Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

[Gil Dobie]

Mayor Lori Lightfoot pulls out of Crain’s roundtable to avoid being on same stage as Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, sources say

[CID1990]

Here’s a question someone should ask the Minneapolis city council

(not that I care.. towns like that may as well be on the moon where I am concerned)

But what is their plan for dealing with insurance companies that will drop coverage on all things like homes and cars when there are no police to protect property?

What is their plan for dealing with banks that will not finance cars, homes, or businesses in the city?

What is their plan for having no ISO rating?

What is their plan for having zero ability to use the bond structure for capital improvements/infrastructure?

In reality, their unwillingness to do those necessary things over the years to fix their police department are a de facto defunding of ALL of their city government and its departments, because those people and businesses that pay the lion’s share of taxes are not going to stick around and pay property taxes to a city that wants to dismantle police services. That will cut into lots of things, but probably not the private security contract for the mayor and council members... oh no not that

And- like all progressive city councils, they love themselves some regulations... like taxes on cigarettes ... they’ll want the police to enforce all those petty rules. And remember- Eric Garner isn’t going to accept a ticket from a meter maid or a social worker


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[AZGrizFan]

Here’s a question someone should ask the Minneapolis city council

(not that I care.. towns like that may as well be on the moon where I am concerned)

But what is their plan for dealing with insurance companies that will drop coverage on all things like homes and cars when there are no police to protect property?

What is their plan for dealing with banks that will not finance cars, homes, or businesses in the city?

What is their plan for having no ISO rating?

What is their plan for having zero ability to use the bond structure for capital improvements/infrastructure?

In reality, their unwillingness to do those necessary things over the years to fix their police department are a de facto defunding of ALL of their city government and its departments, because those people and businesses that pay the lion’s share of taxes are not going to stick around and pay property taxes to a city that wants to dismantle police services. That will cut into lots of things, but probably not the private security contract for the mayor and council members... oh no not that

And- like all progressive city councils, they love themselves some regulations... like taxes on cigarettes ... they’ll want the police to enforce all those petty rules. And remember- Eric Garner isn’t going to accept a ticket from a meter maid or a social worker


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There isn’t anyone there able to put a coherent thought together, let alone play out the scenarios to the extent they’d have to to be able to answer (or even ask) these questions. ANd if someone DID, there’s no doubt they’d be shouted down and shamed into silence.

[Pwns]

What is their plan?

Shout "racism" and get a law passed against the bigoted banks and insurance companies.

[CID1990]

What is their plan?

Shout "racism" and get a law passed against the bigoted banks and insurance companies.

A municipal banking/insurance law?

Yeah that’d be comical


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[SDHornet]

Here’s a question someone should ask the Minneapolis city council

(not that I care.. towns like that may as well be on the moon where I am concerned)

But what is their plan for dealing with insurance companies that will drop coverage on all things like homes and cars when there are no police to protect property?

What is their plan for dealing with banks that will not finance cars, homes, or businesses in the city?

What is their plan for having no ISO rating?

What is their plan for having zero ability to use the bond structure for capital improvements/infrastructure?

In reality, their unwillingness to do those necessary things over the years to fix their police department are a de facto defunding of ALL of their city government and its departments, because those people and businesses that pay the lion’s share of taxes are not going to stick around and pay property taxes to a city that wants to dismantle police services. That will cut into lots of things, but probably not the private security contract for the mayor and council members... oh no not that

And- like all progressive city councils, they love themselves some regulations... like taxes on cigarettes ... they’ll want the police to enforce all those petty rules. And remember- Eric Garner isn’t going to accept a ticket from a meter maid or a social worker


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Meh. The teamsters already said they ain't driving to cities that defund the police. Me thinks the cities that actually go that retard will have other issues at hand sooner than dealing with the ones you outlined.

[AZGrizFan]

Here’s a question someone should ask the Minneapolis city council

(not that I care.. towns like that may as well be on the moon where I am concerned)

But what is their plan for dealing with insurance companies that will drop coverage on all things like homes and cars when there are no police to protect property?

What is their plan for dealing with banks that will not finance cars, homes, or businesses in the city?

What is their plan for having no ISO rating?

What is their plan for having zero ability to use the bond structure for capital improvements/infrastructure?

In reality, their unwillingness to do those necessary things over the years to fix their police department are a de facto defunding of ALL of their city government and its departments, because those people and businesses that pay the lion’s share of taxes are not going to stick around and pay property taxes to a city that wants to dismantle police services. That will cut into lots of things, but probably not the private security contract for the mayor and council members... oh no not that

And- like all progressive city councils, they love themselves some regulations... like taxes on cigarettes ... they’ll want the police to enforce all those petty rules. And remember- Eric Garner isn’t going to accept a ticket from a meter maid or a social worker


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Meh. The teamsters already said they ain't driving to cities that defund the police. Me thinks the cities that actually go that retard will have other issues at hand sooner than dealing with the ones you outlined.

