Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

[UNI88]

If they don’t change it, most of the donks will cross over and vote in the conk primary, something that normally wouldn’t happen, to that degree. And if the donks were successful in winning thr conk primary, that would be sabotaging the seat in the general for the conks, as most conks won’t vote for her, giving the donks a seat. So yes, don’t be obtuse, of course it’s the timing. And if the situation were the same in a deep blue state, the donks would be doing the same thing. But keep telling yourself its the MAGAs being sore losers if it makes yourself feel any better.

I didn't say that pseudo-progressives weren't sore losers too. Look at all of the pearl clutching over Manchin and Sinema. They're peas in a pod and "they would do the same thing" isn't a good reason.

Any primary relying on government resources should be open. Want a closed primary, coordinate and pay for it yourself.

Speaking of sore progressive losers, this guy's already making excuses ...

Liberal MSNBC host preemptively blames Manchin, Sinema for Democrats' potential 2022 midterm shellacking



Reminds me of Trump in that regard.

[UNI88]

Sure if they're were trying to change it because it was a bad idea but they're trying to change it because Trump's a whiny, cry baby loser.

And I don't know about Wyoming but I know that in Illinois, county governments are responsible for running the major party primaries using county employees and funds. Any primary relying on government resources should be open. Want a closed primary, coordinate and pay for it yourself.

I didn’t see it that way. They’re trying to change it and Trump ENDORSED the change….in your scenario they’d really have to wait until Cheney decided not to run again before changing it so as not to be able to “blame trump”.

So the in-state effort started before Cheney voted to impeach?

[AZGrizFan]

I didn’t see it that way. They’re trying to change it and Trump ENDORSED the change….in your scenario they’d really have to wait until Cheney decided not to run again before changing it so as not to be able to “blame trump”.

So the in-state effort started before Cheney voted to impeach?

I have no idea. Don’t really care. It’s a bad law and needs to be changed.

[kalm]

A cargo ship containing about 4,000 luxury cars is burning and adrift somewhere in the Atlantic near the Azores. The cargo includes Porsches, Audis, and Lamborghinis. Salvage vessels en route. Rumor has it that 93 and Chizzang are also on their way.

They will be too late. I am already there and snagged myself a nice 911 edition 50.

Good choice. About the only thing I’d take over that is a GT 4 or one of these…

[kalm]

If they don’t change it, most of the donks will cross over and vote in the conk primary, something that normally wouldn’t happen, to that degree. And if the donks were successful in winning thr conk primary, that would be sabotaging the seat in the general for the conks, as most conks won’t vote for her, giving the donks a seat. So yes, don’t be obtuse, of course it’s the timing. And if the situation were the same in a deep blue state, the donks would be doing the same thing. But keep telling yourself its the MAGAs being sore losers if it makes yourself feel any better.

I didn't say that pseudo-progressives weren't sore losers too. Look at all of the pearl clutching over Manchin and Sinema. They're peas in a pod and "they would do the same thing" isn't a good reason.

Any primary relying on government resources should be open. Want a closed primary, coordinate and pay for it yourself.

[UNI88]

So the in-state effort started before Cheney voted to impeach?

I have no idea. Don’t really care. It’s a bad law and needs to be changed.

If the in-state effort started after Cheney voted to impeach then it's extremely likely that they're changing it because of Trump's temper tantrums and not because it's a bad law.

And I will state again "any primary relying on government resources should be open. Want a closed primary, coordinate and pay for it yourself." If a primary uses taxpayer dollars then it should be open to all taxpayers.

[AZGrizFan]

I have no idea. Don’t really care. It’s a bad law and needs to be changed.

If the in-state effort started after Cheney voted to impeach then it's extremely likely that they're changing it because of Trump's temper tantrums and not because it's a bad law.

And I will state again "any primary relying on government resources should be open. Want a closed primary, coordinate and pay for it yourself." If a primary uses taxpayer dollars then it should be open to all taxpayers.

It is. Depending on your party affiliation.

[UNI88]

If the in-state effort started after Cheney voted to impeach then it's extremely likely that they're changing it because of Trump's temper tantrums and not because it's a bad law.

And I will state again "any primary relying on government resources should be open. Want a closed primary, coordinate and pay for it yourself." If a primary uses taxpayer dollars then it should be open to all taxpayers.

