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Between 2003 and 2016, the United States transferred 75,898 vehicles, 599,690 weapons, 162,643 pieces of communications equipment, 208 aircraft, and 16,191 pieces of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance equipment to Afghan forces, according to a 2017 Government Accountability Office report.

From 2017 to 2019, the United States also gave Afghan forces 7,035 machine guns, 4,702 Humvees, 20,040 hand grenades, 2,520 bombs and 1,394 grenade launchers, among other equipment, according to a report last year from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR).

As of June 30, Afghan forces had 211 U.S.-supplied aircraft in their inventory, a separate SIGAR report said.

At least 46 of those aircraft are now in Uzbekistan after more than 500 Afghan troops used them to flee as the government in Kabul collapsed over the weekend.
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The guy literally has spent 90% of his disastrous pressers changing the subject

Nearly nobody is claiming we should have stayed in Afghanistan. He keeps setting up that stupid straw man.


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SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:31 pm
houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:20 pm

there aren't any good ones, we "negotiated" away pretty much everything last year - released 5,000 fighters, and let the guy who is the new head of state go scot-free. The one thing Biden has going for him is that the public wants the fuck out of the Forever War and they want out now
Yes, but the public also doesn't want the country to get embarrassed on the way out like Biden* has allowed to happen.
Wrong again, as usual. Covid is hurting his numbers much more than Afghanistan. :coffee:

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CID1990 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:05 pm
BDKJMU wrote: For Biden being available for comments doesn’t cut it either. Pure delusion comes out of his mouth that his spokespeople are left srambling to try and spin.
It isn’t delusion - he is either being lied to by the people around him or he is lying himself. The latest presser was literally a long string of whoppers.

There was like 6 months of Trump whoppers packed into the last week

They aren’t being careful about it either -


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...or both. From the outside looking in it seems like the crux of the biscuit is that we don't have enough troops on hand to safely evacuate the civilians that are coming with us. Blaming the Trump admin for laying that trap is certainly justified but it doesn't absolve the Biden admin for walking right into it - did he ignore advice from his Generals that there weren't enough troops to pull out the people we want to pull out safely or were they caught flat-footed too? You'd think this would have been discussed by the transition people when we pulled out 85% of the troops last year. :?
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Harris asked about Afghanistan, the 1st thing out of her mouth: Ha, ha, ha, ha.
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houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:54 am
CID1990 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:05 pm
It isn’t delusion - he is either being lied to by the people around him or he is lying himself. The latest presser was literally a long string of whoppers.

There was like 6 months of Trump whoppers packed into the last week

They aren’t being careful about it either -


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...or both. From the outside looking in it seems like the crux of the biscuit is that we don't have enough troops on hand to safely evacuate the civilians that are coming with us. Blaming the Trump admin for laying that trap is certainly justified but it doesn't absolve the Biden admin for walking right into it - did he ignore advice from his Generals that there weren't enough troops to pull out the people we want to pull out safely or were they caught flat-footed too? You'd think this would have been discussed by the transition people when we pulled out 85% of the troops last year. :?
We HAVE to still have more troops there than France or UK….and THEY are going out and rounding up their people….
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houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:23 am Wrong again, as usual. Covid is hurting his numbers much more than Afghanistan. :coffee:

SDHornet. :ohno:
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Covid: 53% approve, 44% disapprove
Economy: 47% approve, 49% disapprove
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The title of the article is hilarious. :lol:

Britain loses patience with Sleepy Joe: Tony Blair brands Biden’s decision to quit Afghanistan ‘imbecilic’ amid claims Boris remarked 'we would be better off with Trump'
Tony Blair has blasted Joe Biden's 'imbecilic' decision to withdraw US troops from Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, calling the President's scuttle 'tragic, dangerous and unnecessary' and claiming the move had 'every Jihadist group round the world cheering'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... istan.html
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houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:54 am
CID1990 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 1:05 pm
It isn’t delusion - he is either being lied to by the people around him or he is lying himself. The latest presser was literally a long string of whoppers.

There was like 6 months of Trump whoppers packed into the last week

They aren’t being careful about it either -


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...or both. From the outside looking in it seems like the crux of the biscuit is that we don't have enough troops on hand to safely evacuate the civilians that are coming with us. Blaming the Trump admin for laying that trap is certainly justified but it doesn't absolve the Biden admin for walking right into it - did he ignore advice from his Generals that there weren't enough troops to pull out the people we want to pull out safely or were they caught flat-footed too? You'd think this would have been discussed by the transition people when we pulled out 85% of the troops last year. :?
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:09 am Image
Between 2003 and 2016, the United States transferred 75,898 vehicles, 599,690 weapons, 162,643 pieces of communications equipment, 208 aircraft, and 16,191 pieces of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance equipment to Afghan forces, according to a 2017 Government Accountability Office report.

