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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:07 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:29 pm

Sounds like about 4-5 days? As far as his stance, he stated that he wasn't a doctor, but a moron. Also still feels there are those that don't need to get the vaccine.
Didn't he have a doctor on a few days ago telling him he's wrong? Yet continued to spread misinformation, gets COVID, receives at least one expensive treatment others rarely get, then goes "SEE THIS WORKS!" Plus I don't know about you, but this is a really tough decision:

Option A -

COVID vaccine

Option B -

Monoclonal antibodies
Cattle dewormer - Ivermectin
Z Pack
Prednisone
NAD & Vitamin IVs (3 days in a row)

To be honest, I have a gut feeling he's vaccinated and this is just one of those things to continue the grift. Considering his cult of personality, dude's indirectly responsible for at least a few thousand deaths with the garbage he says on air.

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehea ... lines.html
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HI54UNI wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:45 am Coronabros freaking out over the return of college football.

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The packed stadiums are a big "fuck you" to the Coronabros. I thoroughly enjoy it. :nod:
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:17 pm
SDHornet wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:13 pm

Again, this is something new that everyone is dealing with. And no, I'm not going to willingly submit to big pharma after a meager 6 weeks of data. :lol:
They have years of data on vaccines. Do you have a list of the ones that show new side effects after 6 weeks? You mention long term side effects of this vaccine, but don't present data on any vaccine with long term side effects that occur after 6 weeks.
There you go conflating other vaccines with this new one that just came out again.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:09 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:07 pm

Didn't he have a doctor on a few days ago telling him he's wrong? Yet continued to spread misinformation, gets COVID, receives at least one expensive treatment others rarely get, then goes "SEE THIS WORKS!" Plus I don't know about you, but this is a really tough decision:

Option A -

COVID vaccine

Option B -

Monoclonal antibodies
Cattle dewormer - Ivermectin
Z Pack
Prednisone
NAD & Vitamin IVs (3 days in a row)

To be honest, I have a gut feeling he's vaccinated and this is just one of those things to continue the grift. Considering his cult of personality, dude's indirectly responsible for at least a few thousand deaths with the garbage he says on air.

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehea ... lines.html
Didn't it win a Nobel peace prize in 2004 for human use?

Also a lot of stories about a high percentage of hospitalizations resulting from people using the horse paste have been debunked.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:56 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:17 pm

They have years of data on vaccines. Do you have a list of the ones that show new side effects after 6 weeks? You mention long term side effects of this vaccine, but don't present data on any vaccine with long term side effects that occur after 6 weeks.
There you go conflating other vaccines with this new one that just came out again.
No, side effects are most likely to show in the first 6 weeks of this virus. Very rare if there are any new side effects after that. Very rare.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:02 pm
Didn't it win a Nobel peace prize in 2004 for human use?

Also a lot of stories about a high percentage of hospitalizations resulting from people using the horse paste have been debunked.
Human version used for parasites, at recommended doses. But feel free to squirt the horse version up peoples asses, might give them a soothing feeling during seasons of high parasite counts.

As far as covid, Ivermectin is like bringing a rubber knife to a gun fight.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:01 am
SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:56 pm

There you go conflating other vaccines with this new one that just came out again.
No, side effects are most likely to show in the first 6 weeks of this virus. Very rare if there are any new side effects after that. Very rare.
Compared to what other mRNA vaccines on the market?
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:07 am
SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:02 pm

Didn't it win a Nobel peace prize in 2004 for human use?

Also a lot of stories about a high percentage of hospitalizations resulting from people using the horse paste have been debunked.
Human version used for parasites, at recommended doses. But feel free to squirt the horse version up peoples asses, might give them a soothing feeling during seasons of high parasite counts.

As far as covid, Ivermectin is like bringing a rubber knife to a gun fight.
Lol. Point being if it's prescribed by a doctor, what's the big deal?

But yeah those idiots self medicating with over the counter animal drugs, good luck and :lol: :dunce:

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SDHornet wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:28 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:01 am

No, side effects are most likely to show in the first 6 weeks of this virus. Very rare if there are any new side effects after that. Very rare.
Compared to what other mRNA vaccines on the market?
Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades. Interest has grown in these vaccines because they can be developed in a laboratory using readily available materials. This means the process can be standardized and scaled up, making vaccine development faster than traditional methods of making vaccines.

mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). As soon as the necessary information about the virus that causes COVID-19 was available, scientists began designing the mRNA instructions for cells to build the unique spike protein into an mRNA vaccine.
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As opposed to, "If it saves $1, it doesn't matter how many lives it cost". Got them on both sides.
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Hardly any side effects with the first two Moderna shots but the booster…wowza!

Got it Friday. Just a sore arm. Tried to play golf Saturday and was fatigued and weak the whole day. Felt normal Sunday. Sunday night and all day yesterday was like the flu with gastro issues, aches, massive fatigue, but no fever. Uncomfortable sleep most of the day.

Hence why I’m up at 2:30 am writing this glowing endorsement. :mrgreen:
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kalm wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:53 am Hardly any side effects with the first two Moderna shots but the booster…wowza!

Got it Friday. Just a sore arm. Tried to play golf Saturday and was fatigued and weak the whole day. Felt normal Sunday. Sunday night and all day yesterday was like the flu with gastro issues, aches, massive fatigue, but no fever. Uncomfortable sleep most of the day.

Hence why I’m up at 2:30 am writing this glowing endorsement. :mrgreen:
How did you get a booster shot of Moderna? I thought it was not supposed to happen until after 8 months? When did you get your first two shots?
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CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:12 am
kalm wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:53 am Hardly any side effects with the first two Moderna shots but the booster…wowza!

