Coronavirus COVID-19

[89Hen]

We could have months ago if people took this seriously.

[AZGrizFan]

Make it illegal to collect rent, mortgages, or any other loans for the time being, with no interest being accumulated.

Yeah, fuck that stupid idea. I'm not JP Morgan Chase. I need my tenant to pay up. Why should I be penalized? I'm providing a home for someone. I need to be paid. I'm not a charity.

[SDHornet]

Containment doesn't mean it won't pop up again, just that when it does, we aren't blindly chasing after everyone else it might have infected without taking drastic measures and overwhelming the medical system(s).

Done iteratively, that's how you quell viruses.

We simply need to get to that point.

We could have months ago if people took this seriously.

And yet China and WHO didn't inform the world of the ability of the Chinese Flu to spread from human to human until late January. 5-6 weeks after they knew. So here we are...

BTW what plans were the Donks coming up with? Oh right, impeachment ideas.

[grizzaholic]

Trip, did you pay your rent/mortgage today? Just wondering.

Actually yes, I think my mortgage is set to withdraw on the first.

Why?

[dbackjon]

Containment doesn't mean it won't pop up again, just that when it does, we aren't blindly chasing after everyone else it might have infected without taking drastic measures and overwhelming the medical system(s).

Done iteratively, that's how you quell viruses.

We simply need to get to that point.

We could have months ago if people took this seriously.

bullshit. Maybe a few weeks. But "Months"? As late as 1/15 the WHO was still saying it couldn't be transmitted human-to-human. Trump closed the borders with China on 1/31 (much to the Donk apologists' chagrin, I might add)….so fuck this narrative that we could be "months" ahead of this...

It was already in the US by 1/31. WHO acknowledged human to human well before that.

I know you and the rest of the Cultists are in deep denial, but Trump fucked up royally (like he does with pretty much everything), but these are FACTS:

January 22: Trump on Coronavirus “We have it totally under control”!

January 24: Trump on Coronavirus “It will all work out well”!

January 30: Trump on Coronavirus “We have it very well under control, and I think its going to have a very good ending. So that I can assure you”!

February 2: Trump on Coronavirus “Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China, but we did shut it down!” No clue whatsoever of the severity of what’s coming.

February 10: On Fox News Trump says without evidence that the coronavirus "dies with the hotter weather” "You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat

February 24: Trump tweeted another baselessly claims: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA.”

February 25: Trump falsely claims : you may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re ALL getting better! Obviously he doesn’t care for those who died from it. (Like captured soldiers)

February 26: Trump wrongly says the coronavirus "is a flu"

February 26: Trump baselessly predicts the number of US cases is "going very substantially down" to "close to zero”

[dbackjon]

Containment doesn't mean it won't pop up again, just that when it does, we aren't blindly chasing after everyone else it might have infected without taking drastic measures and overwhelming the medical system(s).

Done iteratively, that's how you quell viruses.

We simply need to get to that point.

We could have months ago if people took this seriously.

And yet China and WHO didn't inform the world of the ability of the Chinese Flu to spread from human to human until late January. 5-6 weeks after they knew. So here we are...

BTW what plans were the Donks coming up with? Oh right, impeachment ideas.

So you are saying that the impeachment, which was justified, means that Trump couldn't handle more than one thing at once?

Meanwhile, he held a dozen MAGAt rallies, and went golfing another dozen times.

Face it, your Messiah is a disaster. You and the rest are just too stubborn to admit how much you fucked up supporting him.

[SDHornet]

And yet China and WHO didn't inform the world of the ability of the Chinese Flu to spread from human to human until late January. 5-6 weeks after they knew. So here we are...

BTW what plans were the Donks coming up with? Oh right, impeachment ideas.

So you are saying that the impeachment, which was justified, means that Trump couldn't handle more than one thing at once?

Meanwhile, he held a dozen MAGAt rallies, and went golfing another dozen times.

Face it, your Messiah is a disaster. You and the rest are just too stubborn to admit how much you fucked up supporting him.

Huh? I'm saying if the Chinese Flu was such a big concern, why did the the Donks not have their own plan to politicize in the msm? Oh right, they were more concerned with Orange Man Bad.

Trump could be handling this better, but it's far from the disaster people are claiming. Also this whole pandemic is China's fault, and that certainly shouldn't get lost in all the politicizing of this issue.

[CAA Flagship]

And yet China and WHO didn't inform the world of the ability of the Chinese Flu to spread from human to human until late January. 5-6 weeks after they knew. So here we are...

BTW what plans were the Donks coming up with? Oh right, impeachment ideas.

So you are saying that the impeachment, which was justified, means that Trump couldn't handle more than one thing at once?

Meanwhile, he held a dozen MAGAt rallies, and went golfing another dozen times.

Face it, your Messiah is a disaster. You and the rest are just too stubborn to admit how much you fucked up supporting him.

