UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:19 pm
kalm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:30 pm
There’s been plenty of discussion showing their similarities. If you’d really like I can regurgitate them for you.
Violence, vandalism, and mob rule are bad mkay?
Still not the point of this thread or the article.
It's your thread, what is the point of the thread? It would appear that the point of the article was to criticize the Capital rioters, saying that the Founders, who conservatives venerate, would have been appalled. I don't disagree but I would add that IMO the Founders would have also been appalled but not surprised by the BLM/AnTiFa riots.
I'm not buying the argument that the Capital riots were orders of magnitude worse than the BLM/AnTiFa riots. They were an escalation, another step in the idiotic cycle of "violence, vandalism, and mob rule" that both extremes are engaging in. Articles like this are an attempt to focus blame on the alt-righters while deflecting from the ctl-lefters.
That would make sense if this was an attempted juxtaposition between the two. But that’s a different debate than what I posted.
As it happens, this was a question the Founders thought about extensively. Their political and moral philosophy was based on what they considered a self-evident truth: Only by using our powers of reason to moderate our selfish, ego-based passions and emotions can we achieve the classical virtues—prudence, temperance, justice, and courage—necessary for personal and political self-government. A mob, by contrast, is animated by vices: rashness, self-indulgence, vulgarity, vanity, ambition, boastfulness, buffoonery, and envy, as listed by Aristotle. These are just the sort of traits inculcated online, with likes and clicks rewarding the worst of human instincts.
Now...can you ascribe mob mentality to the race riots as well? Of course. They got out of hand and became at times “rash”, “vulgar”, etc.
Was their motivation the same? Was the desired outcome the same?
Like I suggested, those questions and a comparison to Jan. 6th is a different topic. We can discuss it further if you’d like to determine a champion of 2020 mob ethical justifications.