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How fucking retarded do you ha e to be to think a country can legislate a group of people out of povery?

I mean you even admitted "every country in the world" has the same problem. So maybe it's just the way its always going to be because certain people won't change and they choose to be victims.

Whatever, I'm glad I don't need to deal with any of this made up bullshit the left is selling today.

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So based on the lack of intelligent responses, I guess lefties simply can’t explain the conundrum and it doesn’t make any sense to them either. That’s what I figured.
Denying there is a problem doesn't fix the problem. It just ignores it. Don't be an Alphagriz, you aren't a piece of shit like he is. Police in this country are a fucking problem. Minorities just experience it more.

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Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:03 pm
That Monopoly analogy is the reason for the social/cultural issues.

Take almost any place in the world: poverty and violence are intertwined no matter the race.

The problem is that we systemically kept blacks in poverty for centuries and still keep them in poverty through economic and educational inequalities (in addition to a racist criminal justice system).

The solution has to come from people like us who can vote to distribute wealth more fairly because in our system: money is power. Due to the Monopoly analogy, the black community has little power. That's how it ties into your question and why Black Lives Matter.
Those economic and education inequalities may disproportionally impact blacks but they don't apply to just blacks; latinos, whites and others are also adversely impacted.

I support efforts to improve education for all but we need to leave it to the states come up with solutions. Every time the federal government gets involved they fvck it up and make the situation worse.

The focus needs to be on equal opportunity not the socialist goal of equal outcomes.

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UNI88 wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:32 pm
∞∞∞ wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:03 pm
That Monopoly analogy is the reason for the social/cultural issues.

Take almost any place in the world: poverty and violence are intertwined no matter the race.

The problem is that we systemically kept blacks in poverty for centuries and still keep them in poverty through economic and educational inequalities (in addition to a racist criminal justice system).

The solution has to come from people like us who can vote to distribute wealth more fairly because in our system: money is power. Due to the Monopoly analogy, the black community has little power. That's how it ties into your question and why Black Lives Matter.
Those economic and education inequalities may disproportionally impact blacks but they don't apply to just blacks; latinos, whites and others are also adversely impacted.

I support efforts to improve education for all but we need to leave it to the states come up with solutions. Every time the federal government gets involved they fvck it up and make the situation worse.

The focus needs to be on equal opportunity not the socialist goal of equal outcomes.
Fat fucking chance the teachers' unions will allow that.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:03 pm
That Monopoly analogy is the reason for the social/cultural issues.

Take almost any place in the world: poverty and violence are intertwined no matter the race.

The problem is that we systemically kept blacks in poverty for centuries and still keep them in poverty through economic and educational inequalities (in addition to a racist criminal justice system).

The solution has to come from people like us who can vote to distribute wealth more fairly because in our system: money is power. Due to the Monopoly analogy, the black community has little power. That's how it ties into your question and why Black Lives Matter.
January 1964 President Johnson declared an "unconditional war on poverty" in America. The American taxpayers have spent $22 Trillion dollars on this 'war', and look where we are today. $22 Trillion of America's wealth has been redistributed to this cause so far to date, so throwing money at the problem obviously isn't the answer.

Jim Crow laws died over 50 years ago, so this argument about "ongoing systemic racism" is a myth. Many of the answers to the problems are staring you directly in the face, but you and the others refuse to acknowledge them.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:39 pm
How fucking retarded do you ha e to be to think a country can legislate a group of people out of povery?

I mean you even admitted "every country in the world" has the same problem. So maybe it's just the way its always going to be because certain people won't change and they choose to be victims.

Whatever, I'm glad I don't need to deal with any of this made up bullshit the left is selling today.

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We’ve done it several times.

Somewhat recently we lifted a bunch of banks out poverty.

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Somewhat recently we lifted a bunch of banks out poverty.
More money is spent on welfare per year than the one time bank bailouts. The banks are healthy. The welfare recipients are mostly still in poverty.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:39 pm
How fucking retarded do you ha e to be to think a country can legislate a group of people out of povery?

I mean you even admitted "every country in the world" has the same problem. So maybe it's just the way its always going to be because certain people won't change and they choose to be victims.

Whatever, I'm glad I don't need to deal with any of this made up bullshit the left is selling today.

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:06 am
kalm wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:54 am

Somewhat recently we lifted a bunch of banks out poverty.
More money is spent on welfare per year than the one time bank bailouts. The banks are healthy. The welfare recipients are mostly still in poverty.
I was just refuting his point. Btw, if banks were healthy, why the stimulus?
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The way I understand the organization, it's not just unjustifiable white on black crime, but all unjustified crimes against minorities.

