Coronavirus COVID-19

[93henfan]

Every country will get Coronavirus eventually, but China got it right off the bat.

I Shaun the Sheep (Wallace and Gromit, etc)!

[AshevilleApp]

I've said before that I honestly interpret polls whether they indicate what I wish is true or they indicate what I wish were not true. Now we have Trump doing better than he's done since February 2017 with respect to his job approval/disapproval. He's only down by 2 right now in the Real Clear Politics average of polls.

Particularly disturbing is that he is UP 2 in the poll, the ABC News/Washington Post poll, that I consider to be the Gold Standard.

I am just shaking my head. There is no question that there is an association between his job approval situation getting better and this COVID-19 episode. Yet it is blatantly obvious that he very publicly mishandled the response. Very obviously under estimated the threat. Downplayed it. Started off saying it was under control when it is now obvious that it was not. Only 15 cases and soon it'll be close to zero. Now we have the highest reported case total in the world.

Yet his approval rating goes up.

$1200 checks probably help.

[kalm]

I've said before that I honestly interpret polls whether they indicate what I wish is true or they indicate what I wish were not true. Now we have Trump doing better than he's done since February 2017 with respect to his job approval/disapproval. He's only down by 2 right now in the Real Clear Politics average of polls.

Particularly disturbing is that he is UP 2 in the poll, the ABC News/Washington Post poll, that I consider to be the Gold Standard.

I am just shaking my head. There is no question that there is an association between his job approval situation getting better and this COVID-19 episode. Yet it is blatantly obvious that he very publicly mishandled the response. Very obviously under estimated the threat. Downplayed it. Started off saying it was under control when it is now obvious that it was not. Only 15 cases and soon it'll be close to zero. Now we have the highest reported case total in the world.

Yet his approval rating goes up.

$1200 checks probably help.

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

[AshevilleApp]

$1200 checks probably help.

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

$1500 and a corporate bailout?

[Chizzang]

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

There is no such thing as a Republican that is not also a Socialist...
Libertarians are not Socialist but Republicans are absolutely socialist if we base it on behavior and not rhetoric



Prove me wrong

[CitadelGrad]

$1200 checks probably help.

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

Socialism is state ownership of the means of production.

Getting money from the government that was your money before it was the government's money is not socialism.

[UNI88]

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

Socialism is state ownership of the means of production.

Getting money from the government that was someone else's money before it was the government's money (or more likely is money yet to be collected from someone else) is not socialism it's welfare.

FYP

How much do Delta, United, American, etc. pay in federal taxes?

[AZGrizFan]

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

There is no such thing as a Republican that is not also a Socialist...
Libertarians are not Socialist but Republicans are absolutely socialist if we base it on behavior and not rhetoric



Prove me wrong

The “stiimulus package” is just one big wealth redistribution exercise.

[CAA Flagship]

There is no such thing as a Republican that is not also a Socialist...
Libertarians are not Socialist but Republicans are absolutely socialist if we base it on behavior and not rhetoric



Prove me wrong

The “stiimulus package” is just one big wealth redistribution exercise.

Don't go there. You will overwhelm JSO.

[Ivytalk]

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

There is no such thing as a Republican that is not also a Socialist...
Libertarians are not Socialist but Republicans are absolutely socialist if we base it on behavior and not rhetoric



Prove me wrong

The political and journalistic opprobrium being heaped on Amash and Massie in connection with the bailout bill suggests that the small-l libertarian movement in this country is vanishingly small. If there’s a crisis, guvmint will ride to the “rescue,” notwithstanding regulatory screwups like the FDA has proved to be.

[kalm]

How much does it cost to turn a Republican into a socialist?

Socialism is state ownership of the means of production.

Getting money from the government that was your money before it was the government's money is not socialism.

Very good.

[Chizzang]

Socialism is state ownership of the means of production.

Getting money from the government that was your money before it was the government's money is not socialism.

Very good.

Sure... but that's not the game we're playing
I get reminded how this game works every time I try to explain that China is NOT communist

[kalm]

Very good.

Sure... but that's not the game we're playing
I get reminded how this game works every time I try to explain that China is NOT communist

That’s kind of my point.

[Col Hogan]

Every country will get Coronavirus eventually, but China got it right off the bat.

[dbackjon]

Turkey's first reported case was March 9th. They are already over 7,000 cases

[Skjellyfetti]

This whole thing really highlights how screwed up our healthcare system is.

They divided Ohio into 8 hospital regions with a Coronavirus hospital in each.

