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The scales have fallen from my eyes over the past 5 years. The problem we have in this country is that the Democratic base is largely composed of the kind of people that allowed for things like Stalin and Mao consolidating power in the 20th century. We have learned that the Democratic base is the dark underbelly of United States culture. It is a big problem because traditional Democratic leadership is not willing to reject what the Democratic base has become.

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:23 pm The scales have fallen from my eyes over the past 5 years. The problem we have in this country is that the Democratic base is largely composed of the kind of people that allowed for things like Stalin and Mao consolidating power in the 20th century. We have learned that the Democratic base is the dark underbelly of United States culture. It is a big problem because traditional Democratic leadership is not willing to reject what the Democratic base has become.

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:23 pm The scales have fallen from my eyes over the past 5 years. The problem we have in this country is that the Democratic base is largely composed of the kind of people that allowed for things like Stalin and Mao consolidating power in the 20th century. We have learned that the Democratic base is the dark underbelly of United States culture. It is a big problem because traditional Democratic leadership is not willing to reject what the Democratic base has become.

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The difference is 88’s is 100% true.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:23 pm The scales have fallen from my eyes over the past 5 years. The problem we have in this country is that the Democratic base is largely composed of the kind of people that allowed for things like Stalin and Mao consolidating power in the 20th century. We have learned that the Democratic base is the dark underbelly of United States culture. It is a big problem because traditional Democratic leadership is not willing to reject what the Democratic base has become.

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I don't disagree, but on the other hand a largely Democratic city (Portland), rejected this very woman in favor of a more moderate (read: still squarely left) and widely unpopular mayor.You have to at least contextualize this.
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DuckDuckGriz wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:51 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:23 pm The scales have fallen from my eyes over the past 5 years. The problem we have in this country is that the Democratic base is largely composed of the kind of people that allowed for things like Stalin and Mao consolidating power in the 20th century. We have learned that the Democratic base is the dark underbelly of United States culture. It is a big problem because traditional Democratic leadership is not willing to reject what the Democratic base has become.

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I don't disagree, but on the other hand a largely Democratic city (Portland), rejected this very woman in favor of a more moderate (read: still squarely left) and widely unpopular mayor.You have to at least contextualize this.
You're not wrong DDG. I was just responding to this from the "The Republican Base" thread:
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:50 pm The scales have fallen from my eyes over the past 5 years. The problem we have in this country is that the Republican base is largely composed of the kind of people that allowed for things like Hitler and Mussolini consolidating power in the 20th century. We have learned that the Republican base is the dark underbelly of United State culture. It is a big problem because traditional Republican leadership is not willing to reject what the Republican base has become.
The photo was a useful graphic to emphasize the ctrl-left's connection to Stalin and Mao.
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The difference is that the Republican base consists of the type of people who enabled Hitler and Mussolini.

And the Democratic base has actually elected the type of people who enabled Stalin and Mao.
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It's clear the base of both parties has shifted quite a bit in the last decade.
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JoltinJoe wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:35 am The difference is that the Republican base consists of the type of people who enabled Hitler and Mussolini.

And the Democratic base has actually elected the type of people who enabled Stalin and Mao.
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JoltinJoe wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:35 am The difference is that the Republican base consists of the type of people who enabled Hitler and Mussolini.

And the Democratic base has actually elected the type of people who enabled Stalin and Mao.
Yeah...the R’s would NEVER elect a Hitler/Mussolini wannabe.

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kalm wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:34 pm
JoltinJoe wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:35 am The difference is that the Republican base consists of the type of people who enabled Hitler and Mussolini.

And the Democratic base has actually elected the type of people who enabled Stalin and Mao.
Yeah...the R’s would NEVER elect a Hitler/Mussolini wannabe.

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The system/framework that our prescient found fathers put in place makes it very difficult for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to actually take over. The D's want to subvert and replace that system/framework so that a Stalin/Mao wannabe can eventually take over. Look at all of the enablers saying the Constitution is a living document and calling for the end of the Electoral College.

What these fools don't understand is that those kinds of changes would also make it possible for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to eventually take over too.

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:57 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:34 pm

Yeah...the R’s would NEVER elect a Hitler/Mussolini wannabe.

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The system/framework that our prescient found fathers put in place makes it very difficult for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to actually take over. The D's want to subvert and replace that system/framework so that a Stalin/Mao wannabe can eventually take over. Look at all of the enablers saying the Constitution is a living document and calling for the end of the Electoral College.

