Whichever talking head it was that said Trump's problem is that his base is also his ceiling gets closer to being correct as this drags out. And the donks want him to be the nominee and face of the Party he owns anyway.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:59 amIMO the avg voter thinks that January 6 was a riot and not a legitimate protest.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:24 am ‘Conspiracy to defraud the US’- The avg voter is going to be like ‘What is that? Defraud the US of what? What is the finacial crime?
‘Obstruct an Official Proceeding’ listed twice. The avg voter is going to look at that like 2 counts of interrupting a meeting. That sounds trivial.
‘Conspiracy Against Rights’ The avg voter is going to be like Whose rights?
These charges aren’t like ones everyone has heard of - murder, rape, kidnapping, burglary, robbery, assault, drug trafficking, obstruction, tax evasion, fraud, embezzlement, etc. These are obscure charges that 99% of the public has never heard of, basically only people imvolved in the fed judiciary have heard of, and sound like a desperate reach by by the left to ‘Get Trump’ through process crimes.
Questions:
- Does the avg voter think trump has some responsibility for that riot?
- Will trump be able to delay the legal proceedings long enough to keep them from having an impact on his candidacy?
- If not, will the information conveyed to the public hurt trump or make the avg voter think he wasn't responsible for inciting the mob?
Is that a picture of trump after he was notified of the indictment?
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Smith is a corrupt, political hack. The timeline proves it. 3 times is a pattern.

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Yes! It’s all just a big conspiracy!!! Smith obviously should have waited for the appropriate time to bring justice.
Wait for the Georgia indictment to fall right after Hunter’s next debacle.
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So we have a corrupt political hack going after a corrupt hack. Let the games begin!
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Sure does sound like Team Trump had a ton of groomers on its roster.
Projection much?
Projection much?
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Wait until I tell you about Fabian Marta, who is credited in the Sound of Freedom movie. He claims it was he that rescued the movie after Disney tried to ruin it.
He ran "sugar baby/sugar daddy" parties in STL. He is now under arrest for child kidnapping.
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Doesn't matter what the average person thinks they are. The DOJ selected charges they can easily prove to just 12 people. Those people will have them explained to them in great detail. Now is a good time to remind everyone that the DOJ has a 99.6% conviction rate.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:24 am ‘Conspiracy to defraud the US’- The avg voter is going to be like ‘What is that? Defraud the US of what? What is the finacial crime?
‘Obstruct an Official Proceeding’ listed twice. The avg voter is going to look at that like 2 counts of interrupting a meeting. That sounds trivial.
‘Conspiracy Against Rights’ The avg voter is going to be like Whose rights?
These charges aren’t like ones everyone has heard of - murder, rape, kidnapping, burglary, robbery, assault, drug trafficking, obstruction, tax evasion, fraud, embezzlement, etc. These are obscure charges that 99% of the public has never heard of, basically only people imvolved in the fed judiciary have heard of, and sound like a desperate reach by by the left to ‘Get Trump’ through process crimes.
DC has a rocket docket system so the trail and appeals will move relieving quickly through the system. TFG can't employee his usual tactic of delay in this case.
Also, if you don't like these charges, just wait. There are going to be plenty more brought forward.
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I just saw that too. Imagine those parties even if everyone was over 18. What a bunch of creepers.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:30 amWait until I tell you about Fabian Marta, who is credited in the Sound of Freedom movie. He claims it was he that rescued the movie after Disney tried to ruin it.
He ran "sugar baby/sugar daddy" parties in STL. He is now under arrest for child kidnapping.
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And I have MAGA friends, decent people who should know otherwise, going to see the movie, and eating it up.
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All of this. I’m guessing there are some very nervous peeps out there including congress people.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:36 amDoesn't matter what the average person thinks they are. The DOJ selected charges they can easily prove to just 12 people. Those people will have them explained to them in great detail. Now is a good time to remind everyone that the DOJ has a 99.6% conviction rate.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:24 am ‘Conspiracy to defraud the US’- The avg voter is going to be like ‘What is that? Defraud the US of what? What is the finacial crime?
‘Obstruct an Official Proceeding’ listed twice. The avg voter is going to look at that like 2 counts of interrupting a meeting. That sounds trivial.
‘Conspiracy Against Rights’ The avg voter is going to be like Whose rights?