If the Coronavirus hospital in your region is outside your insurance's network... you're royally fucked. Bankruptcy or chance it.

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/03/ ... twork.html

[CAA Flagship]

This whole thing really highlights how screwed up our healthcare system is.

They divided Ohio into 8 hospital regions with a Coronavirus hospital in each.

If the Coronavirus hospital in your region is outside your insurance's network... you're royally fucked. Bankruptcy or chance it.

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/03/ ... twork.html

What happens if you are hospitalized when traveling?

[Gil Dobie]

This whole thing really highlights how screwed up our healthcare system is.

They divided Ohio into 8 hospital regions with a Coronavirus hospital in each.

If the Coronavirus hospital in your region is outside your insurance's network... you're royally fucked. Bankruptcy or chance it.

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/03/ ... twork.html

What happens if you are hospitalized when traveling?

When my wife broke her ankle in Florida, there were plenty of places in network. We stayed in 2 parts of Florida that year and no problem with in-network care.

[Skjellyfetti]

What happens if you are hospitalized when traveling?

Hope you have good insurance with plenty of in network options.

Or just say "fuck it" and not tough it out or wait to get back home or risk a boatload of medical debt.

[BDKJMU]

This whole thing really highlights how screwed up our healthcare system is.

They divided Ohio into 8 hospital regions with a Coronavirus hospital in each.

If the Coronavirus hospital in your region is outside your insurance's network... you're royally fucked. Bankruptcy or chance it.

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/03/ ... twork.html

Don't be a drama queen. I bet you when its all said and done, people won't be charged for out of network, if the hospital they get sent to is out of network, due to the govt dictating the regions.

State officials decided to divide Ohio into eight geographic regions. They are requiring within each region the facilities -- which usually compete against each other -- work together in deciding which medical centers will be caring for coronavirus patients and which ones will care for other needs such as labor and delivery or radiology....

...Lt. Gov. Jon Husted said that so far, insurance companies have been accommodating to requests made by the state during the pandemic. The state has the ability to pursue health insurance companies in court if they are uncooperative, he said.

After all, we could have a single payer system like Italy, or Spain. How's that working out for them?

[kalm]

This whole thing really highlights how screwed up our healthcare system is.

They divided Ohio into 8 hospital regions with a Coronavirus hospital in each.

If the Coronavirus hospital in your region is outside your insurance's network... you're royally fucked. Bankruptcy or chance it.

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/03/ ... twork.html

Don't be a drama queen. I bet you when its all said and done, people won't be charged for out of network, if the hospital they get sent to is out of network, due to the govt dictating the regions.

State officials decided to divide Ohio into eight geographic regions. They are requiring within each region the facilities -- which usually compete against each other -- work together in deciding which medical centers will be caring for coronavirus patients and which ones will care for other needs such as labor and delivery or radiology....

...Lt. Gov. Jon Husted said that so far, insurance companies have been accommodating to requests made by the state during the pandemic. The state has the ability to pursue health insurance companies in court if they are uncooperative, he said.

After all, we could have a single payer system like Italy, or Spain. How's that working out for them?

How’s it working out in Albany, Georgia or Sun Valley, Idaho?

[Gil Dobie]

By the time this gets cranking, people will be happy if they have a bed for them and an ICU for serious patients.

[Gil Dobie]

1st Nodak to die, refused to use ventilator. Navy vet, didn't want to take it over another family that might need it.

[Baldy]

Don't be a drama queen. I bet you when its all said and done, people won't be charged for out of network, if the hospital they get sent to is out of network, due to the govt dictating the regions.

After all, we could have a single payer system like Italy, or Spain. How's that working out for them?

How’s it working out in Albany, Georgia or Sun Valley, Idaho?

They're able to move those patients to other hospitals, unlike in Spain or Italy.

[houndawg]

I've said before that I honestly interpret polls whether they indicate what I wish is true or they indicate what I wish were not true. Now we have Trump doing better than he's done since February 2017 with respect to his job approval/disapproval. He's only down by 2 right now in the Real Clear Politics average of polls.

Particularly disturbing is that he is UP 2 in the poll, the ABC News/Washington Post poll, that I consider to be the Gold Standard.

I am just shaking my head. There is no question that there is an association between his job approval situation getting better and this COVID-19 episode. Yet it is blatantly obvious that he very publicly mishandled the response. Very obviously under estimated the threat. Downplayed it. Started off saying it was under control when it is now obvious that it was not. Only 15 cases and soon it'll be close to zero. Now we have the highest reported case total in the world.

Yet his approval rating goes up.

$1200 checks probably help.

Chump change