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[kalm]

[UNI88]

Poor eating and exercise habits play a “large” role as well.

We’re comfortable telling wealthy people they should share their riches but not telling people they should eat healthy and be active.


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[Baldy]

Poor eating and exercise habits play a “large” role as well.

We’re comfortable telling wealthy people they should share their riches but not telling people they should eat healthy and be active.


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How dare you add context and destroy the left wing talking point...fuckin' Nazi.

[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

[kalm]

Poor eating and exercise habits play a “large” role as well.

We’re comfortable telling wealthy people they should share their riches but not telling people they should eat healthy and be active.


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Maybe we can support both a healthier lifestyle and create a better system or go back to the one that worked here for decades and continues to work in your beloved Scandinavia?

[UNI88]

Poor eating and exercise habits play a “large” role as well.

We’re comfortable telling wealthy people they should share their riches but not telling people they should eat healthy and be active.


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Maybe we can support both a healthier lifestyle and create a better system or go back to the one that worked here for decades and continues to work in your beloved Scandinavia?

Back to what system? Our economic and support system hasn’t changed except to become less racist. Do you want to go back to Jim Crow? Or are we talking about going back to when people took responsibility for their own lives and futures?


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[kalm]

Maybe we can support both a healthier lifestyle and create a better system or go back to the one that worked here for decades and continues to work in your beloved Scandinavia?

Back to what system? Our economic and support system hasn’t changed except to become less racist. Do you want to go back to Jim Crow? Or are we talking about going back to when people took responsibility for their own lives and futures?


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Back when (for starters) we had stricter banking regulations and higher taxes to pay for the greatest standard of living in the world.

[UNI88]

Back to what system? Our economic and support system hasn’t changed except to become less racist. Do you want to go back to Jim Crow? Or are we talking about going back to when people took responsibility for their own lives and futures?


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Back when (for starters) we had stricter banking regulations and higher taxes to pay for the greatest standard of living in the world.

Reagan’s deregulation juiced the economy, drove the technology revolution, raised the standard of living for millions and enabled a lot of middle class people to become millionaires. But yeah, let’s undo that because more poverty is preferable to a big income gap.


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[SeattleGriz]

Poor eating and exercise habits play a “large” role as well.

We’re comfortable telling wealthy people they should share their riches but not telling people they should eat healthy and be active.


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Maybe we can support both a healthier lifestyle and create a better system or go back to the one that worked here for decades and continues to work in your beloved Scandinavia?

I could be wrong here, but isn't fentanyl driving the reduction in life expectancy?

[kalm]

Back when (for starters) we had stricter banking regulations and higher taxes to pay for the greatest standard of living in the world.

Reagan’s deregulation juiced the economy, drove the technology revolution, raised the standard of living for millions and enabled a lot of middle class people to become millionaires. But yeah, let’s undo that because more poverty is preferable to a big income gap.


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At what expense and by what measurements? And it’s not as if seceding administrations didn’t adopt Reaganomics to significant degree. IE, zombie Reagan never really went away. Reaganomic policies raised middle class taxes 11 times, exploded the debt and consolidated power to the level of oligarchy we’re seeing now.

Reagan era anti-trust deregulation and Clinton era financial deregulation created the greatest concentration of market power since the Gilded Wage. (I thought you libertarian types were pro-completion?)

High standard of living that like Reagan’s revenue growth was placed on a credit card. It’s also led to hyperinflation in health care, insurance, education, housing, etc.

We’ve been through this before.

[UNI88]

Reagan’s deregulation juiced the economy, drove the technology revolution, raised the standard of living for millions and enabled a lot of middle class people to become millionaires. But yeah, let’s undo that because more poverty is preferable to a big income gap.


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At what expense and by what measurements? And it’s not as if seceding administrations didn’t adopt Reaganomics to significant degree. IE, zombie Reagan never really went away. Reaganomic policies raised middle class taxes 11 times, exploded the debt and consolidated power to the level of oligarchy we’re seeing now.

Reagan era anti-trust deregulation and Clinton era financial deregulation created the greatest concentration of market power since the Gilded Wage. (I thought you libertarian types were pro-completion?)

High standard of living that like Reagan’s revenue growth was placed on a credit card. It’s also led to hyperinflation in health care, insurance, education, housing, etc.

We’ve been through this before.

That’s a hodgepodge of arguments and you are oversimplifying the economics.

A lot of people did very well in their 401k’s and IRA’s but a number of morons in Congress want to penalize them and disincentivize the use of 401k’s and IRA’s. Those are the vehicles to use for retirement.