What these fools don't understand is that those kinds of changes would also make it possible for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to eventually take over too.

:coffee:
Really? That’s the aim of the Democratic Party? To replace our system of government via peasant uprising? We’re now skipping Venezuela and going straight to the purges?

Did Stalinmao start with a dismantling of their electoral colleges? Has our constitution never changed or been interpreted?

So many questions you’ve created... :)
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kalm wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:45 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:57 pm

The system/framework that our prescient found fathers put in place makes it very difficult for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to actually take over. The D's want to subvert and replace that system/framework so that a Stalin/Mao wannabe can eventually take over. Look at all of the enablers saying the Constitution is a living document and calling for the end of the Electoral College.

What these fools don't understand is that those kinds of changes would also make it possible for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to eventually take over too.

:coffee:
Really? That’s the aim of the Democratic Party? To replace our system of government via peasant uprising? We’re now skipping Venezuela and going straight to the purges?

Did Stalinmao start with a dismantling of their electoral colleges? Has our constitution never changed or been interpreted?

So many questions you’ve created... :)
Hmmm... Executive overreach. Broad sweeping executive power. The dismantling of traditional norms. So many questions, indeed.

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Baldy wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:29 am
kalm wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:45 am

Really? That’s the aim of the Democratic Party? To replace our system of government via peasant uprising? We’re now skipping Venezuela and going straight to the purges?

Did Stalinmao start with a dismantling of their electoral colleges? Has our constitution never changed or been interpreted?

So many questions you’ve created... :)
Hmmm... Executive overreach. Broad sweeping executive power. The dismantling of traditional norms. So many questions, indeed.

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kalm wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:45 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:57 pm
The system/framework that our prescient found fathers put in place makes it very difficult for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to actually take over. The D's want to subvert and replace that system/framework so that a Stalin/Mao wannabe can eventually take over. Look at all of the enablers saying the Constitution is a living document and calling for the end of the Electoral College.

What these fools don't understand is that those kinds of changes would also make it possible for the Hitler/Mussolini wannabe to eventually take over too.

:coffee:
Really? That’s the aim of the Democratic Party? To replace our system of government via peasant uprising? We’re now skipping Venezuela and going straight to the purges?

Did Stalinmao start with a dismantling of their electoral colleges? Has our constitution never changed or been interpreted?

So many questions you’ve created... :)
I don't think that's the aim of the Democratic Party but I do think it's a long-term objective of members of the party like AOChe. Given the opportunity do I think she would want me to be "reeducated"? Yes, I do.

Yes, our constitution has been changed and there is a process to do it. If the pseudo-progressives want to change the Constitution they should follow the process. Instead, they bitch and moan about it and want to subvert it, not legally change it.

You don't see the hypocrisy of demonizing Trump as a Fascist/Hitler while excusing or worse venerating Mao and Stalin? The Hammer & Sickle should be considered a symbol of hate just as much as the swastika.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:54 am
kalm wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:45 am

Really? That’s the aim of the Democratic Party? To replace our system of government via peasant uprising? We’re now skipping Venezuela and going straight to the purges?

Did Stalinmao start with a dismantling of their electoral colleges? Has our constitution never changed or been interpreted?

So many questions you’ve created... :)
I don't think that's the aim of the Democratic Party but I do think it's a long-term objective of members of the party like AOChe. Given the opportunity do I think she would want me to be "reeducated"? Yes, I do.

Yes, our constitution has been changed and there is a process to do it. If the pseudo-progressives want to change the Constitution they should follow the process. Instead, they bitch and moan about it and want to subvert it, not legally change it.

You don't see the hypocrisy of demonizing Trump as a Fascist/Hitler while excusing or worse venerating Mao and Stalin? The Hammer & Sickle should be considered a symbol of hate just as much as the swastika.
These types of Leftist generally fall into two camps. They believe that "real Communism" has never been tried. OR that Communism was actually successful, but those meddling Capitalists with their free market and liberty screwed everything up.
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Baldy wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:47 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:54 am

I don't think that's the aim of the Democratic Party but I do think it's a long-term objective of members of the party like AOChe. Given the opportunity do I think she would want me to be "reeducated"? Yes, I do.

Yes, our constitution has been changed and there is a process to do it. If the pseudo-progressives want to change the Constitution they should follow the process. Instead, they bitch and moan about it and want to subvert it, not legally change it.

