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Talk about an about face with rfk jr.
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Claiming hypocrisy on the lefties, as you try and deflect by making it a racist call. Understanding what Putin did, does not make one a Putin lover. I don't see changes, maybe a few things you failed to notice when she was a Democrat. Peace appears to be on her mind.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:55 amFunny how criticism of non-white conks is always racist and never about shitty ideas. Conks go all 2nd coming of MLK when it’s a POC right winger who agrees with them.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:06 am
Maybe I don't believe the left leaning news media. She is still anti-war, which IMO, is the reason she didn't like Biden or Harris war monger policies.
Funny how the Dems said Conks we racist for not voting for a women of color with no experience, that are now attacking a woman of color claiming she has no experience. Hypocrisy at its finest.![]()
She’s anti-war except the war on terror where she’s a self proclaimed “hawk”. Maybe also except for her love of Russia and Bashir Assad.
She was in DNC leadership until she backed Sanders in 2016.
She spent a minute as culture war left, but has moved conservative since 2020.
She’s an opportunist like the rest of them or is at least wildly hypocritical.
So which parts of her changing ideology do you like?

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Most lefties are thrilled at idea the FBI getting a taste of their own medicine - especially since it was James Fucking Comey who gave us the convicted President-elect. Which makes going after the FBI seem a bit harsh from the biting-the-hand-that-fed-you angle but oh well
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You may want to view the debate where Gabbard put old Petey in his place about meeting with your friends and enemies to achieve peace. FDR meet with Stalin, JFK Khruschev, Pelosi also met with Assad, etc.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:55 amFunny how criticism of non-white conks is always racist and never about shitty ideas. Conks go all 2nd coming of MLK when it’s a POC right winger who agrees with them.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:06 am
Maybe I don't believe the left leaning news media. She is still anti-war, which IMO, is the reason she didn't like Biden or Harris war monger policies.
Funny how the Dems said Conks we racist for not voting for a women of color with no experience, that are now attacking a woman of color claiming she has no experience. Hypocrisy at its finest.![]()
She’s anti-war except the war on terror where she’s a self proclaimed “hawk”. Maybe also except for her love of Russia and Bashir Assad.
She was in DNC leadership until she backed Sanders in 2016.
She spent a minute as culture war left, but has moved conservative since 2020.
She’s an opportunist like the rest of them or is at least wildly hypocritical.
So which parts of her changing ideology do you like?


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1). She’s no FDR or JFK.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:18 amYou may want to view the debate where Gabbard put old Petey in his place about meeting with your friends and enemies to achieve peace. FDR meet with Stalin, JFK Khruschev, Pelosi also met with Assad, etc.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:55 am
Funny how criticism of non-white conks is always racist and never about shitty ideas. Conks go all 2nd coming of MLK when it’s a POC right winger who agrees with them.![]()
She’s anti-war except the war on terror where she’s a self proclaimed “hawk”. Maybe also except for her love of Russia and Bashir Assad.
She was in DNC leadership until she backed Sanders in 2016.
She spent a minute as culture war left, but has moved conservative since 2020.
She’s an opportunist like the rest of them or is at least wildly hypocritical.
So which parts of her changing ideology do you like?
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2). How old is the Pelosi pic and what were the circumstances?
Look…I liked her too initially. You’re avoiding her obvious turn or at least hypocrisy. Otherwise…why are you a Bernie loving socialist, Gil?!?
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She may end up better than FDR or JFK. Pelosi had the same agenda, peace.

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Peace without Ukrainian membership in NATO is temporary and will likely lead to millions more deaths.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:49 amClaiming hypocrisy on the lefties, as you try and deflect by making it a racist call. Understanding what Putin did, does not make one a Putin lover. I don't see changes, maybe a few things you failed to notice when she was a Democrat. Peace appears to be on her mind.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:55 am
Funny how criticism of non-white conks is always racist and never about shitty ideas. Conks go all 2nd coming of MLK when it’s a POC right winger who agrees with them.![]()
She’s anti-war except the war on terror where she’s a self proclaimed “hawk”. Maybe also except for her love of Russia and Bashir Assad.
She was in DNC leadership until she backed Sanders in 2016.
She spent a minute as culture war left, but has moved conservative since 2020.
She’s an opportunist like the rest of them or is at least wildly hypocritical.
So which parts of her changing ideology do you like?
putin and russia want to swallow Ukraine. They'll do it in one big bite or a bunch of tiny ones. Genocide of the Ukrainian people will follow.
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And Ukranian membership in NATO increases the chance of WWIII.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:21 pmPeace without Ukrainian membership in NATO is temporary and will likely lead to millions more deaths.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:49 am
Claiming hypocrisy on the lefties, as you try and deflect by making it a racist call. Understanding what Putin did, does not make one a Putin lover. I don't see changes, maybe a few things you failed to notice when she was a Democrat. Peace appears to be on her mind.
putin and russia want to swallow Ukraine. They'll do it in one big bite or a bunch of tiny ones. Genocide of the Ukrainian people will follow.

