Trump announces Brett Kavanaugh as his 2nd SCOTUS nominee.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:20 pm

Feinstein mishandled this, and I have no doubt it was intentionally held until the 11th hour.

But that's politics

Either way, this needs to be looked at by the Judiciary Committee.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:24 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:This is a **** travesty. You should be embarrassed, trip...not PROMOTING this bull.
There's a sexual assault accusation - bordering on attempted rape - which this lady first mentioned in 2012 to a counselor. And now she's putting her face and name out there, knowing conservatives will smear and harass her, because she feels so strongly about what happened that night.

2018 is a lot different than 1991; we live in the #MeToo era and there's no escaping past actions anymore. A lifetime appointment to the highest court should be investigated and vetted thoroughly (and this is ignoring all the documents the White House refuses to make available).

Also Maryland doesn't have statutes of limitations; if more evidence comes out, there is a real possibility Kavanaugh can be arrested. MD is a liberal stronghold, so they'd have no issues doing it.

My personal guess: Kavanaugh withdraws or his nomination fails.

She got pictures? A rape kit? Or is this just her word against his? Please explain to me how they’re going to “investigate” this 27 years later?

css75 · Post by **css75** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:29 pm

Of course her position as a professor at a college in Palo Alto lend credence that she is likely a liberal and voted for Clinton. This is probably as big a sham as Anita Hill was..

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Post by **SDHornet** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:53 pm

So donks want FBI to investigate, but FBI said no. So where exactly does that leave this?

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:56 pm

css75 wrote:Of course her position as a professor at a college in Palo Alto lend credence that she is likely a liberal and voted for Clinton. This is probably as big a sham as Anita Hill was..

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She can’t remember how many people were in the room, how many were in the house, etc., etc...she knows virtually NONE of the important details and her story has already changed.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:28 pm

css75 wrote:Funny how this comes out at the last minute. Looks bogus to me.

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If I had to bet I'd bet it happened. The biggest thing, to me, is whether we are going to hold adults responsible for what they did as teenagers. The guy is 53 years old now.

The idea that a teenaged guy got drunk and groped all over a teenaged girl is not really that hard to believe. But we that are guys have all been teen aged guys and you have to ask yourself if having to done something like that when one is a teenager should be disqualifying for everything for life.

Of course we do have the thing where if it DID happen it means Kavanaugh lied when he denied it. That is a separate issue in a way. Of course if he said "yeah I did it" that would be curtains for him.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:35 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
She can’t remember how many people were in the room, how many were in the house, etc., etc...she knows virtually NONE of the important details and her story has already changed.

Seriously? So you're saying that if you were at a house party decades ago you remember how many people were in the house? Or at any particular time you remember how many people were in the room you were in?

To me she is at least claiming to remember some pretty important details. For example she talks about what happened to allow here to escape the situation.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:50 am

Her story, what I know about it, has some very credible parts. When I was a cop, this was the kind of detail in a story that would have merited a more careful look.

But ultimately there are just a couple things to consider here...

This only ends in a pure he said - she said scenario. It will come down to that, and the Dems will choose to believe her and the Reps will choose to believe him. At that point, whether to continue with Kavanaugh will be a political decision for the GOP.

The other thing to consider, which JSO touched on, is does it matter what he did as a teenager? Surely there will be plenty of people who say it does, but are they a quorum?

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Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:13 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
css75 wrote:Of course her position as a professor at a college in Palo Alto lend credence that she is likely a liberal and voted for Clinton. This is probably as big a sham as Anita Hill was..

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She can’t remember how many people were in the room, how many were in the house, etc., etc...she knows virtually NONE of the important details and her story has already changed.

It's nothing more than an 11th hour Hail Mary attempt.
She was a 15 year old kid drinking beer at a party, and doesn't remember anything else about that night.
She doesn't even remember the house, how she heard about the party, how she got there, how she left, how she got home. The two people she remembers who were there, have avoided any contact by her.

She's a Donk who has donated to Donk candidates, and her lawyer is a big time ResistNut who defended Al Franken and Bill Clinton.

Time to move on, tally the votes, and swear the guy in already.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:27 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:Yeah, red states would have agriculture and mineral wealth. Much like third world countries.

And a wall to keep out labor...

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:04 am

93henfan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Congrats to “Yale College”...they finally got someone on the bench!

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Is Kavanaugh Skull and Bones?

If he ain't Tomato Fertility he ain't shit. Fuck those posers.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:09 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Nope. Greenhouses are popping up everywhere....especially in Northern climates. Meanwhile, Red States will continue to suffer the consequences of climate change.....droughts, floods, etc.

Yeah, I'm sure Los Angeles, New York, San Fran, Chicago & Philly are just TEEMING with greenhouses to feed the huddled masses.

