 lib activist district judges can’t attempt a judicial coup by undermining the powers of the president.
but a reasonable person would agree that "not all bureaucrats are liberal and they are entitled to believe what they want" is fact not opinion.
I don’t disagree. I didn’t say all are, but I believe most are.

Well, we couldn’t be anymore inefficient with the current status quo.
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White House says judges balking at Trump's actions are provoking a 'constitutional crisis'
The White House said Wednesday that court rulings going against the Trump administration are coming from “judicial activists” on the bench whose decisions amount to a "constitutional crisis.”
I believe the appropriate logical fallacy designation for this is Scapegoating.

Scapegoating (also, Blamecasting): The ancient fallacy that whenever something goes wrong there's always someone other than oneself to blame. ... A particularly corrupt and cynical example of scapegoating is the fallacy of Blaming the Victim, in which one falsely casts the blame for one's own evil or questionable actions on those affected.
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BOOM!
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:01 pm BOOM!
Will they hold caroline leavitt, elon musk, etc. accountable if they push lies too? Or will they be hypocrites?

Boom!
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Ha those lib activist judges just got contradicted by this judge:
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Honestly, this shit has been going on since at least Reagan.
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Democratic Sen. John Fetterman: 'There Isn't A Constitutional Crisis'
The Pennsylvania Democrat called Musk’s actions shutting down agencies and putting thousands of workers on administrative leave without congressional approval “provocative” and said they are “certainly a concern.”

However, the senator rejected claims from others in his party about the country facing a constitutional crisis.

“There isn’t a constitutional crisis, and all of these things ― it’s just a lot of noise,” Fetterman said. “That’s why I’m only gonna swing on the strikes.”
As usual, Fetterman makes some good points.

Is it a constitutional crisis now? No. Does it have the potential to become a constitutional crisis? Yes. Should we be losing our minds? No. Is it fair to be concerned? Yes.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:11 pm Ha those lib activist judges just got contradicted by this judge:
Speaking of (McConnell has also allegedly given 700k to democrats).
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:25 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:11 pm Ha those lib activist judges just got contradicted by this judge:
Speaking of (McConnell has also allegedly given 700k to democrats).
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Prison time
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Bobcat wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:39 pmPrison time
That witch NY gov is horrible



The Justice Department announced Wednesday it was suing New York state over its policy of limiting cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, with Gov. Kathy Hochul, state AG Letitia James and DMV chief Mark Schroeder in AG Pam Bondi’s crosshairs.

“This is a new DOJ,” Bondi announced. “New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens. It stops. It stops today.”
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Good. Shouldn't be another dime of fed $$$ to house illegal immigrants (including so called asylum seekers and TPS)
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If we're impeaching activists posing as judges, when are aileen cannon, clarence thomas and samuel alito up?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:05 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:01 pm BOOM!
Will they hold caroline leavitt, elon musk, etc. accountable if they push lies too? Or will they be hypocrites?

Boom!
For a guy who didn't say shit about anything the last administration did, you're whining rings hollow.
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