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DOGE should knock it down to 18k pages.

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I'm sure a great negotiator who wrote "The Art of the Deal" can keep that from happening and protect the long-term sovereignty of Ukraine and the lives of it's people.
Otherwise I fear were looking at the genocide of the Ukrainian people and eventually WWIII.
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I doubt, and even if it was true, it’s not the responsibility of the US. And lol if you think NATO membership decreases chances of WWIII.
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And it’s not just us vs. Russia. Europe will increase military strength and equipment (I’m sure they already have). They’ll have no choice. That’s not all bad but
The previous two world wars started there. There’s a chance abandoning Europe/NATO will itself lead to escalation. If Putin has the stones to force it beyond UKR. Doubtful he does but still another thing to consider.
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I think a US withdrawal of support for Ukraine leads to:
1) russia taking over the country, either all at once or over time
b) the genocide of the Ukrainian people as putin won't tolerate anyone there who won't consider themselves russian
III) emboldening putin to invade other nations such as the Baltic states
D) an invasion of the Baltic States would require US intervention and is more likely to start WWIII than Ukraine's membership in NATO.
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Nice moving of the goalposts. 1st you said if don’t allow Ukraine into NATO increases chance of WWWIII. Now you say withdrawal of US support. What does draw us closer to WWIII is putting long range US missiles into Ukraine to be fired into Russia.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:28 pmI think a US withdrawal of support for Ukraine leads to:
1) russia taking over the country, either all at once or over time
b) the genocide of the Ukrainian people as putin won't tolerate anyone there who won't consider themselves russian
III) emboldening putin to invade other nations such as the Baltic states
D) an invasion of the Baltic States would require US intervention and is more likely to start WWIII than Ukraine's membership in NATO.
A continuation of US support at 60-100!billion a year leads to nothing but stalemate and mass casualties on both sides. And we can’t afford it. We have an unsustainable national debt. Maybe you’ve heard of it.
And yes, unfortunately we are tied by treaty to Baltic states thanks to the neocons.

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Didn't move the goalposts at all. Ukrainian membership in NATO helps protect Ukrainian sovereignity and lives and let's putin know we're serious.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:23 amNice moving of the goalposts. 1st you said if don’t allow Ukraine into NATO increases chance of WWWIII. Now you say withdrawal of US support. What does draw us closer to WWIII is putting long range US missiles into Ukraine to be fired into Russia.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:28 pm
I think a US withdrawal of support for Ukraine leads to:
1) russia taking over the country, either all at once or over time
b) the genocide of the Ukrainian people as putin won't tolerate anyone there who won't consider themselves russian
III) emboldening putin to invade other nations such as the Baltic states
D) an invasion of the Baltic States would require US intervention and is more likely to start WWIII than Ukraine's membership in NATO.
A continuation of US support at 60-100!billion a year leads to nothing but stalemate and mass casualties on both sides. And we can’t afford it. We have an unsustainable national debt. Maybe you’ve heard of it.
And yes, unfortunately we are tied by treaty to Baltic states thanks to the neocons.
I understand our debt problems. I also understand the importance of international law, peace and trade to our standard of living as well as our tax receipts. Letting the world fall apart won't be good for either.
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Trumps job is to protect the USA. Thats it. Keep our taxpayer money in the USA, the rest of the world can fuck off or take care of themselves like we do. That is why we hired him, USA first unlike the criminal neglect the Biden Harris administration soaked us with the last 4 years. Trump is inheriting a war he didnt start, a really shitty economy and a border that needs the military to police.
What is Trump gonna do after he cleans all that up in 2 or 3 months? Golf?
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This would save countless lives that might otherwise be aborted. The Pro Life movement should be begging for it.
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All of it!UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:21 pmPeace without Ukrainian membership in NATO is temporary and will likely lead to millions more deaths.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:49 am
Claiming hypocrisy on the lefties, as you try and deflect by making it a racist call. Understanding what Putin did, does not make one a Putin lover. I don't see changes, maybe a few things you failed to notice when she was a Democrat. Peace appears to be on her mind.
putin and russia want to swallow Ukraine. They'll do it in one big bite or a bunch of tiny ones. Genocide of the Ukrainian people will follow.
None of our business.
When they attack the USA wake me up and I will care.
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You want to offer NATO membership to Ukraine while they’re in the middle of a war with Russia with Russian troops on Ukrainian soil.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:43 amDidn't move the goalposts at all. Ukrainian membership in NATO helps protect Ukrainian sovereignity and lives and lets putin know we're serious.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:23 am
Nice moving of the goalposts. 1st you said if don’t allow Ukraine into NATO increases chance of WWWIII. Now you say withdrawal of US support. What does draw us closer to WWIII is putting long range US missiles into Ukraine to be fired into Russia.
A continuation of US support at 60-100!billion a year leads to nothing but stalemate and mass casualties on both sides. And we can’t afford it. We have an unsustainable national debt. Maybe you’ve heard of it.
And yes, unfortunately we are tied by treaty to Baltic states thanks to the neocons.
I understand our debt problems. I also understand the importance of international law, peace and trade to our standard of living as well as our tax receipts. Letting the world fall apart won't be good for either.

