When does Biden drop out of the race?

[Caribbean Hen]

Done.

Obviously the plan was always to hand the mattress over to cramerla, it was just a matter of how and when

[BDKJMU]

Pelosi privately told Biden polls show he cannot win and will take down the House..
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics ... index.html

Biden’s response:

[Bobcat]

Biden is such a leader

[BDKJMU]

Now apparently Obama saying privately Biden must go..

[BDKJMU]

An open convention. Lol that will be a shitshow. Shades of 1968 Chicago..

[UNI88]

An open convention. Lol that will be a shitshow. Shades of 1968 Chicago..

Sh!tshow and what happens in states where the candidate must be known before the convention? They already have 1 hand tied behind their back. Writing off those states would just be tying the other one behind their back.

[kalm]

An open convention. Lol that will be a shitshow. Shades of 1968 Chicago..

Sh!tshow and what happens in states where the candidate must be known before the convention? They already have 1 hand tied behind their back. Writing off those states would just be tying the other one behind their back.

The states issue is resolved. Jaimie Harrison and the DNC are lying about it.

[GannonFan]

Sh!tshow and what happens in states where the candidate must be known before the convention? They already have 1 hand tied behind their back. Writing off those states would just be tying the other one behind their back.

The states issue is resolved. Jaimie Harrison and the DNC are lying about it.

Agreed. The situation with Ohio was already resolved, that state's legislature ended up passing the extension. Not sure what other states are in play like Ohio was but I don't think any battleground states are. Interesting that there's a lot of buzz that they aren't just going to hand it to Kamala to run with. Obviously she wasn't a popular candidate in the 2020 nominating race, so there's plenty of folks in the party who don't have her at the top of their list. Could be a crap show if they don't handle this well.

[BDKJMU]

With Harris conks hate her. Indies don’t like her. Not even donks like her. Remember she was polling at 1% in the donk primaries in 2020 before she dropped out right before Iowa. What donk (looking at govs) with future political ambitions (Whitmer, Newsom, Pritzer, Shapiro, Beshear, et al) would want to sign on as Harris’s VP? Would be like boarding the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. They would have to be out of their minds. Better to either:
-run at the top of the ticket against Harris in a chaotic brokered convention.
-sit this shitshow out and run in 2028 when both sides will be running clean slates.

[GannonFan]

With Harris conks hate her. Indies don’t like her. Not even donks like her. Remember she was polling at 1% in the donk primaries in 2020 before she dropped out right before Iowa. What donk (looking at govs) with future political ambitions (Whitmer, Newsom, Pritzer, Shapiro, Beshear, et al) would want to sign on as Harris’s VP? Would be like boarding the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. They would have to be out of their minds. Better to either:
-run at the top of the ticket against Harris in a chaotic brokered convention.
-sit this shitshow out and run in 2028 when both sides will be running clean slates.

I could see the older ones or the ones that are kinda long shots stepping in and trying to run rather than Harris - Newsom could do it, and maybe Pritzker, even Whitmer. I'm not sure their stocks will be all that much better in 2028 and they'll be termed out as governors by then. What do they have to lose to run this time, even with the chaotic circumstances. Heck, Pritzker has the homecourt advantage with the convention being in Illinois so who knows what benefit, if any, that would have. I don't see a lot of prime candidates agreeing to be a VP under Harris - no way Shapiro or Beshear do that if they think they're viable in 2028, and besides, they have jobs right now that probably better suit them for a run at the White House than VP would. Even AOC is sounding the alarm that if they drop Biden they probably also want to drop Harris. How does Harris react if she's bypassed?

[UNI88]

With Harris conks hate her. Indies don’t like her. Not even donks like her. Remember she was polling at 1% in the donk primaries in 2020 before she dropped out right before Iowa. What donk (looking at govs) with future political ambitions (Whitmer, Newsom, Pritzer, Shapiro, Beshear, et al) would want to sign on as Harris’s VP? Would be like boarding the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. They would have to be out of their minds. Better to either:
-run at the top of the ticket against Harris in a chaotic brokered convention.
-sit this shitshow out and run in 2028 when both sides will be running clean slates.

