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∞∞∞ wrote:Barr's opinion matters little to me. He's an asshole and conducts his department as such. Someone who believes in the unitary executive theory and his past actions tell me all I need to know about his credibility.

Like Trump, history will remember Barr as an antagonist to democracy, freedom, and justice.
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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Barr's opinion matters little to me. He's an asshole and conducts his department as such. Someone who believes in the unitary executive theory and his past actions tell me all I need to know about his credibility.

Like Trump, history will remember Barr as an antagonist to democracy, freedom, and justice.
How do you feel about Loretta Lynch?
I can deal with mistakes and bad judgement; that's human nature. Lynch certainly made them, as do most (all?) politicians and public officials. None were found to be intentional.

Barr actively and knowingly undermines our laws and justice system.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ibanez wrote: How do you feel about Loretta Lynch?
I can deal with mistakes and bad judgement; that's human nature. Lynch certainly made them, as do most (all?) politicians and public officials. None were found to be intentional.

Barr actively and knowingly undermines our laws and justice system.
How so?

Tarmac-gate was more than bad judgement. :twocents:
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∞∞∞ wrote:I can deal with mistakes and bad judgement;
You have lots of experience there.
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The only thing Barr has done wrong is tell the truth and not side with the lefts attempted lynching of Americas President.

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CID1990 wrote:Liberals complaining about Barr .....

It’s like bitching about the trailer after you’ve seen the movie

This should be in the Russia thread with the rest of the progressive rule of law hypocrisy
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SDHornet wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Liberals complaining about Barr .....

It’s like bitching about the trailer after you’ve seen the movie

This should be in the Russia thread with the rest of the progressive rule of law hypocrisy
Was wondering why this wasn't in jelly's abortion thread, because that's where this belongs. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Liberals complaining about Barr .....

It’s like bitching about the trailer after you’ve seen the movie

This should be in the Russia thread with the rest of the progressive rule of law hypocrisy
Yep. Dorkback started a redundant thread.
It's called misdirection. The Libs can no longer complain about Russia. They're left with complaining about the summary of the report on Russia. Once the feigned indignity over Barr gets old, they will move on to something else related.
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89Hen wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Yep. Dorkback started a redundant thread.
It's called misdirection. The Libs can no longer complain about Russia. They're left with complaining about the summary of the report on Russia. Once the feigned indignity over Barr gets old, they will move on to something else related.
It’s like nobody watched a second of the testimony yesterday.

Viva la tribalism!

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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: It's called misdirection. The Libs can no longer complain about Russia. They're left with complaining about the summary of the report on Russia. Once the feigned indignity over Barr gets old, they will move on to something else related.
It’s like nobody watched a second of the testimony yesterday.

Viva la tribalism!

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Let me see if I can guess how this went... Booker got bug-eyed and sounded really angry. Harris squinted and held her hands in front of her face and sounded really angry. Blumenthal wanted to be angry but came across as old and confused, Hirono read from script without looking up... am I close?
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OK, so the WaPo and Justice Dept. officials now aren't credible?
I thought the WaPo was fake news and the Justice Dept was nothing but career, deep staters. Which is it?
The WaPo is often full of shit and certainly biased toward the Dems. That is precisely why anything they report that refutes Dem or MM conventional wisdom is probably one of the rare times it isn't full of shit.

As for the DOJ, I imagine a lot of personnel changes have happened over the past couple of years. Certainly, there are career attorney in the DOJ who have been and will be anti-Trump, but I doubt they are in positions of authority now.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I thought the WaPo was fake news and the Justice Dept was nothing but career, deep staters. Which is it?
The WaPo is often full of shit and certainly biased toward the Dems. That is precisely why anything they report that refutes Dem or MM conventional wisdom is probably one of the rare times it isn't full of shit.

As for the DOJ, I imagine a lot of personnel changes have happened over the past couple of years. Certainly, there are career attorney in the DOJ who have been and will be anti-Trump, but I doubt they are in positions of authority now.
So it's full of shit until it agrees with you. :suspicious: :suspicious:

Are they the ones that told you every HUMINT in China was rounded up and executed?
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CID1990 wrote:And he is a decent guy - politics aside
That's a big "aside" considering he's a public official and leads one of the most important departments which literally deals with the freedoms of Americans. :?
CID's knowledge of Barr is just as relevant as your defense of Bernie based on a relationship with someone from his campaign staff, probably more so since it's 0 degrees of separation and you have 1.

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∞∞∞ wrote: That's a big "aside" considering he's a public official and leads one of the most important departments which literally deals with the freedoms of Americans. :?
CID's knowledge of Barr is just as relevant as your defense of Bernie based on a relationship with someone from his campaign staff, probably more so since it's 0 degrees of separation and you have 1.
I don't defend Bernie at a personal level. I semi-like his policies, although he's too conservative.

