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Ivytalk wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:22 pm Was a free-for-all. The mods lost control. Sanders took some solid punches but kept yelling over people. Klobuchar may have been the least annoying participant. Biden was less demented than I expected. Bloomberg is a pygmy in more ways than one. Warren quoting the Bible was a hoot. Buttigieg was just a nerd who dodged more questions than anyone else. Steyer is a lightweight blowhard.
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:36 am
CID1990 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:20 am

Get back to us when Bernie opponents and the MSM start crying on air and proclaiming him the end of democracy, Clarence


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That’s why I anecdotally said “among MY Democratic friends”, Karen.

The MSM has been at it for months, simply more subtle than with Trump. But it’s ramped up the last week. I’ve probably seen a dozen or so hit pieces on social from major outlets in the past 24 hours.

He’ll have as hard a time with the Primary as he would in the general.

Lefties eating their own should make you happy.
So it's a "hit piece" to point out Bernie's policies, flaws & question how he will pay for them? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:18 am Bernie Derangement Syndrome is equaling TDS among some of my Democratic friends including a couple of political insiders.
I don't know.....I think it comes down to people wanting to keep their health insurance or not throwing the economy into the shitter. :nod:

Bernie has all these big ideas.....and no way to pay for them. :thumb: :thumbdown:
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:53 am
mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 am

I don't know.....I think it comes down to people wanting to keep their health insurance or not throwing the economy into the shitter. :nod:

Bernie has all these big ideas.....and no way to pay for them. :thumb: :thumbdown:
Dance little monkey, dance! :kisswink:
WTF? I know....I know......you're his biggest fan. :nod: :roll:
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mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:55 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:53 am

Dance little monkey, dance! :kisswink:
WTF? I know....I know......you're his biggest fan. :nod: :roll:
Nah! I’m the president of the kalmunist Fan Club. I voted more conservative than Trump last election.
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We should have known that the grand finale for Boomer politics would be a doozy. Boomers are totally self-absorbed scorched Earth egos that can't take "no" for answer....and freak out if people disagree with them. Can't wait till most of them are dead. :thumb:
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mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:10 am We should have known that the grand finale for Boomer politics would be a doozy. Boomers are totally self-absorbed scorched Earth egos that can't take "no" for answer....and freak out if people disagree with them. Can't wait till most of them are dead. :thumb:
A huge selling point for voting for Buttigieg - he's under the age of 70. :thumb:
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mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:10 am We should have known that the grand finale for Boomer politics would be a doozy. Boomers are totally self-absorbed scorched Earth egos that can't take "no" for answer....and freak out if people disagree with them. Can't wait till most of them are dead. :thumb:
How about if they just peacefully retire? You are so full of hate. :ohno:
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:11 am
mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:10 am We should have known that the grand finale for Boomer politics would be a doozy. Boomers are totally self-absorbed scorched Earth egos that can't take "no" for answer....and freak out if people disagree with them. Can't wait till most of them are dead. :thumb:
A huge selling point for voting for Buttigieg - he's under the age of 70. :thumb:
I don't know if Buttplug is the answer but we need to get back to candidates in their 40s & 50s.....people with a bit of a different viewpoint than what we are getting now from both Republicans and Democrats. What is it with Americans wanting people that are nearing 80 years old to be leading our country? :roll: :ohno:
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:20 am
mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:10 am We should have known that the grand finale for Boomer politics would be a doozy. Boomers are totally self-absorbed scorched Earth egos that can't take "no" for answer....and freak out if people disagree with them. Can't wait till most of them are dead. :thumb:
How about if they just peacefully retire? You are so full of hate. :ohno:
Not full of hate.....just tired of Boomers sucking the Earth dry. :nod: :thumb:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:12 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:06 am Pete isn’t a loud mouth, old stuttering socialist or has been.
Pete's a shill for corporate America. And there's no bigger group of real socialists in this country than corporations.

Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:32 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:12 am
Pete's a shill for corporate America. And there's no bigger group of real socialists in this country than corporations.

Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
The point is.....he's a "fan". :roll: :thumbdown: People that are "fans" of politicians need to get a life. :nod:
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mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:38 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:32 am

:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
The point is.....he's a "fan". :roll: :thumbdown: People that are "fans" of politicians need to get a life. :nod:
:lol: Trip is a shill for socialists.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:32 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:12 am
Pete's a shill for corporate America. And there's no bigger group of real socialists in this country than corporations.

Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
I think his point is that Pete is a shill. He may be a shill amongst other shills but he’s achieving master shill level status. The dude literally says nothing. It’s a lot easier to not put your policy balls on the table and sit back taking pot shots at those who do.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:32 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:12 am
Pete's a shill for corporate America. And there's no bigger group of real socialists in this country than corporations.

Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
Yes, he is a shill. Biggest one out there, with nothing to actually say.