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[BDKJMU]

Reagan’s deregulation juiced the economy, drove the technology revolution, raised the standard of living for millions and enabled a lot of middle class people to become millionaires. But yeah, let’s undo that because more poverty is preferable to a big income gap.


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At what expense and by what measurements? And it’s not as if seceding administrations didn’t adopt Reaganomics to significant degree. IE, zombie Reagan never really went away. Reaganomic policies raised middle class taxes 11 times, exploded the debt and consolidated power to the level of oligarchy we’re seeing now.

Reagan era anti-trust deregulation and Clinton era financial deregulation created the greatest concentration of market power since the Gilded Wage. (I thought you libertarian types were pro-completion?)

High standard of living that like Reagan’s revenue growth was placed on a credit card. It’s also led to hyperinflation in health care, insurance, education, housing, etc.

We’ve been through this before.

Red herring the left has been using for 35 years. Reagan overall cut taxes on the middle class.

[HI54UNI]

At what expense and by what measurements? And it’s not as if seceding administrations didn’t adopt Reaganomics to significant degree. IE, zombie Reagan never really went away. Reaganomic policies raised middle class taxes 11 times, exploded the debt and consolidated power to the level of oligarchy we’re seeing now.

Reagan era anti-trust deregulation and Clinton era financial deregulation created the greatest concentration of market power since the Gilded Wage. (I thought you libertarian types were pro-completion?)

High standard of living that like Reagan’s revenue growth was placed on a credit card. It’s also led to hyperinflation in health care, insurance, education, housing, etc.

We’ve been through this before.

Red herring the left has been using for 35 years. Reagan overall cut taxes on the middle class.

And they conveniently forget that any legislation for tax cuts, tax increases, or spending increases were approved by the Democrat majority House of Representatives.

[kalm]

Red herring the left has been using for 35 years. Reagan overall cut taxes on the middle class.

And they conveniently forget that any legislation for tax cuts, tax increases, or spending increases were approved by the Democrat majority House of Representatives.

Truth. As I mentioned Neo-liberalism has been embraced many from the Clinton’s to Thomas Friedman and a bunch of those folks at Davos.

I prefer a stronger middle class, competition, and well regulated capitalism. But that’s just me.

[Winterborn]

And they conveniently forget that any legislation for tax cuts, tax increases, or spending increases were approved by the Democrat majority House of Representatives.

Truth. As I mentioned Neo-liberalism has been embraced many from the Clinton’s to Thomas Friedman and a bunch of those folks at Davos.

I prefer a stronger middle class, competition, and well regulated capitalism. But that’s just me.

Interesting how an individual defines the definition of one simple word can change another person from agreement to total disagreement.

Spoiler: show

definition of "well"

[kalm]

Truth. As I mentioned Neo-liberalism has been embraced many from the Clinton’s to Thomas Friedman and a bunch of those folks at Davos.

I prefer a stronger middle class, competition, and well regulated capitalism. But that’s just me.

Interesting how an individual defines the definition of one simple word can change another person from agreement to total disagreement.

Spoiler: show

definition of "well"

Indeed. You can have less but more effective regulation and vice versa.

“Well” in this instance benefits the middle class and competition.

[SeattleGriz]

[Winterborn]

And it provided a little kid in China a job.

[UNI88]

At what expense and by what measurements? And it’s not as if seceding administrations didn’t adopt Reaganomics to significant degree. IE, zombie Reagan never really went away. Reaganomic policies raised middle class taxes 11 times, exploded the debt and consolidated power to the level of oligarchy we’re seeing now.

Reagan era anti-trust deregulation and Clinton era financial deregulation created the greatest concentration of market power since the Gilded Wage. (I thought you libertarian types were pro-completion?)

High standard of living that like Reagan’s revenue growth was placed on a credit card. It’s also led to hyperinflation in health care, insurance, education, housing, etc.

We’ve been through this before.

Red herring the left has been using for 35 years. Reagan overall cut taxes on the middle class.

Yep, an intellectually dishonest argument by kalm.

Did Reagan really explode the national debt?


Looks to me like Dubya really go it going and then Obama, trump and Biden have taken it to another level of fiscal irresponsibility.

[kalm]

Red herring the left has been using for 35 years. Reagan overall cut taxes on the middle class.

Yep, an intellectually dishonest argument by kalm.

Did Reagan really explode the national debt?


Looks to me like Dubya really go it going and then Obama, trump and Biden have taken it to another level of fiscal irresponsibility.

1) economics is inherently dishonest. Hence “soft science”. How intellectually dishonest of you not to admit that.