It is. Depending on your party affiliation.

We're not going to agree on this one. IMO, any citizen should be able to vote in a primary that is coordinated using their tax dollars regardless of party affiliation. If a party doesn't want a closed primary then they should not rely on the government to fund it. One less mouth suckling at the gubmint tit.

[Ivytalk]

It is. Depending on your party affiliation.

We're not going to agree on this one. IMO, any citizen should be able to vote in a primary that is coordinated using their tax dollars regardless of party affiliation. If a party doesn't want a closed primary then they should not rely on the government to fund it. One less mouth suckling at the gubmint tit.

Delaware, among other states, has closed primaries. There is a strong freedom-of-association argument in favor of them. Crossover primaries are always potentially subject to mischief-making by members of the other major party who seek to tilt the result toward a weaker candidate. The Cheney name is strong in Wyoming, so I think Liz will win no matter what primary system she runs in.

[AZGrizFan]

It is. Depending on your party affiliation.

We're not going to agree on this one. IMO, any citizen should be able to vote in a primary that is coordinated using their tax dollars regardless of party affiliation. If a party doesn't want a closed primary then they should not rely on the government to fund it. One less mouth suckling at the gubmint tit.

That’s great, if you could eliminate the tomfoolery that is bound to go on to fuck with the other party’s candidates. But you can’t. So here we are…a crappy law/process that needs to be revised. Because people aren’t to be trusted.

[SeattleGriz]

Cheney's grift has been exposed. She sucks.

[UNI88]

Cheney's grift has been exposed. She sucks.

That's funny. Why is it funny? Because the guy who is trying to oust her is a bigger grifter and sucks so badly that he could pull a bowling ball through a garden hose. I wonder if he has pistol-grip ears, fold-back teeth, and a flat head?

[UNI88]

We're not going to agree on this one. IMO, any citizen should be able to vote in a primary that is coordinated using their tax dollars regardless of party affiliation. If a party doesn't want a closed primary then they should not rely on the government to fund it. One less mouth suckling at the gubmint tit.

Delaware, among other states, has closed primaries. There is a strong freedom-of-association argument in favor of them. Crossover primaries are always potentially subject to mischief-making by members of the other major party who seek to tilt the result toward a weaker candidate. The Cheney name is strong in Wyoming, so I think Liz will win no matter what primary system she runs in.

I get that and I don't disagree with it. I have two issues with this effort: One, it's vindictive and not based on fixing a bad law/process. Two, I don't think taxpayer dollars should be used to exclude people from the process.

It would be hilarious if this passes and Cheney wins anyway. It would be interesting who Trump would throw under the bus to excuse him getting his azz kicked again. The richness would be worth having a neo-con in Congress.

[SeattleGriz]

Cheney's grift has been exposed. She sucks.

That's funny. Why is it funny? Because the guy who is trying to oust her is a bigger grifter and sucks so badly that he could pull a bowling ball through a garden hose. I wonder if he has pistol-grip ears, fold-back teeth, and a flat head?

Does his spouse work for the group prosecuting Jan 6 and make 4.2 million as a partner? Liz's boobie does.

[UNI88]

That's funny. Why is it funny? Because the guy who is trying to oust her is a bigger grifter and sucks so badly that he could pull a bowling ball through a garden hose. I wonder if he has pistol-grip ears, fold-back teeth, and a flat head?

Does his spouse work for the group prosecuting Jan 6 and make 4.2 million as a partner? Liz's boobie does.

Wow? If I tried to post the reasons that Trump's a grifter and a miserable excuse for a human being I'd have to type through the night.

[SeattleGriz]

Does his spouse work for the group prosecuting Jan 6 and make 4.2 million as a partner? Liz's boobie does.

Wow? If I tried to post the reasons that Trump's a grifter and a miserable excuse for a human being I'd have to type through the night.

It's one big family and Trump isn't a part, and neither are we.

[UNI88]

Wow? If I tried to post the reasons that Trump's a grifter and a miserable excuse for a human being I'd have to type through the night.

It's one big family and Trump isn't a part.

Trump didn't go to Washington to clean up the grift. He went to replace it with his own. And he convinced millions of marks that he was fighting for them.

