TSN Preseason Poll

[danefan]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Appalachian State Mountaineers (79) 0-0 3,853 5
2. Richmond Spiders (72) 0-0 3,792 1
3. Montana Grizzlies (2) 0-0 3,506 2
4. Northern Iowa Panthers (2) 0-0 3,408 4
5. Villanova Wildcats (2) 0-0 3,285 6
6. James Madison Dukes (1) 0-0 3,069 3
7. Southern Illinois Salukis 0-0 2,897 11
8. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-0 2,544 8
9. Weber State Wildcats (1) 0-0 2,525 7
10. Wofford Terriers 0-0 2,169 9
11. Elon Phoenix 0-0 2,162 17
12. Cal Poly Mustangs 0-0 1,780 10
13. Central Arkansas Bears 0-0 1,670 12
14. William & Mary Tribe 0-0 1,635 20
15. McNeese State Cowboys 0-0 1,453 21
16. South Carolina State Bulldogs (1) 0-0 1,379 13
17. Massachusetts Minutemen 0-0 1,055 NR
18. Eastern Washington Eagles 0-0 1,038 NR
19. Maine Black Bears 0-0 1,033 18
20. Texas State Bobcats 0-0 860 22
21. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 0-0 808 23
22. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-0 707 NR
23. Harvard Crimson 0-0 504 15
24. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 0-0 394 19
25. Grambling State Tigers 0-0 382 24
25. Holy Cross Crusaders 0-0 382 NR

Others receiving votes: Georgia Southern 335, Liberty 330, Colgate 319, North Dakota State 252, Montana State 217, Hofstra 206, Delaware 202, Florida A&M 194, Tennessee-Martin 192, Furman 171, Northern Arizona 169, Youngstown State 145, Eastern Illinois 93, Albany 64, UC Davis 63, Western Illinois 61, Penn 56, Coastal Carolina 52, Prairie View A&M 52, Samford 49, Tennessee State 47, Jackson State 46, Southern 39, Hampton 38, Bethune-Cookman 37, Brown 32, Northwestern State 30, San Diego 20, Lafayette 17, Delaware State 16, Jacksonville 16, Lehigh 16, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 15, Western Carolina 14, Charleston Southern 12, North Dakota 12, Fordham 10, Norfolk State 10, Stony Brook 10, The Citadel 10, Towson 10, Morgan State. 8, Monmouth 5, Yale 4, Alabama A&M 2, Illinois State 2, Missouri State 2, Murray State 2, Presbyterian 2, Gardner-Webb 1, Portland State 1, Robert Morris 1, Southeastern Louisiana 1

[danefan]

Not a bad poll actually.

UCA is too high probably, but everyone has overlooked how much they lost, IMO and the random 1st place votes for Weber and SC State are just dumb.

Other than that, TSN voters got their obligatory PL, Ivy and SWAC teams in regardless of actual on field results. But that's to be expected and at least they put them in the bottom.

[AZGrizFan]

11. Elon Phoenix 0-0 2,162 17 ---WOW....
12. Cal Poly Mustangs 0-0 1,780 10
13. Central Arkansas Bears 0-0 1,670 12
14. William & Mary Tribe 0-0 1,635 20
15. McNeese State Cowboys 0-0 1,453 21
16. South Carolina State Bulldogs (1) 0-0 1,379 13 --WTF???
17. Massachusetts Minutemen 0-0 1,055 NR
18. Eastern Washington Eagles 0-0 1,038 NR
19. Maine Black Bears 0-0 1,033 18
20. Texas State Bobcats 0-0 860 22
21. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 0-0 808 23
22. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-0 707 NR
23. Harvard Crimson 0-0 504 15
24. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 0-0 394 19
25. Grambling State Tigers 0-0 382 24
25. Holy Cross Crusaders 0-0 382 NR