These charges aren’t like ones everyone has heard of - murder, rape, kidnapping, burglary, robbery, assault, drug trafficking, obstruction, tax evasion, fraud, embezzlement, etc. These are obscure charges that 99% of the public has never heard of, basically only people imvolved in the fed judiciary have heard of, and sound like a desperate reach by by the left to ‘Get Trump’ through process crimes.
DC has a rocket docket system so the trail and appeals will move relieving quickly through the system. TFG can't employee his usual tactic of delay in this case.
Also, if you don't like these charges, just wait. There are going to be plenty more brought forward.
I also wouldn’t be shocked to see superseding indictments.
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kalm wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:03 amAll of this. I’m guessing there are some very nervous peeps out there including congress people.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:36 am
Doesn't matter what the average person thinks they are. The DOJ selected charges they can easily prove to just 12 people. Those people will have them explained to them in great detail. Now is a good time to remind everyone that the DOJ has a 99.6% conviction rate.
DC has a rocket docket system so the trail and appeals will move relieving quickly through the system. TFG can't employee his usual tactic of delay in this case.
Also, if you don't like these charges, just wait. There are going to be plenty more brought forward.
I also wouldn’t be shocked to see superseding indictments.
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The heck it doesn’t. It actually matters more what the voters think than what 12 jurors (from the most liberal jury pool in the country btw) think. This is a 100% political persecution, and only thing that ultimately matters is the election:bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:36 amDoesn't matter what the average person thinks they are. The DOJ selected charges they can easily prove to just 12 people. Those people will have them explained to them in great detail. Now is a good time to remind everyone that the DOJ has a 99.6% conviction rate.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:24 am ‘Conspiracy to defraud the US’- The avg voter is going to be like ‘What is that? Defraud the US of what? What is the finacial crime?
‘Obstruct an Official Proceeding’ listed twice. The avg voter is going to look at that like 2 counts of interrupting a meeting. That sounds trivial.
‘Conspiracy Against Rights’ The avg voter is going to be like Whose rights?
These charges aren’t like ones everyone has heard of - murder, rape, kidnapping, burglary, robbery, assault, drug trafficking, obstruction, tax evasion, fraud, embezzlement, etc. These are obscure charges that 99% of the public has never heard of, basically only people imvolved in the fed judiciary have heard of, and sound like a desperate reach by by the left to ‘Get Trump’ through process crimes.
DC has a rocket docket system so the trail and appeals will move relieving quickly through the system. TFG can't employee his usual tactic of delay in this case.
Also, if you don't like these charges, just wait. There are going to be plenty more brought forward.
-Biden reelected or another donk elected- there are far bigger things for me to worry about thatn what happems to Trump.
-Trump or another conk elected. Trump is either pardoned (possibly pardons himself), or the charges are simply dropped by a conk AG. At that point I could care less what sham, political charges Trump is charged and or convicted of, as long as a conk wins 2024..
To your other point, sure doesn’t sound like a ‘rocket docket’ Bobby.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump ... be%20filed.The latest indictment against former President Donald Trump joins a major backlog of cases.
Trump’s case is one of more than 6,000 pending criminal cases in the D.C. federal district court…
…D.C.’s federal courthouse reports the hundreds of cases related to the Capitol riot are taking a toll. It reports the court is taking five months longer to handle case than before Jan. 6 – a 36% increase in time. Prosecutors say there could be hundreds more Jan. 6 cases yet to be filed...
‘Rocket docket’ my arse..

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Depends on the other conk thats elected if it isn't Trump. De Santis has been exposed for the poser he is, so it will be a piranha feed frenzy among the little fishes. Christie and Hutchinson would let the thing run its course, Ramaswamy and Niki whats-her-name have both pledged to pardon him, Scott would most likely pardon him, the other non-entities in the field would probably pardon him too. The donks need Trump to be the nominee if they want to keep the White House since thats the only way the election doesn't become a referendum on Biden - all campaign long there will be a steady drip, drip, drip of information filling in the picture of what a truly disgusting excuse for a human being is the Donald. Any country that would elect him twice is already beyond salvageBDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:44 pmThe heck it doesn’t. It actually matters more what the voters think than what 12 jurors (from the most liberal jury pool in the country btw) think. This is a 100% political persecution, and only thing that ultimately matters is the election:bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:36 am
Doesn't matter what the average person thinks they are. The DOJ selected charges they can easily prove to just 12 people. Those people will have them explained to them in great detail. Now is a good time to remind everyone that the DOJ has a 99.6% conviction rate.
DC has a rocket docket system so the trail and appeals will move relieving quickly through the system. TFG can't employee his usual tactic of delay in this case.
