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34 cases from one church in Arkansas, 6 hospitalized

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Just shows how easily it spreads, and why social distancing is so important
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Col Hogan wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:02 pm acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now
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Col Hogan wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:02 pm I’m not sure if anything like this has been posted, so it its a repeat, forgive me...


Subject: Best Explanation of the Coronavirus yet


This was written by an Associate Professor of Microbiology, Immunology & Parasitology LSU School of Medicine

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this with others who don’t understand. Otherwise, you
may have to use a hammer.

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... i.e.: genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system.

This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year. You get immunity two ways... through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals... the WHO ( World Health Org.) tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu).

But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity… the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens… we have a new contagion phase.

And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, that’s what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s going to be.

H1N1 was deadly.... but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long... but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people.

At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery.”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity), took off like a rocket. And this was because humans have no known immunity... doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus changed itself in such a way that it causes great damage to human lungs.

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is very slippery. And it’s a lung eater... And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain S, and strain L.... which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

And let me end by saying.... right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery... if it mutates again (and it will). who is to say what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now. Stay home as much as you can for now... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
Thanks Hogey. Very informative. :thumb:
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15 percent of the worlds ventilators are made by Medtronics here in Minnesota. 3M and Honeywell produce masks. Expects 2 million recorded cases by summer.
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kalm wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:26 pm
Col Hogan wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:02 pm I’m not sure if anything like this has been posted, so it its a repeat, forgive me...


Subject: Best Explanation of the Coronavirus yet


This was written by an Associate Professor of Microbiology, Immunology & Parasitology LSU School of Medicine

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this with others who don’t understand. Otherwise, you
may have to use a hammer.

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... i.e.: genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system.

This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year. You get immunity two ways... through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals... the WHO ( World Health Org.) tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu).

But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity… the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens… we have a new contagion phase.

And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, that’s what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s going to be.

H1N1 was deadly.... but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long... but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people.

At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery.”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity), took off like a rocket. And this was because humans have no known immunity... doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus changed itself in such a way that it causes great damage to human lungs.

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is very slippery. And it’s a lung eater... And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain S, and strain L.... which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

And let me end by saying.... right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery... if it mutates again (and it will). who is to say what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now. Stay home as much as you can for now... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
Thanks Hogey. Very informative. :thumb:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:33 am The flu is killing untold millions......... Run everyone it's the China virus! Image

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:42 pm
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We are in day 3 of self-isolation and it is really upsetting me to witness my wife standing at the living room window gazing aimlessly into space with tears running down her cheeks. It breaks my heart to see her like this. I have thought very hard about how I can cheer her up. I have even considered letting her in, but rules are rules.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:30 pm We are in day 3 of self-isolation and it is really upsetting me to witness my wife standing at the living room gazing aimlessly into space with tears running down her cheeks. It breaks my heart to see her like this. I have thought very hard about how I can cheer her up. I have even considered letting her in, but rules are rules.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:30 pm We are in day 3 of self-isolation and it is really upsetting me to witness my wife standing at the living room gazing aimlessly into space with tears running down her cheeks. It breaks my heart to see her like this. I have thought very hard about how I can cheer her up. I have even considered letting her in, but rules are rules.
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Recreational fishing closed in the State of Washington until at least 4/8.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:41 pm
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It looks like the Coronavirus is 10 times more deadly than the flu.
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Using your meme's numbers, divide deaths by infections and someone with coronavirus is about 10x more like to die than someone with the flu. Pretty straightforward.
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Colorado over 1,000 cases
That's 13 states
Two more likely to hit that tomorrow (TN and CT)
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Only 9 states under 100 cases - other than Hawaii and Nebraska, all sparsely populated states where "Social Distancing" is done as a way of life :)
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kalm wrote:Recreational fishing closed in the State of Washington until at least 4/8.
I don't get the purpose of that.

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Timberwolves star Karl Anthony Towns mother is in a medical induced coma from Covid-19.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:41 pm
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It looks like the Coronavirus is 10 times more deadly than the flu.
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The point, Alpha, is that the COVID-19 death rate derived from the meme you posted is about 4.3%. The flu death rate derived from the meme you posted is about 0.6%.

This disease is just emerging. We have no immunity to it. We have no vaccines. We have no treatments.

We are TRYING to stop it from spreading so that it does NOT end up causing cases in the billions. All indications are that it is even more contagious than the flu so that the risk of that happening is very real. If it DOES end up causing cases in the billions because we act like it is no big deal the impacts are going to be much worse than those of the typical seasonal flu.

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SunCoastBlueHen wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:01 pm
kalm wrote:Recreational fishing closed in the State of Washington until at least 4/8.
I don't get the purpose of that.

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Agreed. I am grateful that the Louisiana "stay home" order allows "outdoor activities." There is no reason to say that I can't go fishing by myself away from everybody. One thing I have considered is that I don't want to take the chance that my truck would break down on a relatively long road trip to fish. That means I am having to nix the annual pilgrimage to Lacassine Refuge. But there's no reason to say somebody can't go fishing per se.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:30 pm We are in day 3 of self-isolation and it is really upsetting me to witness my wife standing at the living room window gazing aimlessly into space with tears running down her cheeks. It breaks my heart to see her like this. I have thought very hard about how I can cheer her up. I have even considered letting her in, but rules are rules.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:02 pm
CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:30 pm We are in day 3 of self-isolation and it is really upsetting me to witness my wife standing at the living room window gazing aimlessly into space with tears running down her cheeks. It breaks my heart to see her like this. I have thought very hard about how I can cheer her up. I have even considered letting her in, but rules are rules.
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American ingenuity is alive and well...
Ford announced today that it is partnering with 3M in order to manufacture powered air-purifying respirators (PAPRs) as part of its response to the COVID-19 pandemic. These respirators are often called positive-pressure masks as they take contaminated air, pull it through a filter, then push it to the sealed mask using an air blower.

Ford will assist by providing components from their parts bin to build the respirators. The design released by Ford (top) will use 3M filters that draw air into a blower motor sourced from an F-150 and then pushed through a tube up to a mask that is sealed to the user's face.


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The point, Alpha, is that the COVID-19 death rate derived from the meme you posted is about 4.3%. The flu death rate derived from the meme you posted is about 0.6%.

This disease is just emerging. We have no immunity to it. We have no vaccines. We have no treatments.

We are TRYING to stop it from spreading so that it does NOT end up causing cases in the billions. All indications are that it is even more contagious than the flu so that the risk of that happening is very real. If it DOES end up causing cases in the billions because we act like it is no big deal the impacts are going to be much worse than those of the typical seasonal flu.

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