"Moderates" have completely lost America, and deservedly so. You want to talk extreme? Moderates have created an extreme system where prisons are privatized, people resort to GoFundMe for bills, people choose between crushing debt or going to the hospital, productivity's grown but only the rich profit, corporations are valued instead of the environment, young people can't afford homes or families, manufacturers sold out employees for stockholders, students graduate with tens-of-thousands in debt, contractors are running the military, and whatever else I've forgotten. And Americans have grown into this radical system like a cooked frog.

"Moderates" simply have to look at themselves in the mirror to figure out why their policies are circling the drain. The rise of populism is their doing. The rise of Trump is their doing. The rise of Sanders is their doing.

There's nothing extreme when people push for government to return back to form, which is representing the working class.
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:58 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:32 am

:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
I think his point is that Pete is a shill. He may be a shill amongst other shills but he’s achieving master shill level status. The dude literally says nothing. It’s a lot easier to not put your policy balls on the table and sit back taking pot shots at those who do.
So Pete needs some off-the-wall talking point in order to not be a "shill"? Gotcha. :thumb:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:00 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:32 am

:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
Yes, he is a shill. Biggest one out there, with nothing to actually say.

"Moderates" have completely lost America, and deservedly so. You want to talk extreme? Moderates have created an extreme system where prisons are privatized, people resort to GoFundMe for bills, people choose between crushing debt or going to the hospital, productivity's grown but only the rich profit, corporations are valued instead of the environment, young people can't afford homes or families, manufacturers sold out employees for stockholders, students graduate with tens-of-thousands in debt, contractors are running the military, and whatever else I've forgotten. And Americans have grown into this radical system like a cooked frog.

"Moderates" simply have to look at themselves in the mirror to figure out why their policies are circling the drain. The rise of populism is their doing. The rise of Trump is their doing. The rise of Sanders is their doing.

There's nothing extreme when people push for government to return back to form, which is representing the working class.
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mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:04 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:58 am

I think his point is that Pete is a shill. He may be a shill amongst other shills but he’s achieving master shill level status. The dude literally says nothing. It’s a lot easier to not put your policy balls on the table and sit back taking pot shots at those who do.
So Pete needs some off-the-wall talking point in order to not be a "shill"? Gotcha. :thumb:
How about any talking point during one of these debates?
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:00 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:32 am

:roll: You've got a moderate person talking about the reality of things, not pandering to groups by promising reparations or medicare for all or loan forgiveness and HE'S a shill? Sanders and Warrens are shills for special interests and extremists. What's your point?
Yes, he is a shill. Biggest one out there, with nothing to actually say.

"Moderates" have completely lost America, and deservedly so. You want to talk extreme? Moderates have created an extreme system where prisons are privatized, people resort to GoFundMe for bills, people choose between crushing debt or going to the hospital, productivity's grown but only the rich profit, corporations are valued instead of the environment, young people can't afford homes or families, manufacturers sold out employees for stockholders, students graduate with tens-of-thousands in debt, contractors are running the military, and whatever else I've forgotten. And Americans have grown into this radical system like a cooked frog.

"Moderates" simply have to look at themselves in the mirror to figure out why their policies are circling the drain. The rise of populism is their doing. The rise of Trump is their doing. The rise of Sanders is their doing.

There's nothing extreme when people push for government to return back to form, which is representing the working class.
So Pete needs to pander to blacks, the working poor, and anyone that's a single issue voter in order to "say something"? Please. :tothehand:
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:21 am
mainejeff wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:04 am

So Pete needs some off-the-wall talking point in order to not be a "shill"? Gotcha. :thumb:
How about any talking point during one of these debates?
I thought the few times he was able to get a word in last night during the reenactment of Grumpy Old Men , that he mad some good points. Especially how a socialist at the top of the ticket could affect down ballot races.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:21 am So Pete needs to pander to blacks, the working poor, and anyone that's a single issue voter in order to "say something"? Please. :tothehand:
No, but maybe he should stand for what millions of Donks thought their party stood for all along.

That's what makes Bernie so threatening to the establishment.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:24 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:21 am So Pete needs to pander to blacks, the working poor, and anyone that's a single issue voter in order to "say something"? Please. :tothehand:
No, but maybe he should stand for what millions of Democrats thought their party stood for all along.

That's what makes Bernie so threatening to the establishment.
The Democrat Party stands for itself and it's corporate overlords. Same as the GOP. So what exactly is your point. The extreme left with their medicare for all and student loan forgiveness is relatively new.

This is yet another good reason for a legitimate 3rd and/or 4th party. Sanders and Trump represent the extreme flanks of their parties. :twocents:
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:23 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:21 am

How about any talking point during one of these debates?
I thought the few times he was able to get a word in last night during the reenactment of Grumpy Old Men , that he mad some good points. Especially how a socialist at the top of the ticket could affect down ballot races.
Like I said...easy when you don’t have any policies of your own.
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