#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:13 am
The way I understand the organization, it's not just unjustifiable white on black crime, but all unjustified crimes against minorities.

#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
1. BLM gained their claim to fame in 2014 based in a lie, the ‘Hands Up Don’t Shoot’ false narrative out of the Ferguson incident.
2. You left out reparations and wealth distribution among other radical demands. The co-founder even admitted to being a trained Marxist.
https://m4bl.org/policy-platforms/
3. Had BLM rallies in 2015 & 2016 where there were chants calling for the killing of police officers. Shorly after one of those 2016 rallies there were 5 officers killed in Dallas amd 3 in Baton Rouge.
4. As I stated before, the BLMers focus on the handful of George Floyd’s every year, and ignore the 7k mas or menos black on black homicides every year because those don’t make for good headlines, riots and protests. All they are doing is creating Ferguson effects in cities all across thr country which will = MORE dead blacks.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:37 am
Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:13 am
The way I understand the organization, it's not just unjustifiable white on black crime, but all unjustified crimes against minorities.

#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
1. BLM gained their claim to fame in 2015 based in a lie, the ‘Hands Up Don’t Shoot’ false narrative out of the Ferguson incident.
2. You left out reparations and wealth distribution among other radical demands. The co-founder even admitted to being a trained Marxist.
https://m4bl.org/policy-platforms/
3. Had BLM rallies in 2015 & 2016 where there were chants calling for the killing of police officers. Shorly after one of those 2016 rallies there were 5 officers killed in Dallas amd 3 in Baton Rouge.
4. As I stated before, the BLMers focus on the handful of George Floyd’s every year, and ignore the 7k mas or menos black on black homicides every year because those don’t make for good headlines, riots and protests. All they are doing is creating Ferguson effects in cities all across thr country which will = MORE dead blacks.
I copied word for word from their web page, and didn't leave anything out, except what you added between the lines as you opinion.
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kalm wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:11 am
CAA Flagship wrote:
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More money is spent on welfare per year than the one time bank bailouts. The banks are healthy. The welfare recipients are mostly still in poverty.
I was just refuting his point. Btw, if banks were healthy, why the stimulus?
What?
The banks aren't getting the stimulus. They are the "brokers" of the government stimulus money to give to needy businesses. Banks have traditional lending rules that does not allow them to give loans in many of the COVID-related hardship cases. The government stimulus lending rules are much more relaxed.

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kalm wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:39 pm
How fucking retarded do you ha e to be to think a country can legislate a group of people out of povery?

I mean you even admitted "every country in the world" has the same problem. So maybe it's just the way its always going to be because certain people won't change and they choose to be victims.

Whatever, I'm glad I don't need to deal with any of this made up bullshit the left is selling today.

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We’ve done it several times.

Somewhat recently we lifted a bunch of banks out poverty.

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kalm wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:54 am

Somewhat recently we lifted a bunch of banks out poverty.
More money is spent on welfare per year than the one time bank bailouts. The banks are healthy. The welfare recipients are mostly still in poverty.
By choice usually theirs. They have to have cell phones tattoos and cigarettes. The essentials

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CAA Flagship wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:39 pm
How fucking retarded do you ha e to be to think a country can legislate a group of people out of povery?

I mean you even admitted "every country in the world" has the same problem. So maybe it's just the way its always going to be because certain people won't change and they choose to be victims.

Whatever, I'm glad I don't need to deal with any of this made up bullshit the left is selling today.

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It's Trip's main blind spot. He believes that everyone acts and reacts the same. It certainly would be great, but they don't. It's why we have laws and rules.
Yep and even with laws and rules (legislation) people still kill, murder babies and speed.

He's fucking clueless

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Gil Dobie wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:37 am
1. BLM gained their claim to fame in 2015 based in a lie, the ‘Hands Up Don’t Shoot’ false narrative out of the Ferguson incident.
2. You left out reparations and wealth distribution among other radical demands. The co-founder even admitted to being a trained Marxist.
https://m4bl.org/policy-platforms/
3. Had BLM rallies in 2015 & 2016 where there were chants calling for the killing of police officers. Shorly after one of those 2016 rallies there were 5 officers killed in Dallas amd 3 in Baton Rouge.
4. As I stated before, the BLMers focus on the handful of George Floyd’s every year, and ignore the 7k mas or menos black on black homicides every year because those don’t make for good headlines, riots and protests. All they are doing is creating Ferguson effects in cities all across thr country which will = MORE dead blacks.
I copied word for word from their web page, and didn't leave anything out, except what you added between the lines as you opinion.
Their web page like their mission statement is the biggest lie in America.