Got it Friday. Just a sore arm. Tried to play golf Saturday and was fatigued and weak the whole day. Felt normal Sunday. Sunday night and all day yesterday was like the flu with gastro issues, aches, massive fatigue, but no fever. Uncomfortable sleep most of the day.

Hence why I’m up at 2:30 am writing this glowing endorsement. :mrgreen:
How did you get a booster shot of Moderna? I thought it was not supposed to happen until after 8 months? When did you get your first two shots?
Liver disease is one of the approved groups for boosters now. Got my 2nd shot in mid April. Primary care physician ok’d this one.
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kalm wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:29 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:12 am

How did you get a booster shot of Moderna? I thought it was not supposed to happen until after 8 months? When did you get your first two shots?
Liver disease is one of the approved groups for boosters now. Got my 2nd shot in mid April. Primary care physician ok’d this one.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:02 pm
Didn't it win a Nobel peace prize in 2004 for human use?

Also a lot of stories about a high percentage of hospitalizations resulting from people using the horse paste have been debunked.
As an anti-viral? No, it did not.
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If some of you want to live life as a horse with worms, more power to you. I don't 100% get it, but this is America so you do you.

All my simple mind knows is that worms =/= virus. Sure lab trials show it kills the virus in a petri dish, but so does rubbing alcohol and I don't plan to chug that anytime soon. I'm sure the manufacturer doesn't know any better either: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:38 am If some of you want to live life as a horse with worms, more power to you. I don't 100% get it, but this is America so you do you.

All my simple mind knows is that worms =/= virus. Sure lab trials show it kills the virus in a petri dish, but so does rubbing alcohol and I don't plan to chug that anytime soon. I'm sure the manufacturer doesn't know any better either: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/
I'm at the point where if people want to play illogical/stupid games then whatever...just don't expect sympathy or compassion from others (of course they will).
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:50 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:38 am If some of you want to live life as a horse with worms, more power to you. I don't 100% get it, but this is America so you do you.

All my simple mind knows is that worms =/= virus. Sure lab trials show it kills the virus in a petri dish, but so does rubbing alcohol and I don't plan to chug that anytime soon. I'm sure the manufacturer doesn't know any better either: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/
I'm at the point where if people want to play illogical/stupid games then whatever...just don't expect sympathy or compassion from others (of course they will).
End of days crap for sure, at least for the Darwinian contestants.

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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:50 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:38 am If some of you want to live life as a horse with worms, more power to you. I don't 100% get it, but this is America so you do you.

All my simple mind knows is that worms =/= virus. Sure lab trials show it kills the virus in a petri dish, but so does rubbing alcohol and I don't plan to chug that anytime soon. I'm sure the manufacturer doesn't know any better either: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/
I'm at the point where if people want to play illogical/stupid games then whatever...just don't expect sympathy or compassion from others (of course they will).
Do you both have the same lack of sympathy for the 90% of COVID victims who are morbidly obese because of lifestyle choices?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:25 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:50 am
I'm at the point where if people want to play illogical/stupid games then whatever...just don't expect sympathy or compassion from others (of course they will).
Do you both have the same lack of sympathy for the 90% of COVID victims who are morbidly obese because of lifestyle choices?
Do I feel equal or less sympathy for people who contracted a disease the same way about people who think the virus is either a hoax or not a big deal then medicate themselves with a horse de-wormer vs the actual treatment for illness? :dunce: That's a stupid question. Not everyone who contracts an illness is careless or negligent. In my opinion, anyone using the wrong medication to treat something is being careless. Especially when the manufacturer of said medicine says to NOT use it.

Example - my wife just had an allergic reaction and I had to use the Epi-pen on her. I used the right tool for the problem. I have zero sympathy for people who have a problem and then go use the wrong tools for it. It defies logic.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:25 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:50 am
I'm at the point where if people want to play illogical/stupid games then whatever...just don't expect sympathy or compassion from others (of course they will).
Do you both have the same lack of sympathy for the 90% of COVID victims who are morbidly obese because of lifestyle choices?
I still have sympathy for unvaccinated people dying of Covid. It's getting increasingly hard to dig for it, but when I get there, I'm reminded many are victims of misinformation campaigns, propaganda, echo chambers, lack of good educational opportunities, etc. In the end, they're still human...with all the emotions involved...and they're meeting an unnecessary, painful, lonely end.

That isn't to say they're not to blame for their personal decisions, but a combination of many things - some out of their control - lead to this finality in which reality catches up in a fatal way. Some redeem themselves on the way out, some will delude themselves to the end, but the cruel beauty of it all is that the virus doesn't care about your thoughts, your morals, your Gods, your loved ones, or any redemption arcs.

With that said, these people are hurting society as a whole and there's a reason it's getting harder to find the sympathy. Morbidly obese individuals don't often hurt anyone but themselves.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:35 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:25 am

Do you both have the same lack of sympathy for the 90% of COVID victims who are morbidly obese because of lifestyle choices?
I still have sympathy for unvaccinated people dying of Covid. It's getting increasingly hard to dig for it, but when I get there, I'm reminded many are victims of misinformation campaigns, propaganda, echo chambers, lack of good educational opportunities, etc. In the end, they're still human...with all the emotions involved...and they're meeting an unnecessary, painful, lonely end.

That isn't to say they're not to blame for their personal decisions, but a combination of many things - some out of their control - lead to this finality in which reality catches up in a fatal way. Some redeem themselves on the way out, some will delude themselves to the end, but the cruel beauty of it all is that the virus doesn't care about your thoughts, your morals, your Gods, your loved ones, or any redemption arcs.

With that said, these people are hurting society as a whole and there's a reason it's getting harder to find the sympathy. Morbidly obese individuals don't often hurt anyone but themselves.
All of this. :nod:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:35 am ...these people are hurting society as a whole...
This. Same with those pineapple pushers in pizzerias.
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