Lol. Insurance companies will move a lot faster than Teamsters.

[CID1990]

Meh. The teamsters already said they ain't driving to cities that defund the police. Me thinks the cities that actually go that retard will have other issues at hand sooner than dealing with the ones you outlined.

Lol. Insurance companies will move a lot faster than Teamsters.

Hah hah no shit

I can list about 10,000 things that move faster than those union pogues


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[Ivytalk]

Lol. Insurance companies will move a lot faster than Teamsters.

Hah hah no shit

I can list about 10,000 things that move faster than those union pogues


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WTF is a pogue?

[CID1990]

Hah hah no shit

I can list about 10,000 things that move faster than those union pogues


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WTF is a pogue?

A REMF.


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[Ivytalk]

WTF is a pogue?

A REMF.


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Had to look it up on Urban Dictionary but I get it.

[Winterborn]

A REMF.


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Had to look it up on Urban Dictionary but I get it.

Another one for your personal dictionary Ivy.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baizuo

baizuo
Baizuo (pronounced "bye-tswaw) is a Chinese epithet meaning naive western educated person who advocates for peace and equality only to satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority. A baizuo only cares about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment while being obsessed with political correctness to the extent that they import backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism.

[Ivytalk]

Had to look it up on Urban Dictionary but I get it.

Another one for your personal dictionary Ivy.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baizuo

baizuo
Baizuo (pronounced "bye-tswaw) is a Chinese epithet meaning naive western educated person who advocates for peace and equality only to satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority. A baizuo only cares about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment while being obsessed with political correctness to the extent that they import backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism.

In other words, Twirpz is a baizuo!

[CID1990]

Asians have lots of endearing words for foreigners and Africans.

And on a lighter note, there’s this:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... -to-n-word


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[AZGrizFan]

WTF is a pogue?

A REMF.


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[UNI88]

WTF is a pogue?

A REMF.

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And here I thought it was a member of a Celtic punk band ...

[∞∞∞]

Days after Austreberto Gonzalez anonymously reported a fellow Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy to internal affairs for assaulting a colleague behind the parking lot of the Compton station, a text popped up on his phone.

It was a photo of graffiti scrawled on a dial pad at the station’s parking lot entrance: “ART IS A RAT,” it read.

It was one of the first instances of retaliation that continued for months, exacted by the Executioners, a band of deputies with matching tattoos that wields vast power at the Compton station, he alleged in a claim filed against Los Angeles County. The claim says the group — sporting tattoos of a skull with Nazi imagery and an AK-47 — celebrates deputy shootings and the induction of new members with “inking parties...”

...Inspector General Max Huntsman said Thursday that he is “aware of no implementation whatsoever” of the policy and that his office can’t effectively investigate the secret societies “because of the obstruction of the Sheriff’s Department.” He said the criminal investigation of Banditos members who were allegedly involved in an off-duty beating in 2018 amounted to a “cover-up,” noting that more than 20 deputies were not required to give statements.

Gonzalez’s claim alleges the Compton station clique numbers about 20 deputies, while 20 more are prospects or associates. Many work at night, the claim says, and communicate through WhatsApp. Black and female deputies are not allowed in the clique, the claim says.

“Nearly all the CPT Deputies who have been involved in high-profile shootings and out-of-policy beatings at CPT in recent years have been ‘inked’ members of The Executioners,” the claim alleges. “‘Inking’ refers to the act of each newly made member of The Executioners receiving a matching tattoo indicating membership in the organization. Members become inked as ‘Executioners’ after executing members of the public, or otherwise committing acts of violence in furtherance of the gang.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ecutioners

[89Hen]

Yikes, sounds like a really bad team brown group.

Eugene Contraras
Thomas Banuelos
Miguel Vega
Chris Hernandez
Samuel Aldama
Jaime Juarez

Glad it wasn't a bunch of white cops. But I'm glad you bolded the part about no black deputies allowed. I'm sure you did that for fun.

[CID1990]

Compton and Rampart have been out of control for years.

I had a buddy who was in Iraq with me who resigned from LAPD because couldn’t get reassigned out of Rampart and there was really nobody he could grieve the crooked pool that was being played there.