Dude, they're right in the middle of 75% of the nation's fruit and veggies.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:22 am

CID1990 wrote:Her story, what I know about it, has some very credible parts. When I was a cop, this was the kind of detail in a story that would have merited a more careful look.

But ultimately there are just a couple things to consider here...

This only ends in a pure he said - she said scenario. It will come down to that, and the Dems will choose to believe her and the Reps will choose to believe him. At that point, whether to continue with Kavanaugh will be a political decision for the GOP.

The other thing to consider, which JSO touched on, is does it matter what he did as a teenager? Surely there will be plenty of people who say it does, but are they a quorum?

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This doesn't have anything to do with what happened at a party 30 years ago and everything to do with payback for Merrick Garland not receiving a hearing. If the Ds can stall until after the election, payback will be a bitch, especially if the Rs lose the Senate too, which they now have about an even chance of doing. Not to mention Baldy's head exploding when I'm right yet again. And well well well, as we speak it looks like none other than Jeff Flake is thinking that this needs looking into....so long Brett...we hardly knew ye..

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:11 am

houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure Los Angeles, New York, San Fran, Chicago & Philly are just TEEMING with greenhouses to feed the huddled masses.

Dude, they're right in the middle of 75% of the nation's fruit and veggies.

Who's "They", if you said LA or SF, I don't believe you, California as a state is a yes though. Most of what I see in the stores locally, comes from the upper Midwest or south of the border. California has a lot of people to feed itself.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:17 am

CID1990 wrote:Feinstein mishandled this, and I have no doubt it was intentionally held until the 11th hour.

But that's politics

Either way, this needs to be looked at by the Judiciary Committee.

I don't think that Feinstein fooled anybody given that within minutes of her speaking a list of 65 women he attended high school with vouching for him was produced by the GOP.

bluehenbillk · Post by **bluehenbillk** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:17 am

The woman will now testify in front of the committee. In the end the only way this is bad for the GOP is if they'd have to pick a new nominee AND lose control of the Senate in November.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:20 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
houndawg wrote:

Dude, they're right in the middle of 75% of the nation's fruit and veggies.
Who's "They", if you said LA or SF, I don't believe you, California as a state is a yes though. Most of what I see in the stores locally, comes from the upper Midwest or south of the border. California has a lot of people to feed itself.

Probably make more money exporting it. I see lots of produce here that is from CA. Tastes like shit.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:22 am

bluehenbillk wrote:The woman will now testify in front of the committee. In the end the only way this is bad for the GOP is if they'd have to pick a new nominee AND lose control of the Senate in November.

Both have a strong probability of happening - the fact that Cruz's seat is even in play let alone in a statistical dead heat is a strong indicator of the Blue Tsunami that approaches.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:49 am

Baldy wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
She can’t remember how many people were in the room, how many were in the house, etc., etc...she knows virtually NONE of the important details and her story has already changed.
It's nothing more than an 11th hour Hail Mary attempt.
She was a 15 year old kid drinking beer at a party, and doesn't remember anything else about that night.
She doesn't even remember the house, how she heard about the party, how she got there, how she left, how she got home. The two people she remembers who were there, have avoided any contact by her.

She's a Donk who has donated to Donk candidates, and her lawyer is a big time ResistNut who defended Al Franken and Bill Clinton.

Time to move on, tally the votes, and swear the guy in already.

OK

So what you have established is that if she was a Conk, she wouldn't have come forward...

She was at Holton Arms when the assault allegedly occurred

<BIG FUVCKING EDIT>

You know what? My wife went to Holton

So I find this woman credible

My logic is no goofier than you or any other liberal's

BTW

She has some nerve describing Kavanaugh and his buddies as being at some elite boys school when she was at Holton... and thats all I have to say about that

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:14 am

American Politics today: The worlds largest eye roll...
Who fucking cares

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:24 am

houndawg wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:The woman will now testify in front of the committee. In the end the only way this is bad for the GOP is if they'd have to pick a new nominee AND lose control of the Senate in November.
Both have a strong probability of happening - the fact that Boobs's seat is even in play let alone in a statistical dead heat is a strong indicator of the Blue Tsunami that approaches.