[bobbythekidd]

1. 200 US sailors aboard testing positive for Covid-19
2. En route to Guam
3. Requesting individual isolation for each person for 14 days
4. Guam is tiny and can't house all these sailors. Let alone feed them and provide individual housing of each
5. Some crew (10% will remain on board to sanitize the vessel) sacrificed.
6. This is a nuclear vessel so, further, some must be sacrificed to run and monitor the reactor
7. This scenario is the very definition of not practicing "social distancing". This is as close to nut to butt as you get without liking that kind of thing.
8. How many navies around the world are continuing to spread this
9. This is just one skipper throwing his career away. How many more don't have the balls?

Why not just stay at sea? It's a natural quarantine. Let the shit run it's course....not that complicated.

Not Everyone on the ship is like you in your stateroom. Us enlisted plebeians were relegated to mass berthing. It's a death penalty to them.

Careful AZ, your privilege is showing.

[∞∞∞]

Trump could be handling this better, but it's far from the disaster people are claiming. Also this whole pandemic is China's fault, and that certainly shouldn't get lost in all the politicizing of this issue.

Yes, it is China's fault. No one is forgetting, but that can be addressed at the national and the international stage after this is over.

And how is this anything short of a disaster? The world economy is on the brink of collapse, unemployment is quickly rising, people are dying left and right, the projection for US deaths is now at 100,000 to 200,000 people, the medical community is stressed and expected to break in many areas, and we've yet to contain a highly contagious virus.

Are there glimmers of hope? Yes, but this virus has been a complete disaster.

[AZGrizFan]

Why not just stay at sea? It's a natural quarantine. Let the shit run it's course....not that complicated.

Not Everyone on the ship is like you in your stateroom. Us enlisted plebeians were relegated to mass berthing. It's a death penalty to them.

Careful AZ, your privilege is showing.

I was enlisted for six years, Bobby. I know the drill.

Let the air wings go home...Isolate the 200 who are sick, social distance the rest on the ship with the extra space, and in three weeks it'll be a non-issue. They're a bunch of 20-somethings....it's not a "death penalty".

"Evacuating" the ship is a fucking joke. Did we evacuate ships in the 1700's because of scurvy? That captain should have his fucking command pulled.

[Ibanez]

Not Everyone on the ship is like you in your stateroom. Us enlisted plebeians were relegated to mass berthing. It's a death penalty to them.

Careful AZ, your privilege is showing.

I was enlisted for six years, Bobby. I know the drill.

Let the air wings go home...Isolate the 200 who are sick, social distance the rest on the ship with the extra space, and in three weeks it'll be a non-issue. They're a bunch of 20-somethings....it's not a "death penalty".

"Evacuating" the ship is a fucking joke. Did we evacuate ships in the 1700's because of scurvy? That captain should have his fucking command pulled.

Scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency. It isn't an infectious disease that is transmittable between humans.

[∞∞∞]

Yeah, fuck that stupid idea. I'm not JP Morgan Chase. I need my tenant to pay up. Why should I be penalized? I'm providing a home for someone. I need to be paid. I'm not a charity.

Got it, money over countrymen.

You find your life worth sacrificing in nonsensical wars against goat people who pose little threat to us, but you won't sacrifice a few bucks when the homeland and fellow Americans are in grave danger . Please continue convincing me how beautiful capitalism is.

[AZGrizFan]

I was enlisted for six years, Bobby. I know the drill.

Let the air wings go home...Isolate the 200 who are sick, social distance the rest on the ship with the extra space, and in three weeks it'll be a non-issue. They're a bunch of 20-somethings....it's not a "death penalty".

"Evacuating" the ship is a fucking joke. Did we evacuate ships in the 1700's because of scurvy? That captain should have his fucking command pulled.

Scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency. It isn't an infectious disease that is transmittable between humans.

They didn't know that then.

[bobbythekidd]

Not Everyone on the ship is like you in your stateroom. Us enlisted plebeians were relegated to mass berthing. It's a death penalty to them.

Careful AZ, your privilege is showing.

I was enlisted for six years, Bobby. I know the drill.

Let the air wings go home...Isolate the 200 who are sick, social distance the rest on the ship with the extra space, and in three weeks it'll be a non-issue. They're a bunch of 20-somethings....it's not a "death penalty".

"Evacuating" the ship is a fucking joke. Did we evacuate ships in the 1700's because of scurvy? That captain should have his fucking command pulled.

1. It's Bob dammit!
2. Like the idea of sending the air wings home but are they close enough to disembark? If not, how long before they are?
3. His career is fvcking DONE!

[AZGrizFan]

Got it, money over countrymen.

You find your life worth sacrificing in nonsensical wars against goat people who pose little threat to us, but you won't sacrifice a few bucks when this nation and fellow Americans are in genuinely grave danger. Please continue convincing me how beautiful capitalism is.

Here's the thing, Einstein. The bank is expecting ME to make MY payment....and even if I defer it, when the deferment ends, guess what? I have to bring the payment current IMMEDIATELY.

If my tenants have lost their jobs, I'm willing to talk. But otherwise, they can fucking pay just like everybody else who has the means.

Oh, and please tell me what war I've supported on this board in the last 15 years?

[∞∞∞]

Got it, money over countrymen.