And there's nothing in his history that says, "this asshole undermines law and justice every chance he gets."
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CitadelGrad wrote:
The WaPo is often full of shit and certainly biased toward the Dems. That is precisely why anything they report that refutes Dem or MM conventional wisdom is probably one of the rare times it isn't full of shit.

As for the DOJ, I imagine a lot of personnel changes have happened over the past couple of years. Certainly, there are career attorney in the DOJ who have been and will be anti-Trump, but I doubt they are in positions of authority now.
So it's full of shit until it agrees with you. :suspicious: :suspicious:

Are they the ones that told you every HUMINT in China was rounded up and executed?
I knew you'd say that because you didn't actually read what I wrote. WaPo has a narrative. If they break from that narrative, they probably should be taken seriously.

I guess from your perspective, WaPo is credible until they report something you don't like.
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
It’s like nobody watched a second of the testimony yesterday.

Viva la tribalism!

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Let me see if I can guess how this went... Booker got bug-eyed and sounded really angry. Harris squinted and held her hands in front of her face and sounded really angry. Blumenthal wanted to be angry but came across as old and confused, Hirono read from script without looking up... am I close?
And don't forget Lindsey Graham dancing around in a pink tutu with heavy mascara around his eyes espousing the virtues of Donald J. Trump.

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mainejeff wrote:
89Hen wrote: Let me see if I can guess how this went... Booker got bug-eyed and sounded really angry. Harris squinted and held her hands in front of her face and sounded really angry. Blumenthal wanted to be angry but came across as old and confused, Hirono read from script without looking up... am I close?
And don't forget Lindsey Graham dancing around in a pink tutu with heavy mascara around his eyes espousing the virtues of Donald J. Trump.

#LindseyPeeTape

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∞∞∞ wrote:
UNI88 wrote:CID's knowledge of Barr is just as relevant as your defense of Bernie based on a relationship with someone from his campaign staff, probably more so since it's 0 degrees of separation and you have 1.
I don't defend Bernie at a personal level. I semi-like his policies, although he's too conservative.

And there's nothing in his history that says, "this asshole undermines law and justice every chance he gets."
How exactly does he undermine law and justice every chance he gets?

Besides issuing a summary of a highly disappointing report that was released in public shortly thereafter?

I don’t think we’ve actually identified these lawless acts yet.... help me out here


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CitadelGrad wrote:
Ibanez wrote: So it's full of shit until it agrees with you. :suspicious: :suspicious:

Are they the ones that told you every HUMINT in China was rounded up and executed?
I knew you'd say that because you didn't actually read what I wrote. WaPo has a narrative. If they break from that narrative, they probably should be taken seriously.

I guess from your perspective, WaPo is credible until they report something you don't like.
Nope. Like usual, you’re wrong about me. I don’t trust just one site or source. I read from the left, right and center. And formulate my own opinion.


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What goes around comes around.....remember that Trumptards. :nod:

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The bottom line that I think we can all see is that Barr was dissembling. Answering questions with questions and stalling for time when Democrats were questioning him. He was obviously trying to be obtuse and hide information. The exchange with Harris was particularly revealing in that regard.

I'm actually disappointed because I thought Barr might be a man of integrity. He obviously isn't.
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BTW, the Washington Post is credible, period. It's not in the same realm as stuff like Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, MSNBC, or Rachael Maddow. It is a credible, mainstream, media source. It has serious controls in place whereby good faith efforts are made to corraborate stories before they are published. The Washington Post is in the business of reporting the truth. That does not mean they never make mistakes. But they are a cut above anything we might be able to point to as "right" media including the Wall Street Journal.

The problem we have with media now is not "mainstream" media that might have some "left" bias. It's with "conservative" media that were established specifically to promote a conservative point of view. Things like Fox News.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
UNI88 wrote:CID's knowledge of Barr is just as relevant as your defense of Bernie based on a relationship with someone from his campaign staff, probably more so since it's 0 degrees of separation and you have 1.
I don't defend Bernie at a personal level. I semi-like his policies, although he's too conservative.

And there's nothing in his history that says, "this asshole undermines law and justice every chance he gets."
So he’s only semi full retard leftist?
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JohnStOnge wrote:The bottom line that I think we can all see is that Barr was dissembling. Answering questions with questions and stalling for time when Democrats were questioning him. He was obviously trying to be obtuse and hide information. The exchange with Harris was particularly revealing in that regard.

I'm actually disappointed because I thought Barr might be a man of integrity. He obviously isn't.
Actually he was just telling the truth and you fuckers cant deal with that since you dont deal in facts and a proven report.

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