I could see the older ones or the ones that are kinda long shots stepping in and trying to run rather than Harris - Newsom could do it, and maybe Pritzker, even Whitmer. I'm not sure their stocks will be all that much better in 2028 and they'll be termed out as governors by then. What do they have to lose to run this time, even with the chaotic circumstances. Heck, Pritzker has the homecourt advantage with the convention being in Illinois so who knows what benefit, if any, that would have. I don't see a lot of prime candidates agreeing to be a VP under Harris - no way Shapiro or Beshear do that if they think they're viable in 2028, and besides, they have jobs right now that probably better suit them for a run at the White House than VP would. Even AOC is sounding the alarm that if they drop Biden they probably also want to drop Harris. How does Harris react if she's bypassed?

Senator Mark Kelly?

The Democrats Need a Hero. They Actually Already Have One

Kelly has represented swing state Arizona since December 2020 when he defeated incumbent Martha McSally. He won his last election in 2022, dispensing with Peter Thiel protege Blake Masters. A proud centrist, Kelly is bipartisan, especially when it comes to border policy.
...
Kelly and Harris also appear to have a warm relationship. In May 2023, Harris posted, “Senator Mark Kelly has been a fearless leader who has served this nation in the halls of the Senate and from thousands of miles above Earth. Today, I am congratulating my friend Senator Kelly on his well-earned induction into the Astronaut Hall of Fame.”
...
In the past week, Kelly’s name has started to be discussed in this context. A recent Politico poll showed Kelly as one of four Democrats who are outpolling Biden by five points in key battleground states.

A patriot and devoted husband, Kelly would appeal to men and women.

[kalm]

I could see the older ones or the ones that are kinda long shots stepping in and trying to run rather than Harris - Newsom could do it, and maybe Pritzker, even Whitmer. I'm not sure their stocks will be all that much better in 2028 and they'll be termed out as governors by then. What do they have to lose to run this time, even with the chaotic circumstances. Heck, Pritzker has the homecourt advantage with the convention being in Illinois so who knows what benefit, if any, that would have. I don't see a lot of prime candidates agreeing to be a VP under Harris - no way Shapiro or Beshear do that if they think they're viable in 2028, and besides, they have jobs right now that probably better suit them for a run at the White House than VP would. Even AOC is sounding the alarm that if they drop Biden they probably also want to drop Harris. How does Harris react if she's bypassed?

Senator Mark Kelly?

The Democrats Need a Hero. They Actually Already Have One

Kelly has represented swing state Arizona since December 2020 when he defeated incumbent Martha McSally. He won his last election in 2022, dispensing with Peter Thiel protege Blake Masters. A proud centrist, Kelly is bipartisan, especially when it comes to border policy.
...
Kelly and Harris also appear to have a warm relationship. In May 2023, Harris posted, “Senator Mark Kelly has been a fearless leader who has served this nation in the halls of the Senate and from thousands of miles above Earth. Today, I am congratulating my friend Senator Kelly on his well-earned induction into the Astronaut Hall of Fame.”
...
In the past week, Kelly’s name has started to be discussed in this context. A recent Politico poll showed Kelly as one of four Democrats who are outpolling Biden by five points in key battleground states.

A patriot and devoted husband, Kelly would appeal to men and women.

Young progressives would not care for this pick but it would be strong with indies, never-Trumpers, and liberals.

[GannonFan]

Senator Mark Kelly?

The Democrats Need a Hero. They Actually Already Have One

Young progressives would not care for this pick but it would be strong with indies, never-Trumpers, and liberals.

It wouldn't be a bad pick, but yes, like you said, the progressives will not care for it. Would be helpful in Arizona, so there's something to be said for that. And I don't see him having aspirations for high office off in the distant future so he's certainly a fill in for now kind of candidate.