Yet another union fortified PD with years of social justice reforms.. showing up worse than they started out


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[GannonFan]

That's the question, how do we stop police forces from becoming this way (or in the same breath how do we stop communities from descending into the type of chaos that hardens cops to be this way or in CID's case drives out potentially good cops who don't want to be mired in these settings)? It's almost never been about race - police forces have been getting less and less white over the decades but the problem still persists with cops and poverty-stricken neighborhoods. The law enforcement part of it is just a symptom, an outcome, the problem is how places get like this in the first place.

[CID1990]

That's the question, how do we stop police forces from becoming this way (or in the same breath how do we stop communities from descending into the type of chaos that hardens cops to be this way or in CID's case drives out potentially good cops who don't want to be mired in these settings)? It's almost never been about race - police forces have been getting less and less white over the decades but the problem still persists with cops and poverty-stricken neighborhoods. The law enforcement part of it is just a symptom, an outcome, the problem is how places get like this in the first place.

With police?

Simple - but it depends on where you are... up north and out west, police are protected by strong unions and collectively bargained contracts that make it very hard to fire cops.

Down south you can fire guys over the radio if you want. But because pay is so dismal and employment protections are lax (cops get fired for carrying out chiefs’ and mayors’ policies that go wrong) it is difficult to find high quality recruits. So you wind up taking guys you might not otherwise hire if you had a continually refreshed stack of applications.

But ultimately, it is leadership that is to blame. I hear a lot of BS about how good cops who don’t say anything about bad cops are also bad cops. Well that is just ignorance talking. It tars whole departments when the only other cops who are privy to what one cop is doing are 2-3 guys in one squad. I worked on a department of 400 and at any one time I was only aware of what my own 3-4 guys were doing.

But the ones who DO know are chiefs of police. They see the patterns of IA complaints coming in. They know who is constantly filling out use of force reports for routine nuisance calls or traffic stops. They see this and they either can’t be bothered or they overlook those things because those same cops produce arrest numbers that they can point to when they are asked about crime rates, etc.

So in many cases, toxic police cultures are cultivated by police leadership, as well as city/county councils and mayors. And this is also why you will see some police departments that are squeaky clean, and then right next door you’ll see one that is out of control. A really good example of this was Charleston PD vs North Charleston PD (Dennis Slager’s department).

Back in my day, if you generated a bunch of use of force reports or IA complaints, Chief Greenberg would call you into his office (or meet you out on the street) and rip you a new asshole. Then he’d either transfer you (to foot patrol or the desk) and sometimes fire you outright. Everybody was afraid of him and that kept pretty much everybody in line, supervisors attentive, and commanders proactive in HR matters. Greenberg had the advantage of not having to deal with contract employment. He could send you to ID or the desk with his pen. Many union contracts call that “punitive transfers” and they are specifically forbidden in employment contracts. But city/county councils as well as mayors and city mgrs are to blame for this. They have no incentive to take a hard line with public service unions because they are not bargaining with their own money. And in union states 9 times out of 10 they are Democrats taking FOP or PBA money. AND... as long as they aren’t blamed for allowing the retention of bad cops- through their own actions- then nothing will change. Because their constituents are ignorant and easily led to believe that shit policing is a police problem instead of a leadership problem.

So standby because it is just a matter of time before another guy who should have been fired long ago kills a black person (they kill white people too, BTW but you know...) and then the whole country goes berserk again and All Cops Are Bitches blah blah blah


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[BDKJMU]

Here’s a question someone should ask the Minneapolis city council

(not that I care.. towns like that may as well be on the moon where I am concerned)

But what is their plan for dealing with insurance companies that will drop coverage on all things like homes and cars when there are no police to protect property?

What is their plan for dealing with banks that will not finance cars, homes, or businesses in the city?

What is their plan for having no ISO rating?

What is their plan for having zero ability to use the bond structure for capital improvements/infrastructure?

In reality, their unwillingness to do those necessary things over the years to fix their police department are a de facto defunding of ALL of their city government and its departments, because those people and businesses that pay the lion’s share of taxes are not going to stick around and pay property taxes to a city that wants to dismantle police services. That will cut into lots of things, but probably not the private security contract for the mayor and council members... oh no not that

And- like all progressive city councils, they love themselves some regulations... like taxes on cigarettes ... they’ll want the police to enforce all those petty rules. And remember- Eric Garner isn’t going to accept a ticket from a meter maid or a social worker


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Meh. The teamsters already said they ain't driving to cities that defund the police. Me thinks the cities that actually go that retard will have other issues at hand sooner than dealing with the ones you outlined.

1st trucking company of likely many:

"Our first priority is to support our drivers and their safety when they are on the road,”...

Kucharski said that defunding the police is a bad idea because drivers carry valuable cargo on the road for weeks.

