Bargaining With Fascists?

[Ibanez]

Can you imagine thinking some dude in a regional DNC group and a few twitter folks is somehow a broad call for "re-education camps."

What a terrifying world BDK must live in.

Can you imagine it being said by a sitting senator or congressperson? One who condones and supports thought reeducation?

That'd be nuts. And those people should be scuttled from the party.


Like a sitting US Congressperson suggesting we murder other Congress people.

[AZGrizFan]

Can you imagine it being said by a sitting senator or congressperson? One who condones and supports thought reeducation?

That'd be nuts. And those people should be scuttled from the party.


Like a sitting US Congressperson suggesting we murder other Congress people.

Or claiming one “almost had her murdered” because he disagreed with her.

[UNI88]

Pogrom..

That was a test. You failed. You are a Grammar Nazi.

Proof that Trump followers are Nazis!

[UNI88]

Well, we've had the left calling for re-education camps for Trump supporters, and now have the left (NYT) basically calling for a Ministry of Truth..

And you have the Right calling for people like Liz Cheney to step down for speaking her mind. There's bullshit going on in both camps.

and Adam Kinzinger
and Tom Rice

[BDKJMU]

Well, we've had the left calling for re-education camps for Trump supporters, and now have the left (NYT) basically calling for a Ministry of Truth..

And you have the Right calling for people like Liz Cheney to step down for speaking her mind. There's bullshit going on in both camps.

So forcefully putting someone in a "re-education camp" is the same as asking someone to simply step down?

[BDKJMU]

And you have the Right calling for people like Liz Cheney to step down for speaking her mind. There's bullshit going on in both camps.

and Adam Kinzinger
and Tom Rice

The Vichy Republicans..

[UNI88]

and Adam Kinzinger
and Tom Rice

The Vichy Republicans..

As designated by Cancel Culture MAGAts.

[Ibanez]

That'd be nuts. And those people should be scuttled from the party.


Like a sitting US Congressperson suggesting we murder other Congress people.

Or claiming one “almost had her murdered” because he disagreed with her.

MTG actually said some Democrats should be murdered

AOC is exaggerating an ordeal and placing name on Cruz.

The two aren’t exactly the same things, IMO. AOC is over reacting.


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[Ibanez]

And you have the Right calling for people like Liz Cheney to step down for speaking her mind. There's bullshit going on in both camps.

So forcefully putting someone in a "re-education camp" is the same as asking someone to simply step down?

Have the Democrats actually tried to put people in camps? Have I missed this?

Republicans have actually run people out of the party and have tried to reduce their leadership roles because they won’t fawn over 1 man. It’s embarrassing


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[Ibanez]

and Adam Kinzinger
and Tom Rice

The Vichy Republicans..

Why? Because they exercise free speech and refuse to engage in group think? I thought you Republicans were against that. Why do you have 1A and individualism?

I’ve said it for years, both parties, especially the GOP, are in the midst of purity movements. You’re not a real Republican unless you kneel at the alter
of Trump and buy his bullshit. Same for Dems. Purity movements don’t end well.


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[AZGrizFan]

The Vichy Republicans..

Why? Because they exercise free speech and refuse to engage in group think? I thought you Republicans were against that. Why do you have 1A and individualism?

I’ve said it for years, both parties, especially the GOP, are in the midst of purity movements. You’re not a real Republican unless you kneel at the alter
of Trump and buy his bullshit. Same for Dems. Purity movements don’t end well.


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I don’t think there’s much difference at this point between the purity movements. Dems are well on their way as well.

[Ibanez]

Why? Because they exercise free speech and refuse to engage in group think? I thought you Republicans were against that. Why do you have 1A and individualism?

I’ve said it for years, both parties, especially the GOP, are in the midst of purity movements. You’re not a real Republican unless you kneel at the alter
of Trump and buy his bullshit. Same for Dems. Purity movements don’t end well.


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I don’t think there’s much difference at this point between the purity movements. Dems are well on their way as well.

There isn't much and the Democrats have been engaged in theirs longer than the Republicans have. The Reps are new to this, they're still looking for the toner.

[GannonFan]

I don’t think there’s much difference at this point between the purity movements. Dems are well on their way as well.

There isn't much and the Democrats have been engaged in theirs longer than the Republicans have. The Reps are new to this, they're still looking for the toner.

Huh? Goldwater, Reagan Revolution, Gingrich Contract with America, Compassionate Conservatism under W, Mitt and whether Mormons can be elected, the Tea Party, etc. I'm pretty sure the GOP has been at this just as long as the Dems have - it's politics, it's always turbulent. Human nature and all that.