There's more of a chance of the Senate going more strongly in the GOP's direction than it is the GOP losing the Senate. The GOP will lose the House, I think there's little doubt about that, but if this nomination drags over into the general election that could even end up in doubt because now you'd have a reason for GOP voters to come out en masse. But regardless, the very likeliehood is that the House goes narrowly to the Dems and the GOP holds the same majority, or more, in the Senate.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:41 am

This thing is going to get ugly. Unless there are any other accusers, you have the word of a respected professor, albeit one who has contributed financially to Democratic candidates and causes, vaguely remembering an event that happened maybe 36 years ago (she's not sure of the year, so it's more details that are vague other than who was in the house) when she was drinking and he was drinking, when they were minors, and something that she only started talking about when he was on a short list of GOP SCOTUS nominees. And the accused is saying he didn't do it. There's no good outcome in this - either he did it and probably should be removed from consideration, or he didn't do it and he's being falsely accused, possibly for political gain. And on top of it, rather than happening in a court of law, we're going to have the spectacle of Senators grilling both her and him in public hearings that will be an absolute circus, as politics have gotten to be. This already is going to be Anita Hill part 2, although with even less evidence. Our politics continues to be an absolute disaster, and it's only getting worse.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:48 am

JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
She can’t remember how many people were in the room, how many were in the house, etc., etc...she knows virtually NONE of the important details and her story has already changed.
Seriously? So you're saying that if you were at a house party decades ago you remember how many people were in the house? Or at any particular time you remember how many people were in the room you were in?

To me she is at least claiming to remember some pretty important details. For example she talks about what happened to allow here to escape the situation.

Wonder if she remembers THIS detail:

Martha G. Kavanaugh, the mother of Brett Kavanaugh was a Maryland district judge in 1996. In an amazing coincidence, Martha Kavanaugh was the judge in a foreclosure case in which Christine Blasey-Ford’s parents were the defendants. Now it all becomes clear. Blasey-Ford is going after Brett Kavanaugh, not because of what he did in high school. Instead, Christine Blasey-Ford is going after Brett Kavanaugh out of spite and revenge for a case rulled on by Brett Kavanaugh mother. Martha Kavanaugh, Brett’s mother was Montgomery County Circuit Court judge from 1993 until she retired in 2001. During a 1996 foreclosure case, Martha Kavanaugh ruled against the parents of Christine Blasey-Ford in a foreclosure case.
The foreclosure case against Paula K. Blasey and Ralph G. Blasey was opened on August 8, 1996. The case number is 156006V.

Fake news? Or true? Because, if true.....wow.

css75 · Post by **css75** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:09 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Seriously? So you're saying that if you were at a house party decades ago you remember how many people were in the house? Or at any particular time you remember how many people were in the room you were in?

To me she is at least claiming to remember some pretty important details. For example she talks about what happened to allow here to escape the situation.
Wonder if she remembers THIS detail:

Martha G. Kavanaugh, the mother of Brett Kavanaugh was a Maryland district judge in 1996. In an amazing coincidence, Martha Kavanaugh was the judge in a foreclosure case in which Christine Blasey-Ford’s parents were the defendants. Now it all becomes clear. Blasey-Ford is going after Brett Kavanaugh, not because of what he did in high school. Instead, Christine Blasey-Ford is going after Brett Kavanaugh out of spite and revenge for a case rulled on by Brett Kavanaugh mother. Martha Kavanaugh, Brett’s mother was Montgomery County Circuit Court judge from 1993 until she retired in 2001. During a 1996 foreclosure case, Martha Kavanaugh ruled against the parents of Christine Blasey-Ford in a foreclosure case.
The foreclosure case against Paula K. Blasey and Ralph G. Blasey was opened on August 8, 1996. The case number is 156006V.
Fake news? Or true? Because, if true.....wow.

Here we go. She also has participated in various women’s marches and proudly wore a pussy hat.
This is just a last ditch effort to stall things, the GOP needs to grow a pair and end this farce and vote.

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Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:12 am

CID1990 wrote:
Baldy wrote: It's nothing more than an 11th hour Hail Mary attempt.
She was a 15 year old kid drinking beer at a party, and doesn't remember anything else about that night.
She doesn't even remember the house, how she heard about the party, how she got there, how she left, how she got home. The two people she remembers who were there, have avoided any contact by her.

She's a Donk who has donated to Donk candidates, and her lawyer is a big time ResistNut who defended Al Franken and Bill Clinton.

Time to move on, tally the votes, and swear the guy in already.
OK

So what you have established is that if she was a Conk, she wouldn't have come forward...

She was at Holton Arms when the assault allegedly occurred

<BIG FUVCKING EDIT>

You know what? My wife went to Holton

So I find this woman credible

My logic is no goofier than you or any other liberal's

BTW

She has some nerve describing Kavanaugh and his buddies as being at some elite boys school when she was at Holton... and thats all I have to say about that

What I established is that she was a 15 year old kid drinking at a party 37 years (or so) ago (she can't even remember the year). She might be a credible person, but there is absolutely no evidence and nobody can corroborate her claims. From what I remember, nobody can or will even confirm there was a party that night.

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