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[Ibanez]

So mail-in voting on a wide scale can be problematic? Sounds reasonable. Why not combine mail-in voting with early voting? Many states (especially red ones) already do early voting. If you can't get to the voting place 2 weeks before the election or bother yourself to get an absentee ballot then you shouldn't be voting anyway.

I honestly do not understand how we can have such bad voter rolls. We know where people live. When they move, we usually know where the mail is forwarded, their new ID has an address, etc... It's a multi-prong approach. Require an ID to vote (you already need an ID for so many other things that if you're 18+ w/o an ID then you've got bigger problems). It won't prevent 100% but it might help.

I think Missouri requires mail-in ballots to be notarized. That seems harder than going to a poll.

I'm all for increased number of voting days at polling locations. Hell, they have everything set up. Might as well extend it to 3, 4, 5 days, whatever. Include a Saturday in the mix. Maybe two. Sat, Tue, Thur, Sat. I don't know. Something other than just one day. At least that can help alleviate the crush of people at the polls. Maybe that can reduce the number of polling stations as well, to eliminate antiquated systems that produce hanging clenzes.

All very good points.

[Baldy]

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/h ... s/2414171/

Hundreds of Mail-In Votes Already Set Aside Due to Voter Fraud Claims in Paterson

So mail-in voting on a wide scale can be problematic? Sounds reasonable. Why not combine mail-in voting with early voting? Many states (especially red ones) already do early voting. If you can't get to the voting place 2 weeks before the election or bother yourself to get an absentee ballot then you shouldn't be voting anyway.

Then, according to Stacey Abrams, you are a racist white supremacist vote suppressor.

I honestly do not understand how we can have such bad voter rolls. We know where people live. When they move, we usually know where the mail is forwarded, their new ID has an address, etc... It's a multi-prong approach. Require an ID to vote (you already need an ID for so many other things that if you're 18+ w/o an ID then you've got bigger problems). It won't prevent 100% but it might help.

Again, maintaining an accurate, valid, up-to-date voter registration database is racist. To comply with Obama era mandates, Georgia put in very reasonable guidelines and updated it's voter registration database by purging 100's of thousands of out of date records. Thanks to Stacey Abrams and the Donk Party, Brian Kemp made the voter suppression hall of fame.

Voter rolls are so fucked up in most states is because that's how the Donks want it.

[Ibanez]

So mail-in voting on a wide scale can be problematic? Sounds reasonable. Why not combine mail-in voting with early voting? Many states (especially red ones) already do early voting. If you can't get to the voting place 2 weeks before the election or bother yourself to get an absentee ballot then you shouldn't be voting anyway.

Then, according to Stacey Abrams, you are a racist white supremacist vote suppressor.

I honestly do not understand how we can have such bad voter rolls. We know where people live. When they move, we usually know where the mail is forwarded, their new ID has an address, etc... It's a multi-prong approach. Require an ID to vote (you already need an ID for so many other things that if you're 18+ w/o an ID then you've got bigger problems). It won't prevent 100% but it might help.

Again, maintaining an accurate, valid, up-to-date voter registration database is racist. To comply with Obama era mandates, Georgia put in very reasonable guidelines and updated it's voter registration database by purging 100's of thousands of out of date records. Thanks to Stacey Abrams and the Donk Party, Brian Kemp made the voter suppression hall of fame.

Voter rolls are so fucked up in most states is because that's how the Donks want it.

Don't get me started on Stacey - she's awful.

[BDKJMU]

Sending ballots out in mass to every voter listed on local voter rolls, including those who didn’t ask for them, have no intention of voting, whether or not they’re eligible to vote, whether they still live at the address on file, whether they’re still alive, etc, etc)

And requesting an absentee ballot because you intend to vote, and plan on being out of town on election day

Are 2 completely different things. Saying its hypocritical is being ignorant of that fact.