From 2017 to 2019, the United States also gave Afghan forces 7,035 machine guns, 4,702 Humvees, 20,040 hand grenades, 2,520 bombs and 1,394 grenade launchers, among other equipment, according to a report last year from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR).

As of June 30, Afghan forces had 211 U.S.-supplied aircraft in their inventory, a separate SIGAR report said.

At least 46 of those aircraft are now in Uzbekistan after more than 500 Afghan troops used them to flee as the government in Kabul collapsed over the weekend.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5684 ... by-taliban
:ohno: :ohno: we should have remote detonate capabilities on those planes and vehicles. Wait til we track on on the move and/or in the air. Hopefully they'll be so poorly trained they'll crash the planes into one another.
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CitadelGrad wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:36 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:54 am

...or both. From the outside looking in it seems like the crux of the biscuit is that we don't have enough troops on hand to safely evacuate the civilians that are coming with us. Blaming the Trump admin for laying that trap is certainly justified but it doesn't absolve the Biden admin for walking right into it - did he ignore advice from his Generals that there weren't enough troops to pull out the people we want to pull out safely or were they caught flat-footed too? You'd think this would have been discussed by the transition people when we pulled out 85% of the troops last year. :?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Per usual, he has zero idea.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:26 pm
CitadelGrad wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:36 am
What the fuck are you talking about?
Per usual, he has zero idea.
I think he's talking about the crappy agreement that Trump made with the Taliban last year. You know the one that they were able to comply with while taking over Afghanistan.
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CID1990 wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:16 pm
Baldy wrote:Image
The guy literally has spent 90% of his disastrous pressers changing the subject

Nearly nobody is claiming we should have stayed in Afghanistan. He keeps setting up that stupid straw man.


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Ibanez wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:12 am
:ohno: :ohno: we should have remote detonate capabilities on those planes and vehicles. Wait til we track on on the move and/or in the air. Hopefully they'll be so poorly trained they'll crash the planes into one another.
My concern is that they will be selling the aviation assets to China or Iran
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89Hen wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:52 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:23 am Wrong again, as usual. Covid is hurting his numbers much more than Afghanistan. :coffee:

SDHornet. :ohno:
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Covid: 53% approve, 44% disapprove
Economy: 47% approve, 49% disapprove
Afghanistan: 25% approve, 60% disapprove
:rofl:
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CitadelGrad wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:36 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:54 am

...or both. From the outside looking in it seems like the crux of the biscuit is that we don't have enough troops on hand to safely evacuate the civilians that are coming with us. Blaming the Trump admin for laying that trap is certainly justified but it doesn't absolve the Biden admin for walking right into it - did he ignore advice from his Generals that there weren't enough troops to pull out the people we want to pull out safely or were they caught flat-footed too? You'd think this would have been discussed by the transition people when we pulled out 85% of the troops last year. :?
What the fuck are you talking about?
... cutting a deal with the Taliban without the Afghani government at the table and then releasing 5,000 of their fighters and then pulling out 12,5000 of the 15,000 US troops last year. Fucking inbred booger-eater from St. Louis. :ohno:
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houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:23 pm
89Hen wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:52 am
:suspicious:

Covid: 53% approve, 44% disapprove
Economy: 47% approve, 49% disapprove
Afghanistan: 25% approve, 60% disapprove
:rofl:
Translation: I got nothing.
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Psaki: “No Amerocans are stranded in Afghanistan.”
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm
houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:23 pm

:rofl:
Translation: I got nothing.
I’d be laughing too, if I thought there were still 25% of Americans who think he’s doing a GOOD job with Afghanistan.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:20 pm Psaki: “No Amerocans are stranded in Afghanistan.”
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Someone needs to get word to this lady that she isn't stranded.

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Col Hogan wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:56 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:12 am

:ohno: :ohno: we should have remote detonate capabilities on those planes and vehicles. Wait til we track on on the move and/or in the air. Hopefully they'll be so poorly trained they'll crash the planes into one another.
My concern is that they will be selling the aviation assets to China or Iran
:thumb:

That's legit. They're "banning" heroin apparently. The Taliban will need to make up for that.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:20 pm
houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:23 pm

:rofl:
Translation: I got nothing.
I guess. :suspicious:
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BDKJMU wrote:Psaki: “No Amerocans are stranded in Afghanistan.”
:suspicious: :dunce:

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That was an in your face arrogant lie.


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