“Everybody wants to steal this,” Kucharski said.

A soon-to-be-released survey of 258 police departments nationwide shows almost half have had their budgets cut amid calls for police to be defunded despite increases in gun violence and otherwise violent crime in some parts of the country, according to USA Today....

...Kucharski said that his company is also avoiding states pushing to defund the police because his insurance coverage is prone to dissolve.

“Another issue that I am seeing in the future is I have cargo insurance, liability insurance, fiscal damage insurance, and I am very curious how when I renew my contracts at the end of the year, if there is going to be language -- if I am going to even have coverage going into these places,” Kucharski said.

“Right now I have coverage going all over domestically. You have to get special coverage for Canada or Mexico or you might have to buy special riders for this on top of everything.”....."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/tru ... und-police

Add on top of that businesses that refuse to do business with cities that defund the police, because they won't send their employees there; tourists that refuse to come to cities that defund the police, etc, etc...

[AZGrizFan]

Meh. The teamsters already said they ain't driving to cities that defund the police. Me thinks the cities that actually go that retard will have other issues at hand sooner than dealing with the ones you outlined.

1st trucking company of likely many:

"Our first priority is to support our drivers and their safety when they are on the road,”...

Kucharski said that defunding the police is a bad idea because drivers carry valuable cargo on the road for weeks.

“Everybody wants to steal this,” Kucharski said.

A soon-to-be-released survey of 258 police departments nationwide shows almost half have had their budgets cut amid calls for police to be defunded despite increases in gun violence and otherwise violent crime in some parts of the country, according to USA Today....

...Kucharski said that his company is also avoiding states pushing to defund the police because his insurance coverage is prone to dissolve.

“Another issue that I am seeing in the future is I have cargo insurance, liability insurance, fiscal damage insurance, and I am very curious how when I renew my contracts at the end of the year, if there is going to be language -- if I am going to even have coverage going into these places,” Kucharski said.

“Right now I have coverage going all over domestically. You have to get special coverage for Canada or Mexico or you might have to buy special riders for this on top of everything.”....."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/tru ... und-police

Add on top of that businesses that refuse to do business with cities that defund the police, because they won't send their employees there; tourists that refuse to come to cities that defund the police, etc, etc...

Well, with all these developments pretty soon Illan Omar will have her wish and MSP WILL look just like Mogadishu.

[Ibanez]

Days after Austreberto Gonzalez anonymously reported a fellow Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy to internal affairs for assaulting a colleague behind the parking lot of the Compton station, a text popped up on his phone.

It was a photo of graffiti scrawled on a dial pad at the station’s parking lot entrance: “ART IS A RAT,” it read.

It was one of the first instances of retaliation that continued for months, exacted by the Executioners, a band of deputies with matching tattoos that wields vast power at the Compton station, he alleged in a claim filed against Los Angeles County. The claim says the group — sporting tattoos of a skull with Nazi imagery and an AK-47 — celebrates deputy shootings and the induction of new members with “inking parties...”

...Inspector General Max Huntsman said Thursday that he is “aware of no implementation whatsoever” of the policy and that his office can’t effectively investigate the secret societies “because of the obstruction of the Sheriff’s Department.” He said the criminal investigation of Banditos members who were allegedly involved in an off-duty beating in 2018 amounted to a “cover-up,” noting that more than 20 deputies were not required to give statements.

Gonzalez’s claim alleges the Compton station clique numbers about 20 deputies, while 20 more are prospects or associates. Many work at night, the claim says, and communicate through WhatsApp. Black and female deputies are not allowed in the clique, the claim says.

“Nearly all the CPT Deputies who have been involved in high-profile shootings and out-of-policy beatings at CPT in recent years have been ‘inked’ members of The Executioners,” the claim alleges. “‘Inking’ refers to the act of each newly made member of The Executioners receiving a matching tattoo indicating membership in the organization. Members become inked as ‘Executioners’ after executing members of the public, or otherwise committing acts of violence in furtherance of the gang.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ecutioners

If these were white cops, that would've been the lead sentence. I hope Karma gets these punks.

[houndawg]

That's the question, how do we stop police forces from becoming this way (or in the same breath how do we stop communities from descending into the type of chaos that hardens cops to be this way or in CID's case drives out potentially good cops who don't want to be mired in these settings)? It's almost never been about race - police forces have been getting less and less white over the decades but the problem still persists with cops and poverty-stricken neighborhoods. The law enforcement part of it is just a symptom, an outcome, the problem is how places get like this in the first place.

Cop: "Do you know why I'm writing this ticket?"

Sarah Silverman: "Because you got all "C"s in high school?"




I just love Sarah Silverman