From what I've read, absentee ballots must be requested. I'm aware of the fraud issue - it's always a legit concern. However, contrary to what Trump has claimed and lied about, we've seen that election fraud isn't a common occurrence. In fact, the most recent case that I can recall involves a North Carolina Republican. We're still in the middle of a pandemic, regardless of your feelings against science, you SHOULD want to do everything you can to promote the public health and safeguard our vulnerable populations.

According to our Government, the use of mail in voting and early voting is increasing. In fact, 16 states have more than 50% of all ballots cast being from early voting, mail in and absentee - and heads up many of them are Red States. Absentee and mail- in primarily benefits the elderly, disabled and military. Opening up to more people who want to protect their health shouldn't even be a discussion. However, here we are b/c Republicans have made it a question of not " How do we do this safely and protect our citizens" but rather, " The Dems want everyone to have access so they can steal the election." Typical fear mongering.




So what's the problem? Trump has made something out of nothing and the Republican base has fallen for it. The ONLY reason you'd be afraid of by allowing people to have wider access to being able to vote is that you believe it'll hurt your choice. You don't care about the integrity of the election - just that your guy wins.

WRONG. You basically answered the question why I don’t want mail in voting:

So mail-in voting on a wide scale can be problematic? Sounds reasonable. Why not combine mail-in voting with early voting? Many states (especially red ones) already do early voting. If you can't get to the voting place 2 weeks before the election or bother yourself to get an absentee ballot then you shouldn't be voting anyway.

I honestly do not understand how we can have such bad voter rolls. We know where people live. When they move, we usually know where the mail is forwarded, their new ID has an address, etc... It's a multi-prong approach. Require an ID to vote (you already need an ID for so many other things that if you're 18+ w/o an ID then you've got bigger problems). It won't prevent 100% but it might help.

[BDKJMU]

So mail-in voting on a wide scale can be problematic? Sounds reasonable. Why not combine mail-in voting with early voting? Many states (especially red ones) already do early voting. If you can't get to the voting place 2 weeks before the election or bother yourself to get an absentee ballot then you shouldn't be voting anyway.

I honestly do not understand how we can have such bad voter rolls. We know where people live. When they move, we usually know where the mail is forwarded, their new ID has an address, etc... It's a multi-prong approach. Require an ID to vote (you already need an ID for so many other things that if you're 18+ w/o an ID then you've got bigger problems). It won't prevent 100% but it might help.

I know when me and the wife moved, maybe 20 years ago now, she was still on the voter rolls in 3 different locations - in the city where she was before we moved in together, at the apartment where we just moved out of, and then in the township where we had just moved to. Technically speaking, she could've voted in 3 different locations that day and no one would've noticed.

It is amazing how screwed up the voter rolls are and that we apparently have little to no way to correct them. I don't think we're really equipped yet for mass mail in voting - between the mail harvesting that went on in California in 2018, to the outright fraud that the GOP guy tried in North Carolina, there's just way too many loopholes in that system. The worst thing to do is to create a system that people have less faith in than compared to the current one - if we can't trust election results then we're screwed.

I agree, that the solution has to be having voting open for multiple days. If you have it opened for 2 weeks and people still can't get there to vote then it's on the voter, not the system. The voter has to take some level of initiative to vote, and showing up once over a 2 week period should suffice. I'm in favor of ID to vote, but I wouldn't get hung up on that.

I do think one of the bigger problems we have is with manpower - the younger generations just don't volunteer for civic duties like manning the polling stations. That's why you have them staffed, sparsely most of the time, with mainly older people. Rarely do you see a polling worker under the age of 50. Granted, it's tough to volunteer when you also have to work, but volunteering across everything (youth sports, food pantries, polling places, etc) is way down, so it's not just one thing. That's an obstacle to more time to vote - who's going to staff the polling places over a two week period?

Exactly. In the the past I was registered to vote in VA and TX. And then TX and PA. That happens with almost everyone who moves a lot.

160 million ish registered votered.
-How many millions of people would get sent multiple ballots because they were registered in multiple locations?
-How many dead people would be mailed ballots?
-How many non USC would be maied ballots (here legally or illegally.
-How many prior felons would be mailed ballots?
-How many tens of millions of people who had no intention of voting would be mailed ballots?
Talk about the opportunity for ballot harvesting..