You find your life worth sacrificing in nonsensical wars against goat people who pose little threat to us, but you won't sacrifice a few bucks when this nation and fellow Americans are in genuinely grave danger. Please continue convincing me how beautiful capitalism is.

Here's the thing, Einstein. The bank is expecting ME to make MY payment....and even if I defer it, when the deferment ends, guess what? I have to bring the payment current IMMEDIATELY.

If my tenants have lost their jobs, I'm willing to talk. But otherwise, they can fucking pay just like everybody else who has the means.

Oh, and please tell me what war I've supported on this board in the last 15 years?

Make it illegal to collect rent, mortgages, or any other loans for the time being, with no interest being accumulated.

[AZGrizFan]

I was enlisted for six years, Bobby. I know the drill.

Let the air wings go home...Isolate the 200 who are sick, social distance the rest on the ship with the extra space, and in three weeks it'll be a non-issue. They're a bunch of 20-somethings....it's not a "death penalty".

"Evacuating" the ship is a fucking joke. Did we evacuate ships in the 1700's because of scurvy? That captain should have his fucking command pulled.

1. It's Bob dammit!
2. Like the idea of sending the air wings home but are they close enough to disembark? If not, how long before they are?
3. His career is fvcking DONE!

They want to unload the whole ship in Guam. It's a long ways, but they could send the airwings home via Hawaii with up to 3 wing-mounted fuel drop tanks and tanker support from the AF out of Hawaii....that clears out the entire hangar bay, plus the living spaces occupied by the air wings.

[AZGrizFan]

Here's the thing, Einstein. The bank is expecting ME to make MY payment....and even if I defer it, when the deferment ends, guess what? I have to bring the payment current IMMEDIATELY.

If my tenants have lost their jobs, I'm willing to talk. But otherwise, they can fucking pay just like everybody else who has the means.

Oh, and please tell me what war I've supported on this board in the last 15 years?

Make it illegal to collect rent, mortgages, or any other loans for the time being, with no interest being accumulated.

So you want to bring down the entire banking system, is that it?

[89Hen]

That's swell Trip, but what about a person whose only income is rent received? I know folks who own rental properties free and clear and the rent they get is their income.

[∞∞∞]

That's swell Trip, but what about a person whose only income is rent received? I know folks who own rental properties free and clear and the rent they get is their income.

Enroll the entire population in the ACA for the time being without any out-of-pocket costs, and send out a monthly check to cover basic expenses for two or three months.

[Ibanez]

Scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency. It isn't an infectious disease that is transmittable between humans.

They didn't know that then.

They might not have understood if the disease could spread, but they knew what it was and how to treat it. That information has been around since before Christ. The cause was understood so much so that citrus would be planted on islands used as stop overs, quarantines or refueling. Fruits were the obvious go to, but the French used horse meat to remedy the issue. They obviously didn't have the benefit we have of knowing that green vegetables also contain enough levels of C to keep scurvy at bay.

[AZGrizFan]

They didn't know that then.

They might not have understood if the disease could spread, but they knew what it was and how to treat it. That information has been around since before Christ. The cause was understood so much so that citrus would be planted on islands used as stop overs, quarantines or refueling. Fruits were the obvious go to, but the French used horse meat to remedy the issue. They obviously didn't have the benefit we have of knowing that green vegetables also contain enough levels of C to keep scurvy at bay.

Some would disagree as to exactly when they knew how it was caused/prevented:

The first clear-cut descriptions of the disorder, however, appear in the records of the medieval Crusades. Later, toward the end of the 15th century, scurvy became the major cause of disability and mortality among sailors on long sea voyages. In 1753 Scottish naval surgeon James Lind showed that scurvy could be cured and prevented by ingestion of the juice of oranges and lemons. Soon citrus fruits became so common aboard ship that British sailors were referred to as “limeys.”

[Ibanez]

They might not have understood if the disease could spread, but they knew what it was and how to treat it. That information has been around since before Christ. The cause was understood so much so that citrus would be planted on islands used as stop overs, quarantines or refueling. Fruits were the obvious go to, but the French used horse meat to remedy the issue. They obviously didn't have the benefit we have of knowing that green vegetables also contain enough levels of C to keep scurvy at bay.

Some would disagree as to exactly when they knew how it was caused/prevented:

The first clear-cut descriptions of the disorder, however, appear in the records of the medieval Crusades. Later, toward the end of the 15th century, scurvy became the major cause of disability and mortality among sailors on long sea voyages. In 1753 Scottish naval surgeon James Lind showed that scurvy could be cured and prevented by ingestion of the juice of oranges and lemons. Soon citrus fruits became so common aboard ship that British sailors were referred to as “limeys.”

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/155758

Scurvy has been known since ancient Greek and Egyptian times. It is often associated with sailors in the 15th to 18th centuries, when long sea voyages made it hard to get a steady supply of fresh produce. Many died from the effects.

[∞∞∞]

So you want to bring down the entire banking system, is that it?

Temporarily suspending payments across the board (including for banks) wouldn't be the thing that brings them down.

And the answer to your question is yes, I would love that. But this isn't going to be downfall of the current banking system.