You don't see the hypocrisy of demonizing Trump as a Fascist/Hitler while excusing or worse venerating Mao and Stalin? The Hammer & Sickle should be considered a symbol of hate just as much as the swastika.
These types of Leftist generally fall into two camps. They believe that "real Communism" has never been tried. OR that Communism was actually successful, but those meddling Capitalists with their free market and liberty screwed everything up.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:54 am
kalm wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:45 am

Really? That’s the aim of the Democratic Party? To replace our system of government via peasant uprising? We’re now skipping Venezuela and going straight to the purges?

Did Stalinmao start with a dismantling of their electoral colleges? Has our constitution never changed or been interpreted?

So many questions you’ve created... :)
I don't think that's the aim of the Democratic Party but I do think it's a long-term objective of members of the party like AOChe. Given the opportunity do I think she would want me to be "reeducated"? Yes, I do.

Yes, our constitution has been changed and there is a process to do it. If the pseudo-progressives want to change the Constitution they should follow the process. Instead, they bitch and moan about it and want to subvert it, not legally change it.

You don't see the hypocrisy of demonizing Trump as a Fascist/Hitler while excusing or worse venerating Mao and Stalin? The Hammer & Sickle should be considered a symbol of hate just as much as the swastika.
So you believe AOC literally is pushing for a peasant uprising desiring to skip the Norse model and go straight to Venezuela.

Got it.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:54 am
kalm wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:45 am

Really? That’s the aim of the Democratic Party? To replace our system of government via peasant uprising? We’re now skipping Venezuela and going straight to the purges?

Did Stalinmao start with a dismantling of their electoral colleges? Has our constitution never changed or been interpreted?

So many questions you’ve created... :)
I don't think that's the aim of the Democratic Party but I do think it's a long-term objective of members of the party like AOChe. Given the opportunity do I think she would want me to be "reeducated"? Yes, I do.

Yes, our constitution has been changed and there is a process to do it. If the pseudo-progressives want to change the Constitution they should follow the process. Instead, they bitch and moan about it and want to subvert it, not legally change it.

You don't see the hypocrisy of demonizing Trump as a Fascist/Hitler while excusing or worse venerating Mao and Stalin? The Hammer & Sickle should be considered a symbol of hate just as much as the swastika.
:nod: They can't win by the existing rules, so they have to create their own (court packing, new states, etc). Or they just flat out ignore them (2020 election). :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:17 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:54 am
I don't think that's the aim of the Democratic Party but I do think it's a long-term objective of members of the party like AOChe. Given the opportunity do I think she would want me to be "reeducated"? Yes, I do.

Yes, our constitution has been changed and there is a process to do it. If the pseudo-progressives want to change the Constitution they should follow the process. Instead, they bitch and moan about it and want to subvert it, not legally change it.

You don't see the hypocrisy of demonizing Trump as a Fascist/Hitler while excusing or worse venerating Mao and Stalin? The Hammer & Sickle should be considered a symbol of hate just as much as the swastika.
So you believe AOC literally is pushing for a peasant uprising desiring to skip the Norse model and go straight to Venezuela.

Got it.
I specifically said long-term. AOChe wants to put the rural peasants in their place. She supports an urban uprising where a bunch of self-righteous Karens dictate to their rural inferiors how to be better people. It would be like having Joe dictating religious beliefs to the country. ;)

And that belief is less far fetched than the pseudo-progressive canard that Trump is Hitler/fascist.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:00 am
kalm wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:17 am

So you believe AOC literally is pushing for a peasant uprising desiring to skip the Norse model and go straight to Venezuela.

Got it.
I specifically said long-term. AOChe wants to put the rural peasants in their place. She supports an urban uprising where a bunch of self-righteous Karens dictate to their rural inferiors how to be better people. It would be like having Joe dictating religious beliefs to the country. ;)

And that belief is less far fetched than the pseudo-progressive canard that Trump is Hitler/fascist.
Yeah...... :roll: Michael Flynn (the guy that Trump just pardoned) is making the rounds touting martial law for Fuhrer Trump. :thumb:
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kalm wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:12 am
Baldy wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:47 pm
These types of Leftist generally fall into two camps. They believe that "real Communism" has never been tried. OR that Communism was actually successful, but those meddling Capitalists with their free market and liberty screwed everything up.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. This country needs a Kennedy Project to counter the pseudo-progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

We've gone from Kennedy's “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country" to pseudo-progressives telling people to ask what the government can do for them.

Encouraging a lack of personal responsibility and initiative is a huge threat to the future of this country.
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