Others receiving votes: Georgia Southern 335, Liberty 330, Colgate 319, North Dakota State 252, Montana State 217, Hofstra 206, Delaware 202, Florida A&M 194, Tennessee-Martin 192, Furman 171, Northern Arizona 169, Youngstown State 145, Eastern Illinois 93, Albany 64, UC Davis 63, Western Illinois 61, Penn 56, Coastal Carolina 52, Prairie View A&M 52, Samford 49, Tennessee State 47, Jackson State 46, Southern 39, Hampton 38, Bethune-Cookman 37, Brown 32, Northwestern State 30, San Diego 20, Lafayette 17, Delaware State 16, Jacksonville 16, Lehigh 16, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 15, Western Carolina 14, Charleston Southern 12, North Dakota 12, Fordham 10, Norfolk State 10, Stony Brook 10, The Citadel 10, Towson 10, Morgan State. 8, Monmouth 5, Yale 4, Alabama A&M 2, Illinois State 2, Missouri State 2, Murray State 2, Presbyterian 2, Gardner-Webb 1, Portland State 1, Robert Morris 1, Southeastern Louisiana 1

A number of things stand out, but not the least of which is Elon @ #11, a FIRST PLACE VOTE FOR South Carolina State and a vote at ALL for Portland State...

[danefan]

Yeah, on a second look, Elon is way too high.

[Wildcat Ryan]

Not a bad poll actually.

UCA is too high probably, but everyone has overlooked how much they lost, IMO and the random 1st place votes for Weber and SC State are just dumb.

Other than that, TSN voters got their obligatory PL, Ivy and SWAC teams in regardless of actual on field results. But that's to be expected and at least they put them in the bottom.

And why is that?

last season Weber beat Montana when they were 3rd in the nation, and won at Cal Poly when they were 3rd in the nation, its realistic, not dumb.

[danefan]

Not a bad poll actually.

UCA is too high probably, but everyone has overlooked how much they lost, IMO and the random 1st place votes for Weber and SC State are just dumb.

Other than that, TSN voters got their obligatory PL, Ivy and SWAC teams in regardless of actual on field results. But that's to be expected and at least they put them in the bottom.

And why is that?

last season Weber beat Montana when they were 3rd in the nation, and won at Cal Poly when they were 3rd in the nation, its realistic, not dumb.

Weber is a good team, but do you really think they are the #1 team in the nation?

Sorry man, I think its an unrealistic, and therefore dumb, vote.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I don't think that it is out of place for Weber for to have a first place vote either. Montana has two and it's a tossup as to who wins the conference and Weber proved they can play anybody well last year and return the mofority of the team so I don't see a problem there. The Elon placement seems a bit high to me as well, but the same argument I just made for Weber could likely be made for them.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

And why is that?

last season Weber beat Montana when they were 3rd in the nation, and won at Cal Poly when they were 3rd in the nation, its realistic, not dumb.

Weber is a good team, but do you really think they are the #1 team in the nation?

Sorry man, I think its an unrealistic, and therefore dumb, vote.

It depends on the voters philosophy I guess. I could see voting them the best team in the nation at this point based on what they are bringing back and a slight dose of homerism. If the voter voted based on who they think will win in late December based on what they know now then I could see that as well.

[Wildcat Ryan]

And why is that?

last season Weber beat Montana when they were 3rd in the nation, and won at Cal Poly when they were 3rd in the nation, its realistic, not dumb.

Weber is a good team, but do you really think they are the #1 team in the nation?

Sorry man, I think its an unrealistic, and therefore dumb, vote.

No I dont think Weber is the #1 team in the Nation....yet, they have to prove themselves, but they do have the potential to be a #1 ranked team.

thoeretically, if Weber were to come out of Laramie or Ft. Collins with a win, would you still think that #1 vote would be dumb?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I don't think that it is out of place for Weber for to have a first place vote either. Montana has two and it's a tossup as to who wins the conference and Weber proved they can play anybody well last year and return the mofority of the team so I don't see a problem there. The Elon placement seems a bit high to me as well, but the same argument I just made for Weber could likely be made for them.

I think the 1st place vote for Weber is a bit of a stretch. They're good, but not THAT good. If they hadn't lost to EWU at the end of the regular season last year, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But hey, what do I know. I don't even know what a mofority is.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I don't think that it is out of place for Weber for to have a first place vote either. Montana has two and it's a tossup as to who wins the conference and Weber proved they can play anybody well last year and return the mofority of the team so I don't see a problem there. The Elon placement seems a bit high to me as well, but the same argument I just made for Weber could likely be made for them.