2). The current 40 year increase in debt started with Reagan. As mentioned before this includes Democratic administrations who also embraced much of neo-liberalism.

3). This Twitter account will provide you with sone more graphs. Lol.

[UNI88]

Yep, an intellectually dishonest argument by kalm.

Did Reagan really explode the national debt?


Looks to me like Dubya really go it going and then Obama, trump and Biden have taken it to another level of fiscal irresponsibility.

1) economics is inherently dishonest. Hence “soft science”. How intellectually dishonest of you not to admit that.

2). The current 40 year increase in debt started with Reagan. As mentioned before this includes Democratic administrations who also embraced much of neo-liberalism.

3). This Twitter account will provide you with sone more graphs. Lol.

1) Economics is not inherently dishonest. The data tells a story. There are multiple variables and the story is up to interpretation. Saying that Reagan raised taxes on the middle class without qualifying that he also lowered taxes on the middle class is dishonest. When Reagan took office someone in the middle class was likely paying between 28 and 54+% in federal income taxes. When he left office they were paying between 15 and 28%. Income taxes on the middle class were close to cut in half during his presidency. Were there other changes that increased their taxes in other areas? Yes. Did they outweigh the overall reduction in their income taxes? On average, I doubt it.

2) Yes, it could be argued that the increase started with Reagan but it could also be argued that it started to inch up under Carter. More importantly Reagan isn't responsible for what happened after his presidency. The vast majority of the increase happened under Obama, trump and Biden. They and those Congresses are responsible for the budgets they passed and signed and their impact on the national debt.

3) I'm glad you've found a simple-minded playdate who also wants to blame all of America's woes on Reagan. You and he are entitled to your opinions but that doesn't make them accurate.

But yes, let's blame everything on Reagan and go back to a 70% income tax rate. I believe California has a max of of a 13.3% income tax rate. Add in local taxes and a high earner in California could be paying 85+% of their income to the government. That's not a disincentive to taking risks, building wealth and innovating at all.

[HI54UNI]

Kalm reminds me of Professor Allen Hays at UNI. Everything was Reagan's fault. Had a guy in the class that was great at proclaiming Reagan to be the most awesomest president ever. If he would get that in we were done with lecture for the day because Hays would go on a rant about how bad Reagan was.

[kalm]

1) economics is inherently dishonest. Hence “soft science”. How intellectually dishonest of you not to admit that.

2). The current 40 year increase in debt started with Reagan. As mentioned before this includes Democratic administrations who also embraced much of neo-liberalism.

3). This Twitter account will provide you with sone more graphs. Lol.

1) Economics is not inherently dishonest. The data tells a story. There are multiple variables and the story is up to interpretation. Saying that Reagan raised taxes on the middle class without qualifying that he also lowered taxes on the middle class is dishonest. When Reagan took office someone in the middle class was likely paying between 28 and 54+% in federal income taxes. When he left office they were paying between 15 and 28%. Income taxes on the middle class were close to cut in half during his presidency. Were there other changes that increased their taxes in other areas? Yes. Did they outweigh the overall reduction in their income taxes? On average, I doubt it.

2) Yes, it could be argued that the increase started with Reagan but it could also be argued that it started to inch up under Carter. More importantly Reagan isn't responsible for what happened after his presidency. The vast majority of the increase happened under Obama, trump and Biden. They and those Congresses are responsible for the budgets they passed and signed and their impact on the national debt.

3) I'm glad you've found a simple-minded playdate who also wants to blame all of America's woes on Reagan. You and he are entitled to your opinions but that doesn't make them accurate.

But yes, let's blame everything on Reagan and go back to a 70% income tax rate. I believe California has a max of of a 13.3% income tax rate. Add in local taxes and a high earner in California could be paying 85+% of their income to the government. That's not a disincentive to taking risks, building wealth and innovating at all.

"You're kidding yourself if you think cutting taxes is really cutting taxes. We’re simply deferring massive taxes unfairly and immorally putting huge debt burdens on future generations and that is just wrong."

David Stockman -Reagan’s Budget Director and one the original supply side architects.

Not to mention deferment of public infrastructure and look here…we’re now once again talking about cutting social security insurance.

You were saying?

[kalm]

Kalm reminds me of Professor Allen Hays at UNI. Everything was Reagan's fault. Had a guy in the class that was great at proclaiming Reagan to be the most awesomest president ever. If he would get that in we were done with lecture for the day because Hays would go on a rant about how bad Reagan was.

Professor Hays was a wise man.