[Ibanez]

There isn't much and the Democrats have been engaged in theirs longer than the Republicans have. The Reps are new to this, they're still looking for the toner.

Huh? Goldwater, Reagan Revolution, Gingrich Contract with America, Compassionate Conservatism under W, Mitt and whether Mormons can be elected, the Tea Party, etc. I'm pretty sure the GOP has been at this just as long as the Dems have - it's politics, it's always turbulent. Human nature and all that.

I honestly forgot about the Tea party but have we see Republicans as a whole totally submit to one person and an ideology like we've seen with Trump and MAGA?

[AZGrizFan]

Huh? Goldwater, Reagan Revolution, Gingrich Contract with America, Compassionate Conservatism under W, Mitt and whether Mormons can be elected, the Tea Party, etc. I'm pretty sure the GOP has been at this just as long as the Dems have - it's politics, it's always turbulent. Human nature and all that.

I honestly forgot about the Tea party but have we see Republicans as a whole totally submit to one person and an ideology like we've seen with Trump and MAGA?

Nothing happened “as a whole”. Lots and LOTS of conservatives merely tolerated Trump because he was the much lesser of two evils and because his policies aligned better. Are there MAGATards who worship him? Absolutely....but it’s hardly the entire party, nor even “most” of the party.

[kalm]

Huh? Goldwater, Reagan Revolution, Gingrich Contract with America, Compassionate Conservatism under W, Mitt and whether Mormons can be elected, the Tea Party, etc. I'm pretty sure the GOP has been at this just as long as the Dems have - it's politics, it's always turbulent. Human nature and all that.

I honestly forgot about the Tea party but have we see Republicans as a whole totally submit to one person and an ideology like we've seen with Trump and MAGA?

[UNI88]

I honestly forgot about the Tea party but have we see Republicans as a whole totally submit to one person and an ideology like we've seen with Trump and MAGA?

The cult of Reagan isn't anywhere close to the cult of Trump. It's more on par with the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

[AZGrizFan]

The cult of Reagan isn't anywhere close to the cult of Trump. It's more on par with the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

That i agree with.

[kalm]

The cult of Reagan isn't anywhere close to the cult of Trump. It's more on par with the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

It’s more cult like in behavior but Reagan got both political parties to continue some of his worst economic policies for decades.

[UNI88]

The cult of Reagan isn't anywhere close to the cult of Trump. It's more on par with the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

It’s more cult like in behavior but Reagan got both political parties to continue some of his worst economic policies for decades.

Exactly, very similar to the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

Now if only Teddy would have had a cult like that.

[kalm]

It’s more cult like in behavior but Reagan got both political parties to continue some of his worst economic policies for decades.

Exactly, very similar to the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

Now if only Teddy would have had a cult like that.

Obama was a continuation of neoliberalism dressed up as progressivism. FDR’s economics helped the middle class.

[kalm]

It’s more cult like in behavior but Reagan got both political parties to continue some of his worst economic policies for decades.

Exactly, very similar to the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

Now if only Teddy would have had a cult like that.

Hey! Ms. Rand! Why did you take down that last post! Did the commies get to you?!?

[UNI88]

Exactly, very similar to the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

Now if only Teddy would have had a cult like that.

Obama was a continuation of neoliberalism dressed up as progressivism. FDR’s economics helped the middle class.

Obama is a chameleon but underneath it all, he is a Chicago machine politician.

FDR's policies created a culture of dependence that we're still plagued by today.

An honest comparison of both would probably show that both did things that were necessary at the time.

• The income tax rates that Reagan inherited were absurd and needed to be cut. Cutting them to a reasonable level helped to spur an age of digital innovation that has benefited people around the world. Was it wise to continue cutting taxes without comparable cuts in spending? No.
• FDR inherited a crappy economic situation and put in place mechanisms to get people working and saving. Much of what he put in place should have been sunsetted as people got back on their feet rather than becoming a permanent part of the growing and byzantine federal bureaucracy.

We passed the point of diminishing returns on both Reagan's and FDR's policies not long after they left office.

[UNI88]

Exactly, very similar to the cults of Obama, Kennedy and FDR.

Now if only Teddy would have had a cult like that.

Hey! Ms. Rand! Why did you take down that last post! Did the commies get to you?!?

I took it down to add to it and reposted it doofus

[kalm]

Hey! Ms. Rand! Why did you take down that last post! Did the commies get to you?!?

I took it down to add to it and reposted it doofus

I’d prefer it if you posted non-“doofus”.