I think the 1st place vote for Weber is a bit of a stretch. They're good, but not THAT good. If they hadn't lost to EWU at the end of the regular season last year, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But hey, what do I know. I don't even know what a mofority is.

It's a mother fucking majority brother. Get with it Eagle.

[dbackjon]

Not a bad poll. Elon looks out of place. Albany needs more votes

[danefan]

OK - dumb use of the word dumb for Weber's 1st place vote.

Voting for SCSU as a #1 = dumb.
Voting for Weber as a #1 = a stretch.

Better Big Sky guys?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

OK - dumb use of the word dumb for Weber's 1st place vote.

Voting for SCSU as a #1 = dumb.
Voting for Weber as a #1 = a stretch.

Better Big Sky guys?

Sure Dane but I think you need to see the offense in action. It's tough to judge even from video but they are probably the most well balanced and prolific offense in the FCS if they can build even a little bit on last years team. The word stretch is better but I would call it a slight stretch based on what I know right now. If there were a lot of first place votes for them then I would start to wonder a little bit more but I can see ONE guy thinking they may be the best out there right now. I am operating under the assumption that the voter is pretty familiar with Weber.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

OK - dumb use of the word dumb for Weber's 1st place vote.

Voting for SCSU as a #1 = dumb.
Voting for Weber as a #1 = a stretch.

Better Big Sky guys?

Yes, because I'm the one that said it was a stretch. Why'd you have to go and make it dumb?

[Wildcat Ryan]

OK - dumb use of the word dumb for Weber's 1st place vote.

Voting for SCSU as a #1 = dumb.
Voting for Weber as a #1 = a stretch.

Better Big Sky guys?

Ah yes Much better

[wideright82]

Not a bad poll. Elon looks out of place. Albany needs more votes

funny I was gonna say Albany needs less votes, but I think we know where my thinking is this year. CS.com's own Albany hater. We don't have one. So I will be playing the roll of NEC basher all year.





If we have a poll however I would never vote that way, like the Terror

[danefan]

Not a bad poll. Elon looks out of place. Albany needs more votes

funny I was gonna say Albany needs less votes, but I think we know where my thinking is this year. CS.com's own Albany hater. We don't have one. So I will be playing the roll of NEC basher all year.





If we have a poll however I would never vote that way, like the Terror

dickhead.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

They should have proofread that shirt one more time I think.

[wideright82]

funny I was gonna say Albany needs less votes, but I think we know where my thinking is this year. CS.com's own Albany hater. We don't have one. So I will be playing the roll of NEC basher all year.





If we have a poll however I would never vote that way, like the Terror

dickhead.

Someone has to keep your passion burning past the first post DF. You make too sound of an argument not to let the rest of it be heard. I usually end up agreeing with the Albany fans when their arguments are made, maybe its because so many of you guys are lawyers and post sound logical arguments.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

It's a mother fucking majority brother. Get with it Eagle.

Mofority (n): a gangbang involving someone's mother.

[danefan]

They should have proofread that shirt one more time I think.

I think its done on purpose. Well at the very least, the dumbass typo made me pick that picture over all the others.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

It's a mother fucking majority brother. Get with it Eagle.

Mofority (n): a gangbang involving someone's mother.

OOOH, I like that one too.

[ChetSteadman]

Voting SCSU #1 is absolutely insane. I'd like to see that ballot. Otherwise, it's not a terrible poll. Elon probably isn't out of place at 11, IMO, as they were decent last year and didn't lose much. They've begun to develop a run game, which has been lacking for the past few seasons. Hudgins and Riddle are a potent combo. Their schedule doesn't favor them, though, as they have 3 of the last 4 on the road (ASU at home - next to last game of the season). They get GSU at home, but travel to Furman and Wofford. Those three games will determine their season.

[CatMom]

Gee, couldn't they find a way to get the whole CAA in there? I mean, really, just 7?