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I want Ukrainian membership in NATO to be part of any peace that is negotiated with russia. Peace without it is temporary and will lead to millions more lives lost and the eventual genocide of the Ukrainian people.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:26 pmYou want to offer NATO membership to Ukraine while they’re in the middle of a war with Russia with Russian troops on Ukrainian soil.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:43 am
Didn't move the goalposts at all. Ukrainian membership in NATO helps protect Ukrainian sovereignity and lives and lets putin know we're serious.
I understand our debt problems. I also understand the importance of international law, peace and trade to our standard of living as well as our tax receipts. Letting the world fall apart won't be good for either.While don’t you just say you want the US in WWIII..
The guy who "wrote" The Art of the Deal should be able to negotiate something like that in his sleep.
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I don’t. Giving NATO membership to a country bordering Russia that Russia was just at war with will make a future WIII More likely and lead to tens of millions more lives lost. The The guy who wrote The Art of the Deal is smart enough not to do something so wreckless and stupid.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:59 pmI want Ukrainian membership in NATO to be part of any peace that is negotiated with russia. Peace without it is temporary and will lead to millions more lives lost and the eventual genocide of the Ukrainian people.
The guy who "wrote" The Art of the Deal should be able to negotiate something like that in his sleep.

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A future is only more likely if he isn't a good enough negotiator to pull it off. He's always telling people how great he is. It's time to put up or shut up and save millions of Ukrainian lives.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:07 pmI don’t. Giving NATO membership to a country bordering Russia that Russia was just at war with will make a future WIII More likely and lead to tens of millions more lives lost. The The guy who wrote The Art of the Deal is smart enough not to do something so wreckless and stupid.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:59 pm
I want Ukrainian membership in NATO to be part of any peace that is negotiated with russia. Peace without it is temporary and will lead to millions more lives lost and the eventual genocide of the Ukrainian people.
The guy who "wrote" The Art of the Deal should be able to negotiate something like that in his sleep.![]()
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Wrong. Not the US’s job to save millions of Ukrainians lives anymore than it is the US’s job to save mass numbers of lives in any other country.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:19 pmA future is only more likely if he isn't a good enough negotiator to pull it off. He's always telling people how great he is. It's time to put up or shut up and save millions of Ukrainian lives.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:07 pm
I don’t. Giving NATO membership to a country bordering Russia that Russia was just at war with will make a future WIII More likely and lead to tens of millions more lives lost. The The guy who wrote The Art of the Deal is smart enough not to do something so wreckless and stupid.![]()

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Dr. Oz to oversee Medicare and Linda McMahon to lead Education.
I could see her as SBA Administrator again given her experience in the business world. But how in the heck is someone with a mere B.A. supposed to oversee Education? Particularly when Musk and Friend plan to remove it?
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