[SeattleGriz]

It's one big family and Trump isn't a part.

Trump didn't go to Washington to clean up the grift. He went to replace it with his own. And he convinced millions of marks that he was fighting for them.

Big fucking deal. Who gives two shits what he does?. Did he deliver more to the American people than the traditional politician? I think he did.

[AZGrizFan]

Delaware, among other states, has closed primaries. There is a strong freedom-of-association argument in favor of them. Crossover primaries are always potentially subject to mischief-making by members of the other major party who seek to tilt the result toward a weaker candidate. The Cheney name is strong in Wyoming, so I think Liz will win no matter what primary system she runs in.

I get that and I don't disagree with it. I have two issues with this effort: One, it's vindictive and not based on fixing a bad law/process. Two, I don't think taxpayer dollars should be used to exclude people from the process.

It would be hilarious if this passes and Cheney wins anyway. It would be interesting who Trump would throw under the bus to excuse him getting his azz kicked again. The richness would be worth having a neo-con in Congress.

How is voting according to your party “excluding people from the process?” You’re starting to sound like Houndie here….

[Pwns]

Closed primaries suck, I've complained about them before.

But here I ldoubt there's enough donk cross-over votes to save Cheney, anyways.

[UNI88]

Trump didn't go to Washington to clean up the grift. He went to replace it with his own. And he convinced millions of marks that he was fighting for them.

Big fucking deal. Who gives two shits what he does?. Did he deliver more to the American people than the traditional politician? I think he did.

It's hypocritical to want to criticize Cheney for her grift but give Trump a pass on his.

• On the plus side, a lot of good things happened during Trump's presidency. On the negative side, he's a lying, cheating, stealing, rapist grifter.
• On the plus side, Cheney voted for Trump's impeachment (which while a waste of political time was a reasonable vote). On the negative side she's a neo-con grifter.

[kalm]

Big fucking deal. Who gives two shits what he does?. Did he deliver more to the American people than the traditional politician? I think he did.

It's hypocritical to want to criticize Cheney for her grift but give Trump a pass on his.

• On the plus side, a lot of good things happened during Trump's presidency. On the negative side, he's a lying, cheating, stealing, rapist grifter.
• On the plus side, Cheney voted for Trump's impeachment (which while a waste of political time was a reasonable vote). On the negative side she's a neo-con grifter.

“Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud”

In a house full of fraudsters there are really few choices.

Trump just happens to be the king. Also a bit of reflection on America….

Unfortunately.

[AZGrizFan]

It's hypocritical to want to criticize Cheney for her grift but give Trump a pass on his.

• On the plus side, a lot of good things happened during Trump's presidency. On the negative side, he's a lying, cheating, stealing, rapist grifter.
• On the plus side, Cheney voted for Trump's impeachment (which while a waste of political time was a reasonable vote). On the negative side she's a neo-con grifter.

“Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud”

In a house full of fraudsters there are really few choices.

Trump just happens to be the king. Also a bit of reflection on America….

Unfortunately.

No doubt. But NOT a reflection of congress or the resident DC power elite. Thus their frothing at the mouth to get him out at any cost.

[CID1990]

Trump didn't go to Washington to clean up the grift. He went to replace it with his own. And he convinced millions of marks that he was fighting for them.

Big fucking deal. Who gives two shits what he does?. Did he deliver more to the American people than the traditional politician? I think he did.

LAWL

It’s the old Marge Schott “Hitler built the autobahns” two-step

Obviously the Trump admin had some good policies

But it takes a very special brand of tone deafness to switch on the grift radar on ANYONE in defense of Donald Trump


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[SeattleGriz]

Big fucking deal. Who gives two shits what he does?. Did he deliver more to the American people than the traditional politician? I think he did.

LAWL

It’s the old Marge Schott “Hitler built the autobahns” two-step

Obviously the Trump admin had some good policies

But it takes a very special brand of tone deafness to switch on the grift radar on ANYONE in defense of Donald Trump


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No defending Trump's grift. I was simply dumping on Cheney and hadn't realized UNI had brought up Trump specifically before I chimed in. Had to go back and read the thread.

But, if asked to pick between the two, I'd pick Trump for at least trying to make life better.