Also, if you don't like these charges, just wait. There are going to be plenty more brought forward.
-Biden reelected or another donk elected- there are far bigger things for me to worry about thatn what happems to Trump.
-Trump or another conk elected. Trump is either pardoned (possibly pardons himself), or the charges are simply dropped by a conk AG. At that point I could care less what sham, political charges Trump is charged and or convicted of, as long as a conk wins 2024..
To your other point, sure doesn’t sound like a ‘rocket docket’ Bobby.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump ... be%20filed.The latest indictment against former President Donald Trump joins a major backlog of cases.
Trump’s case is one of more than 6,000 pending criminal cases in the D.C. federal district court…
…D.C.’s federal courthouse reports the hundreds of cases related to the Capitol riot are taking a toll. It reports the court is taking five months longer to handle case than before Jan. 6 – a 36% increase in time. Prosecutors say there could be hundreds more Jan. 6 cases yet to be filed...
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Andy McCabe lied four times with three being under oath to FBI agents...then got a book deal.
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That must be why the justice department settled his suit alleging illegal firing by the Trump admin.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:20 pm Andy McCabe lied four times with three being under oath to FBI agents...then got a book deal.
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You should be more worried about: January 2021 - Trump leaves White House with classified documents
July 2021 - Saudis give Trump's son-in-law $2,000,000,000
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Yes those love letters between Jong Un and Trump were worth so much to the Saudis.
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I bet Trump's lawyers have him duct taped to a chair with a gag in his mouth
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Yes those love letters between Jong Un and Trump were worth so much to the Saudis.
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You've finally lost it. BDKRNBDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:44 pmThe heck it doesn’t. It actually matters more what the voters think than what 12 jurors (from the most liberal jury pool in the country btw) think. This is a 100% political persecution, and only thing that ultimately matters is the election:bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:36 am
Doesn't matter what the average person thinks they are. The DOJ selected charges they can easily prove to just 12 people. Those people will have them explained to them in great detail. Now is a good time to remind everyone that the DOJ has a 99.6% conviction rate.
DC has a rocket docket system so the trail and appeals will move relieving quickly through the system. TFG can't employee his usual tactic of delay in this case.
Also, if you don't like these charges, just wait. There are going to be plenty more brought forward.
-Biden reelected or another donk elected- there are far bigger things for me to worry about thatn what happems to Trump.
-Trump or another conk elected. Trump is either pardoned (possibly pardons himself), or the charges are simply dropped by a conk AG. At that point I could care less what sham, political charges Trump is charged and or convicted of, as long as a conk wins 2024..
To your other point, sure doesn’t sound like a ‘rocket docket’ Bobby.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump ... be%20filed.The latest indictment against former President Donald Trump joins a major backlog of cases.
Trump’s case is one of more than 6,000 pending criminal cases in the D.C. federal district court…
…D.C.’s federal courthouse reports the hundreds of cases related to the Capitol riot are taking a toll. It reports the court is taking five months longer to handle case than before Jan. 6 – a 36% increase in time. Prosecutors say there could be hundreds more Jan. 6 cases yet to be filed...
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Yes. Remember when Trump paid hookers to piss on the bed Obama slept in...like that? More stuff like that?houndawg wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:04 pmSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:01 pm
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Yes those love letters between Jong Un and Trump were worth so much to the Saudis.its almost like there was more....
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I didn’t know trump had a golden shower fetish. Was that one of the things he paid Stormy to be quiet about?
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Well you know Stormy publicly admitted that she never had sex with Trump, but I'll bet she would make that up as well.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:43 amI didn’t know trump had a golden shower fetish. Was that one of the things he paid Stormy to be quiet about?SeattleGriz wrote:
Yes. Remember when Trump paid hookers to piss on the bed Obama slept in...like that? More stuff like that?
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Keith Davidson, a lawyer for Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, confirmed the statement was authentic but didn't offer any further details.
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So even the golden shower couldn’t overcome his ED? How many blue pills does he need?SeattleGriz wrote:Well you know Stormy publicly admitted that she never had sex with Trump, but I'll bet she would make that up as well.
Adult film star Stormy Daniels, in the midst of a publicity tour fueled by past allegations of a 2006 sexual relationship with a then-married Donald Trump, said in a statement on Tuesday the alleged affair never occurred.
Keith Davidson, a lawyer for Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, confirmed the statement was authentic but didn't offer any further details.
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