It's a hate group that leaders in this cou try are to afraid of to take on because they don't want to be called racist by the racists

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:33 am
CAA Flagship wrote:
More money is spent on welfare per year than the one time bank bailouts. The banks are healthy. The welfare recipients are mostly still in poverty.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:37 am
Gil Dobie wrote:
I copied word for word from their web page, and didn't leave anything out, except what you added between the lines as you opinion.
Their web page like their mission statement is the biggest lie in America.

It's a hate group that leaders in this cou try are to afraid of to take on because they don't want to be called racist by the racists

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:33 am
CAA Flagship wrote:
More money is spent on welfare per year than the one time bank bailouts. The banks are healthy. The welfare recipients are mostly still in poverty.
By choice usually theirs. They have to have cell phones tattoos and cigarettes. The essentials

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:24 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:37 am

1. BLM gained their claim to fame in 2015 based in a lie, the ‘Hands Up Don’t Shoot’ false narrative out of the Ferguson incident.
2. You left out reparations and wealth distribution among other radical demands. The co-founder even admitted to being a trained Marxist.
https://m4bl.org/policy-platforms/
3. Had BLM rallies in 2015 & 2016 where there were chants calling for the killing of police officers. Shorly after one of those 2016 rallies there were 5 officers killed in Dallas amd 3 in Baton Rouge.
4. As I stated before, the BLMers focus on the handful of George Floyd’s every year, and ignore the 7k mas or menos black on black homicides every year because those don’t make for good headlines, riots and protests. All they are doing is creating Ferguson effects in cities all across thr country which will = MORE dead blacks.
I copied word for word from their web page, and didn't leave anything out, except what you added between the lines as you opinion.
You didn’t copy word for word anything on their policy platform- that’s where the radicalness (yes my opinion) is.

-Not an opinion on their policy platform calling for wealth redistribution and reparations. Its in their policy platform.
-Not an opinion on how they gained national prominence after the 2014 Ferguson incident (I misspoke when said 2015). They were founded in 2013 after the Trayvon Martin/Zimmerman case, but according to their wiki page, gained national prominence in 2014 after the Ferguson incident. The DA’s report (democrat BTW) found after an extensive investigation the ‘Hands Up Don’t Shoot’ narrative was shown to be not true. Fact.
-Not an opinion on FBI stats (latest 2018) on the number of black on black homicides. Fact.

My opinions were their policy platforms being marxist, the rallies playing a part in the killings of police officers, and we’ll see a Ferguson effect across the country which will = more black deaths.
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kalm wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:04 am
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:33 am
By choice usually theirs. They have to have cell phones tattoos and cigarettes. The essentials

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:47 am
kalm wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:04 am


AT&T, Apple, Samsung, tattoo parlors, Amazon, porn hub, Phillip Morris, and convenience stores also need them to have cell phones.
A cell phone is not a need its a want. You could go your whole life without owning a cell phone and you wont die because of it.
I agree. Successful retail industries and sales aren’t a need either. They are a want. I could go my whole life living off the land, foraging, wearing skins, rubbing sticks together.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:22 am
Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:24 am


I copied word for word from their web page, and didn't leave anything out, except what you added between the lines as you opinion.
You didn’t copy word for word anything on their policy platform- that’s where the radicalness (yes my opinion) is.

-Not an opinion on their policy platform calling for wealth redistribution and reparations. Its in their policy platform.
-Not an opinion on how they gained national prominence after the 2014 Ferguson incident (I misspoke when said 2015). They were founded in 2013 after the Trayvon Martin/Zimmerman case, but according to their wiki page, gained national prominence in 2014 after the Ferguson incident. The DA’s report (democrat BTW) found after an extensive investigation the ‘Hands Up Don’t Shoot’ narrative was shown to be not true. Fact.
-Not an opinion on FBI stats (latest 2018) on the number of black on black homicides. Fact.

My opinions were their policy platforms being marxist, the rallies playing a part in the killings of police officers, and we’ll see a Ferguson effect across the country which will = more black deaths.
I didn't say anything about your link m4bl, I'm talking about blm.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:03 pm
That Monopoly analogy is the reason for the social/cultural issues.

Take almost any place in the world: poverty and violence are intertwined no matter the race.

The problem is that we systemically kept blacks in poverty for centuries and still keep them in poverty through economic and educational inequalities (in addition to a racist criminal justice system).

The solution has to come from people like us who can vote to distribute wealth more fairly because in our system: money is power. Due to the Monopoly analogy, the black community has little power. That's how it ties into your question and why Black Lives Matter.
That’s total BS. There are literally hundreds of institutions, government programs, educational benefits and regulations specifically designed to give blacks a leg up.

And NONE of that Monopoly video explains why BLM chooses to focus on the .1% and virtually ignores the 99.4%.
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