If people want to vote by mail they can. Its called get off your arse and request an absentee ballot. I believe that can be done online, so you only have to mail in the ballot.

I don’t have a problem if allowed voting over a couple of days, including a weekend day.

[BDKJMU]

Next thing you know you’ll have clowns wanting to vote online because going to the polls or requesting an absentee ballot & mailing a ballot in is too much hassle. The younger generation is just too lazy to do anything that can’t be done at the click if a button.

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Would be funny if he had actually seen it. He was informed by the head of NASCAR. Another person brainwashed by the mainstream media.

[Baldy]

A monument paid for in its entirety by emancipated slaves.

[Ibanez]

From what I've read, absentee ballots must be requested. I'm aware of the fraud issue - it's always a legit concern. However, contrary to what Trump has claimed and lied about, we've seen that election fraud isn't a common occurrence. In fact, the most recent case that I can recall involves a North Carolina Republican. We're still in the middle of a pandemic, regardless of your feelings against science, you SHOULD want to do everything you can to promote the public health and safeguard our vulnerable populations.

According to our Government, the use of mail in voting and early voting is increasing. In fact, 16 states have more than 50% of all ballots cast being from early voting, mail in and absentee - and heads up many of them are Red States. Absentee and mail- in primarily benefits the elderly, disabled and military. Opening up to more people who want to protect their health shouldn't even be a discussion. However, here we are b/c Republicans have made it a question of not " How do we do this safely and protect our citizens" but rather, " The Dems want everyone to have access so they can steal the election." Typical fear mongering.




So what's the problem? Trump has made something out of nothing and the Republican base has fallen for it. The ONLY reason you'd be afraid of by allowing people to have wider access to being able to vote is that you believe it'll hurt your choice. You don't care about the integrity of the election - just that your guy wins.

WRONG. You basically answered the question why I don’t want mail in voting:

So mail-in voting on a wide scale can be problematic? Sounds reasonable. Why not combine mail-in voting with early voting? Many states (especially red ones) already do early voting. If you can't get to the voting place 2 weeks before the election or bother yourself to get an absentee ballot then you shouldn't be voting anyway.

I honestly do not understand how we can have such bad voter rolls. We know where people live. When they move, we usually know where the mail is forwarded, their new ID has an address, etc... It's a multi-prong approach. Require an ID to vote (you already need an ID for so many other things that if you're 18+ w/o an ID then you've got bigger problems). It won't prevent 100% but it might help.

In-person voting is equally problematic as we've seen over and over again. Are you against that as well?

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[BDKJMU]

WRONG. You basically answered the question why I don’t want mail in voting:

In-person voting is equally problematic as we've seen over and over again. Are you against that as well?

Yes, in person is problamatic, but it isn’t equally as problematic as mail in. Not even remotely close lol. In person/absentee aren’t going to automatically have ballots mailed to multiple addresses if they’ve recently moved. Dead people won’t be mailed ballots. Non USCs and felons who are wrongly on voter rolls aren’t going to be mailed ballots. They still (or someone in their place) would have to go to the polls. 10s of millions who don’t intend to vote won’t have ballots mailed to them. Less opportunity for ballot havesting with in person.

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Ironically, both have one white parent..

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Ironically, both have one white parent..

I've met Kaepernick when he played football at Nevada with one of my friends son. He was normal then now he's mentally ill. Most of the guys from that team can't stand him and wish he would get some professional help

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[HI54UNI]

Ironically, both have one white parent..

I've met Kaepernick when he played football at Nevada with one of my friends son. He was normal then now he's mentally ill. Most of the guys from that team can't stand him and wish he would get some professional help

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Bad pussy will do that to you.

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I've met Kaepernick when he played football at Nevada with one of my friends son. He was normal then now he's mentally ill. Most of the guys from that team can't stand him and wish he would get some professional help

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Bad pussy will do that to you.

Yep that's what they say about her

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