[Caribbean Hen]

“Now Biden seems poised to wake up with a bloody equine head in his bed, and the Democrats have no shortage of horses to choose from. “

Joey Rotten going down ugly, to dumb to get it

[BDKJMU]

With Harris conks hate her. Indies don’t like her. Not even donks like her. Remember she was polling at 1% in the donk primaries in 2020 before she dropped out right before Iowa. What donk (looking at govs) with future political ambitions (Whitmer, Newsom, Pritzer, Shapiro, Beshear, et al) would want to sign on as Harris’s VP? Would be like boarding the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. They would have to be out of their minds. Better to either:
-run at the top of the ticket against Harris in a chaotic brokered convention.
-sit this shitshow out and run in 2028 when both sides will be running clean slates.

I could see the older ones or the ones that are kinda long shots stepping in and trying to run rather than Harris - Newsom could do it, and maybe Pritzker, even Whitmer. I'm not sure their stocks will be all that much better in 2028 and they'll be termed out as governors by then. What do they have to lose to run this time, even with the chaotic circumstances. Heck, Pritzker has the homecourt advantage with the convention being in Illinois so who knows what benefit, if any, that would have. I don't see a lot of prime candidates agreeing to be a VP under Harris - no way Shapiro or Beshear do that if they think they're viable in 2028, and besides, they have jobs right now that probably better suit them for a run at the White House than VP would. Even AOC is sounding the alarm that if they drop Biden they probably also want to drop Harris. How does Harris react if she's bypassed?

[BDKJMU]

[Caribbean Hen]

GodJilla - Joe, Barry called … it’s time to drop out of the race ….

Joe Bozo - am I at Daytona Beach?

GodJilla - No Joe, we’re at the Rehoboth Beach house … pull yourself together or am going to take you down the basement and hook you up to the shocker again …

[kalm]

Democracy is when you have an actual months long primary with debates and all states participating to evaluate all of the candidates rather than hiding the anointed one’s frailty.

[UNI88]

Democracy is when you have an actual months long primary with debates and all the candidates and states participating to evaluate all of the candidates rather than hiding the anointed one’s frailty.

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[UNI88]

There’s a dichotomy in the MAQA yahoo narrative here. Is biden too feeble to be President (in which case it’s in the nation’s best interest for him to step aside) or isn’t he (ie he’s fit enough to run and serve if elected)?

The trump campaign wants to have it both ways.


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[kalm]

Democracy is when you have an actual months long primary with debates and all the candidates and states participating to evaluate all of the candidates rather than hiding the anointed one’s frailty.

FYP


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I’ll allow it.

[houndawg]

Question for the violence peddlers.

What are the democrats gonna do about Biden when he drops out? Harris will pick Josh Shapiro as VP but Biden is locked on the ballot in Nevada, Wisconsin and soon to be Georgia. Do they really think that hotdog wrangler can win without those states or are they happy to see her lose so she goes away?

You don't know what you're talking about, Bobscat. The donks haven't nominated anybody yet.

What a dumb squat

[houndawg]

GodJilla - Joe, Barry called … it’s time to drop out of the race ….

Joe Bozo - am I at Daytona Beach?

GodJilla - No Joe, we’re at the Rehoboth Beach house … pull yourself together or am going to take you down the basement and hook you up to the shocker again …

Good point - the last thing we need are nominees long past their shelf life.

I think thats going to be an issue in this campaign. As it should be.

[kalm]

GodJilla - Joe, Barry called … it’s time to drop out of the race ….

Joe Bozo - am I at Daytona Beach?

GodJilla - No Joe, we’re at the Rehoboth Beach house … pull yourself together or am going to take you down the basement and hook you up to the shocker again …

Good point - the last thing we need are nominees long past their shelf life.

I think thats going to be an issue in this campaign. As it should be.

Very true. Along with cognitive issues, corruption, nepotism, and criminal past. Now that Dark Brandon is out of the race I’m quite sure CH will be considering the Dem nominee.

[houndawg]

Good point - the last thing we need are nominees long past their shelf life.

I think thats going to be an issue in this campaign. As it should be.

Very true. Along with cognitive issues, corruption, nepotism, and criminal past. Now that Dark Brandon is out of the race I’m quite sure CH will be considering the Dem nominee.

Who's going to vote for a bat shit 80 year-old drooling in his porridge and ejaculating random phrases into a microphone? The Grandpa Simpson memes are writing themselves...